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Michael Jackson's attitude towards women in his music

Wow, what a thread! Was the OP an early test person for chatgpt, which had not yet been released at the time this thread was started, or how else can so much content be generated without human intelligence?

Just take a look at the "mj and ladies" picture thread please.

Or at his White House drawing after his 1984 visit:
"Michael stayed over night at the White House in President Lincoln's bedroom, which inspired him to create his Lincoln portraits and his work of art titled “White House Doors”. In “White House Doors” Michael included his version of the quote below by President Adams, to which Michael added two of his own words ...
"I pray heaven to bestow the best of blessings on this house, and all that shall hereafter inhabit it may none but honest and wise men [or women] ever rule under this roof."
- President John Adams, November 1800
- Amendment by Michael Joseph Jackson, January 20, 1990
... He altered the quote by adding the words “or women” after “wise men”, in a clear advocacy of a woman president in the future. Michael had this quote carved in marble and planned to personally present it to the President on a future Presidents Day, to be placed above the front entrance to the White House, as depicted in his master work of art, “White House Doors”."

JacksonStrongAlliance.com - fine art created by Michael Jackson

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Yes, I also found the conversation with Schmuley about women quite disrespectful. It made me angry actually. But its clearly S who said the negative things about women and just promoted MJ to agree. MJ follows along the conversation, often just replying hm-hm. So one can't really conclude anything from that.
(And no, it was not a private conversation but intended for publication)
 
Michael was a fan of old Hollywood musicals/ crime movies - and the femme fatale was a common character in those films. He created the idea that using classic Hollywood cliches like the “bad woman” would be a great hook in his music. It was artistic expression, not necessarily his personal views towards women.
 
MJ didn't exactly have a healthy upbringing and was over-exposed to sex early on. I'm sure he talked about being in the same room while his brothers were having sex. I think that some of his views on women would've been heavily influenced by what he saw growing up in an adult world throughout his youth.

Also, he was a rich man for almost his entire life. And there are opportunistic women that actively seek rich men (just as there are opportunistic men in other spheres). He was most likely over-exposed to that too throughout his life.

But MJ had many positive love songs, RTT is a good example of a song and a video. I thought ITC and YANA videos were good too. Even in a video such as WII, with it's most explicit reference to prostitution, the female lead is made to look like a sad victim by the end who cannot escape the cycle of exploitation/abuse.
 
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jasmine.uddin said:
MJ didn't exactly have a healthy upbringing and was over-exposed to sex early on. I'm sure he talked about being in the same room while his brothers were having sex. I think that some of his views on women would've been heavily influenced by what he saw growing up in an adult world throughout his youth.

Also, he was a rich man for almost his entire life. And there are opportunistic women that actively seek rich men (just as there are opportunistic men in other spheres). He was most likely over-exposed to that too throughout his life.

But MJ had many positive love songs, RTT is a good example of a song and a video. I thought ITC and YANA videos were good too. Even in a video such as WII, with it's most explicit reference to prostitution, the female lead is made to look like a sad victim by the end who cannot escape the cycle of exploitation/abuse.
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I’ve never seen Michael be misogynist to any woman. He was nice to Prudence Solomon at her wedding, he was helpful to female fans who were being crushed by mobs of people, he took care of his mother, he was a gentleman with Debbie Rowe. There are records of him teasing his sisters Janet and LaToya but that’s just sibling stuff, not uncommon in families.
 
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I’ve never seen Michael be misogynist to any woman. He was nice to Prudence Solomon at her wedding, he was helpful to female fans who were being crushed by mobs of people, he took care of his mother, he was a gentleman with Debbie Rowe. There are records of him teasing his sisters Janet and LaToya but that’s just sibling stuff, not uncommon in families.
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I fully agree, but I think the thread was specifically about MJs representation of women within his music, and as you pointed out, there is an undeniable 'femme fatale' element to some of his music, or atleast a sense that a certain type of woman can lead to the serious ruin of a man (BJ, BOTDF, Dangerous, DD- all great songs though). I just wondered whether a childhood and lifetime to being overexposed to sexuality may have influenced this.
 
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