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It did mention that it was a Jason Malachi song, but I think it was included in that section because some people still believed it was an MJ song.
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It did mention that it was a Jason Malachi song, but I think it was included in that section because some people still believed it was an MJ song.
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I know, my post was aimed at someone else.
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First of all: OMG stellajackson, how did you even SEE that? you're kind of my hero.
second of all: i'm not surprised at all. It's like they completely turn a blind eye to this controversy. we all think "they'd NEVER be stupid enough to keep on with the cascio tracks"--but they've already proven that, yes, they ARE that stupid. or they just don't care. i wouldn't be ok with hearing even a monster instrumental at the cirque show. I do not believe that song is not his, in any way, shape, or form.
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love is magical
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Seriously, out of all the songs in Michael's catalog, they would include Monster?
If they want a song with monster theme, pick Threatened.
If they want a song with monster theme, pick Threatened.
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what i dont get - whos says, that these leaked tracks are really official tracks? i mean, i could label any song "MJ" (with a mike like voice) and leak it....better with a songname, that is known only by name and never heard before..
....so whos says, there are real (despite the voice controversy)
....so whos says, there are real (despite the voice controversy)
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Well basically because some of the fans heard the song before and posted lyrics back then or confirmed that the songs are real.
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Cascios say so and unfortunately Sony and the Estate agrees. JAB ME Music (Cascio's publishing company) keeps removing them so yeah these are the cascio songs supposedly performed by Michael Jackson, no sense pretending they are not. Though I agree there's a difference between the released songs and the leaked ones. The three album tracks have officialy tainted MJ's discography, the rest are just candidates to the same in the future.
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love is magical
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Interesting. Why would he delete the tweet? There is nothing wrong with that. I wholeheartedly agree with him that we should not judge without knowing the complete story and hearing both sides; although it's easier said than done. What he said doesn't just apply to the Cascio tracks, but also to many aspects related to Michael and bascially everything around us.
No judging without knowing is also Michael's message. I know I haven't followed it all the time. But, I do try very hard to follow it. This world will truely be less harsh and more peaceful if people truly listen to Michael and look up to him as role model.
I don't know why he deleted it. When I woke up that was the first tweet of his that I saw. I looked to his @ posts people including Kapital 
was sending him messages about Cascio and his association with betrayers and calling him a betrayer as well. Perhaps he was offended and he didn't want to be judged based on a video.
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btw this was posted on Frank Cascio's "My friend Michael" facebook group but it wasn't posted by Frank so I don't know if he really said it or not.
"My Friend Michael"
I Shall Buy Frank Cascio's Book 'My Friend Michael'
'No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...' Frank Cascio
was sending him messages about Cascio and his association with betrayers and calling him a betrayer as well. Perhaps he was offended and he didn't want to be judged based on a video. -------------
btw this was posted on Frank Cascio's "My friend Michael" facebook group but it wasn't posted by Frank so I don't know if he really said it or not.
"My Friend Michael"
I Shall Buy Frank Cascio's Book 'My Friend Michael'
'No, Sadly to say its Not Sony... Breakng New's is Great. IT Is 100% Michael Voice., He recorded it in my home. Please the fans should be enjoying this special moment. it is special and there are people out there trying to take that away from you and the world... "Jealousy" Please embrace this song as Michael was very proud of it...' Frank Cascio
He also deleted the DM he sent me. Went like:
"Glad you liked the dance
But i should be able to dance where i want to without getting ignorant comments... people should not comment or judge.."It didn't really make any sense. I can comment whatever I want, and yes, I judge The Cascios. Because they all started this mess.
@pentum
if for a moment you think that you might be wrong about your thoughts about Cascio's and the songs, you can see that such comments will be ignorant.
also from the messages to Omer that I saw , this is going too far imo. because not only people are acting like their opinions about Cascio songs are facts and they have already hanged Cascio's and called them everything under the sun but they take it to a step further and now accuse and judge people who happen to not believe their way of thinking - example Obee. People set the standards (such as these songs are absolutely fake and Cascio's should be rejected) and then see someone not acting the way they demand they automatically label them as enemy or betrayer.
yes Latoya yesterday confirmed it as Paris's account.
if for a moment you think that you might be wrong about your thoughts about Cascio's and the songs, you can see that such comments will be ignorant.
also from the messages to Omer that I saw , this is going too far imo. because not only people are acting like their opinions about Cascio songs are facts and they have already hanged Cascio's and called them everything under the sun but they take it to a step further and now accuse and judge people who happen to not believe their way of thinking - example Obee. People set the standards (such as these songs are absolutely fake and Cascio's should be rejected) and then see someone not acting the way they demand they automatically label them as enemy or betrayer.
yes Latoya yesterday confirmed it as Paris's account.
