Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

[Boggy]

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Guys, I am still wondering WHY Janet and Randy were chasing the kids with Camera.

What was the purpose ?

I don't get it.

 

[prismsagainst5live]

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To smear the kids or perhaps trent was in the background and they were attempting to show him being aggressive

 

[Vici]

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Anyway that's my take on it, but i'm still at a complete loss at how someone on a minibreak who has had a half hour interview with the local police to ascertain her safety due to concerns for her whereabouts from back home, not feel that she should ring back home to quell any concerns for the 3 young children she's responsible for. I'm sure the judge will be asking those questions at the hearing whenever it is. Presumably he's not going to rule on the guardianship issue until he has done his interviewing of ppb.

I hear you and its really weird but her own cubs must have told her something. I can't see any other reason and u would assume she would call when the police left. Janets reply in that text is very telling though so the question is what they told Katherine so she wouldnt call? So irresponsible

 

[prismsagainst5live]

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Still no official word from janets camp???

 

[Bubs]

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Ever since Michael died I have wondered how the whole cousin dynamic would play out in the future. That is PPB owning a billion dollar empire and the rest of the cousins not. I had hoped none of it would be a problem until they were adults. Now I don't know.

I don't know if you saw their first interview with Oprah? To me it was very telling, cousins are as much of hangers on than anyone one in Michael's life. I think the situation between PPB is the same as MJ and his siblings. Eventually, if not already, PPB would be made obligated to promote/support (some of that already happened) their projects and other things what ever they might come up with.

 

[Bubs]

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However, I have always maintained that there is a reason why Michael fled the country and did not keep in contact with the Jacksons, once he was acquitted. Michael was a man who felt a deep longing for family, belonging and unconditional love. And if he was receiving that FROM HIS OWN FAMILY, he would not have distanced himself from them.

Not just MJ words support this but his actions too.
We haven't heard or seen MJ to stay with brothers/any family member months at the time, like he did with Cascios and other families?
Every time he needed a place to stay for longer period, he made sure it was NOT any of his "blood" family place.

 

[AngieJ]

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Still no official word from janets camp???

It's kinda surprising that she hasn't, but then it's sorta not that surprising. What can she really say?

Some of her fans seem to think she's going to release the video she recorded of Paris and show what really happened.

Just seeing alot of desperate predictions from her fans.

 

[Boggy]

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Janet's fan are preparing a tweethon lol

 

[Sunwalker7]

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The damage is done. From what i'm seeing most of the public is sickened by this story. They think what happened to these kids was just terrible and they are just baffled by Janet's involvement and they just think Katherine is weak. And I see no one wanting Katherine to get custody of these kids again. And it's so bad, most folks seem to think Janet won't ever recover from it. They think the whole "She's the normal one" image is dead. And even though you have those who stupidly are blaming the kids, most folks are giving the kids mad props for exposing this scheme. Why do you think Janet fans are so upset? The card they've used for so long is gone.

And there aren't too many people that's not going to want to puke when they read about the kids being at the concert last night.

I'm glad to hear that. Based on the things I've read on the internet it seemed to me that people didn't take this very seriously, but I could have gotten the wrong impression. It's great if even non-fans realise what a nightmare this situation is, and see that there was a very good reason why Michael wasn't close to his family. I've seen some really horrible comments about the kids, like the only problem here is that they're tweeting about private family matters, but I hope the people who think that are a very tiny minority.

 

[pug]

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"Despite a public family showdown, Katherine Jackson and Michael Jackson's three kids all showed up at the Jackson Brothers' "Unity Tour" ... even though one of the members, Jermaine Jackson, is actively trying to overthrow the MJ estate.

TMZ obtained footage of Katherine arriving at the concert in Saratoga last night (to a small round of applause from the crowd) where Marlon, Tito, Jackie and Jermaine are continuing their tour, despite the current family rift.
Katherine wasn't there alone ... Prince, Paris and Blanket tagged along with their grams -- who just last week was reported missing after spending a week in Arizona with other members of the Jackson clan.

During the concert, Jermaine -- who is on opposite sides of the feud than his band mate brothers -- played a whole set by himself ... singing several songs as a solo act.

We're told MJ's kids, who were watching from the crowd, didn't appear to be having that much fun. "

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/28/katherine-jackson-unity-concert-video/

:scratch:

You know Grandma layed on a guilt trip and made them go.

 

[Bubs]

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Could anybody post the link of the book, please!? I can't find it, thank you!

I thought Janet could recover after the superbowl incident, after all she's done recently, she's lost lots and lots of fans forever! :no:

Here is the link to Margaret M, Jermaine's ex book, seriously good book.
http://jetzi-mjvideo.com/books-jetzi-04/jfv/jfv0a.html

Janet was nearly out and clear of that infamous accident,but then she stupidly decided to participate to this plan, she can say goodbye to her career. The only thing that is keeping Janet alive, it her fans.

 

[pug]

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Debbie Rowe, mother of Michael Jackson's eldest kids concerned about their guardianship

Debbie Rowe has been following developments in the family's public battle over beloved matriarch Katherine Jackson and is hoping to get more information on a proposal to add Michael's nephew TJ Jackson, 34, as a permanent co-guardian ahead of a court hearing next week, a well-placed source told the Daily News Friday.