On a side note.
Sony's London warehouse "burnt last night".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/09/us-sony-fire-uk-idUSTRE7780P020110809
Sony's London warehouse "burnt last night".
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/09/us-sony-fire-uk-idUSTRE7780P020110809
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I know it's kind of off topic, but I found the notes in that video about the Bubbles section to be intriguing. Also I wish I could make out the rest of the song names. Anyone notice the Apple logo next to the J5 pictures? Very interesting.
@ivy, there is no point in thinking I might be wrong, because I'm not. Simple as that, that's how I am in this case.
Omer should know about all of this and ask questions. Demand real proof. He must know about the fan base split. Instead, he's hanging out with him, dancing in the studio and eating dinner.
Can you imagine if you were Omer? Just hanging out with Eddie and just ignore this problem? I can't.
Omer should know about all of this and ask questions. Demand real proof. He must know about the fan base split. Instead, he's hanging out with him, dancing in the studio and eating dinner.
Can you imagine if you were Omer? Just hanging out with Eddie and just ignore this problem? I can't.
I'm sorry to say that this is highly ignorant. Because everyone in every instance can be wrong. I gave the DNA test as example before it comes with 99.997% correct rate and still leaves the door open for error. this "I cannot be wrong" or "It's a indisputable fact" etc is as ignorant as it can get and basically not being realistic.
and what makes you think that he didn't ask questions and proof? remember Teddy mentioning going to the Cascio house and seeing handwritten lyrics, messages from Michael to Eddie about the songs etc? Perhaps Omer saw that as well and came to the conclusion that the songs are likely to be authentic and that's why he said "no judging without knowing", perhaps as a person close to Michael he knew the dynamics in Michael's family and between MJ's family and Cascio's, perhaps like Frank Dileo said Omer had prior knowledge of Michael recording with Cascio's. ever consider he might know MORE than you do?
love is magical
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I have to disagree. I don't think we should be too serious about that tweet from Paris. We have to remember when the songs were recorded, she's a child. She may not have any knowledge of what her dad did in the studio. How many children know exactly what their parents do at work?
She's a teenager now. She heard the song and may not like the autotuning. Many people think Hollywood Tonight is fake. Different people just hear different things. She may not like what she heard. Or, may be she's just as confused as we.
love is magical
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I have to disagree. I don't think we should be too serious about that tweet from Paris. We have to remember when the songs were recorded, she's a child. She may not have any knowledge of what her dad did in the studio. How many children know exactly what their parents do at work?
She's a teenager now. She heard the song and may not like the autotuning. Many people think Hollywood Tonight is fake. Different people just hear different things. She may not like what she heard. Or, may be she's just as confused as we.
I wrote this before I'll write it again. The significance of that tweet is that it shows us that she's not a credible source to determine authenticity of these songs. If she was wrong once (hollywood tonight), she can be wrong again.
and it's okay like mentioned before she is a kid that might not have any information to start with. She will not bring any resolution /end to this debate but that tweet definitely hurts the doubters "mj's kids don't believe it's him" argument because now the counterargument "mj's kids don't know what they are talking about, they think HT is fake" is introduced.
Like I said as far as the Cascio songs go her saying they are fake or even they are real won't mean a thing as she's factually wrong about HT and it makes her not credible in this debate.
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When Frank Dileo said that he had knowledge of Michael recording in that studio, he was telling the truth. It's just that what Michael recorded wasn't what these 12 songs represent - it was the Thriller 25 stuff. Also, if Eddie had handwritten notes from Michael specifically pertaining to these songs, don't you think he might have shown them on Oprah, as opposed to a picture of a lonely microphone or submitted them for the album booklet like the other songs? Or even shown them on facebook etc? That would put a lot of doubt to rest and help to prove their story. I wouldn't mind wagering that those notes do not exist. Teddy Riley has already been shown to be totally unreliable. "Know one can do a scream like that." Yes Teddy, that's because they are the screams pasted from old records of Michael's. "Michael is alive. I know the truth." Yes Teddy, whatever you say.
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What makes me think that is because he hasn't even mentioned it. If you were Omer and asked for proof, you got proof, would you then just forget about it? Not write on Twitter about it or share it with the fans? I would not just forget about it and "come to a conclusion".
I don't care. You will see in the end, that the doubters were always right. Please remember.
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