By Nancy Dillon / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, July 28, 2012, 12:21 AM


Debbie Rowe, Michael Jackson's ex-wife and mother of his two eldest kids, has concerns about a plan to permanently change their guardianship.


"As long as Katherine is still actively involved (with the kids), there shouldn't be a problem. But they never agreed to let TJ be a decision maker. (Rowe) knows TJ from when he was little. She knows he's close to the kids. But she might ask for more custodial responsibility if he's making decisions she doesn't agree with," the Rowe source said Friday.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...-guardianship-article-1.1123785#ixzz21wRNDR4B

I doubt she is a option the children would consider.

 

[AngieJ]

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I'm glad to hear that. Based on the things I've read on the internet it seemed to me that people didn't take this very seriously, but I could have gotten the wrong impression. It's great if even non-fans realise what a nightmare this situation is, and see that there was a very good reason why Michael wasn't close to his family. I've seen some really horrible comments about the kids, like the only problem here is that they're tweeting about private family matters, but I hope the people who think that are a very tiny minority.

Yeah, seeing the negativity towards them on the forums and twitter made me feel so much better too. It's like people now understand MJ so much more now after seeing his family's actions this week. Of course you still have these loud Janet and Jackson family defenders, but overall most folks are disgusted. Same thing with Gladys Knight's comments. Janet and Jackson family defenders applaud what she said while the public are saying that this isn't the 1960's anymore and abuse towards a child is wrong and that Gladys needs to mind her own business.

 

[AngieJ]

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Janet was nearly out and clear of that infamous accident,but then she stupidly decided to participate to this plan, she can say goodbye to her career. The only thing that is keeping Janet alive, it her fans.

To be honest this is the most press Janet has received since the Super Bowl. So I would say her career was already mostly dead within the mainstream crowd.

I think she'll always just be around as this icon, like a Diana Ross sorta of thing but the days of her being seen as the sane Jackson is dead dead dead.

This whole thing has just been so embarrassing to her. With the others you expect this from them. But not her. Last night the guy on CNN said even Janet's friends don't get it.

 

[Ingelief]

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The damage is done. From what i'm seeing most of the public is sickened by this story. They think what happened to these kids was just terrible and they are just baffled by Janet's involvement and they just think Katherine is weak. And I see no one wanting Katherine to get custody of these kids again. And it's so bad, most folks seem to think Janet won't ever recover from it. They think the whole "She's the normal one" image is dead. And even though you have those who stupidly are blaming the kids, most folks are giving the kids mad props for exposing this scheme. Why do you think Janet fans are so upset? The card they've used for so long is gone.

And there aren't too many people that's not going to want to puke when they read about the kids being at the concert last night.

being at a concert sorry what did i miss??????????????????

 

[magiktori]

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Janet's fan are preparing a tweethon lol

im a janet fan im not gonna lie but the best thing janet fans can do is let this die down

 

[Petrarose]

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Yes the judge seems intereseted in the well being of the kids, but I don't think they kids are going to mention everything they know.

They love Katherine and I don't think they'll will say anything that will jeopardize her guardianship. The kids are smart, they will know what to say & what to keep quite.

That is what I think too. The kids love Katherine and when the person questions them, they most likely will be careful to say things that would not cause the judge to question Katherine's guardianship. That is why I was saying before that I hope the judge does not lead by emotions, but looks carefully at all the evidence and sees whether this situation will keep the children emotionally and physically secure.

If any of you have friends who work with Child Protective Services, they will tell you that many times they question the children about some abuse and you could see the children keeping back certain things. Sometimes when they make their follow up visits, the kids will make some unguarded remark and the the social worker would find out more. How about when the parent beats the child excessively and when they remove the child, the child is screaming for the parent. So, Michael's kids could go either way. They could say exactly how all these dramas played out, what was involved, and how it affected them, or they could keep much information to themselves, so that they do not hurt grandma's feelings because they love her.

We have to remember than when the kids lost their first love, who was daddy, the next person who came along during that time to give them affection was Katerine. We all remember how Paris was sitting right next to Katherine at the memorial and was clinging to her arm. In that short space of time, Paris became very attached to Katherine.

 

[Ingelief]

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why is nobody answering my post??? I wrote to pages ago and a few before that. I dont get the situation can please somebody explain it to me????

Why if there were phones would katherine not call? Why if they are mad at the estate would they keep katherine away from home, what point is that????

Why would tj ask for quardian if it goes wrong 1 week? it suggest that its going on much longer you dont file for custedy easy and in just 1 week of madness.?

Im sorry please help me, i really dont get it, maybe i it get lost in translation in dutch news it really not understandable..

please help

 

[walkingonthemoon]

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^^ Nobody is answering because nobody else can figure this out either.

 

[The Brown Gangsta]

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Janet's fan are preparing a tweethon lol

lol looks like there will also be a twitterthon in support of Michael's children at the same time! This should be interesting.

Michaels Justice ?@ACMC_
Love Twitterthon for Prince , Paris and Blanket TONIGHT at 7pmEST

 

[Petrarose]

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Well Janet needs all the love she can get right now, so I guess a tweet-a-ton will cheer her up. Maybe lack of love made her do this thing, because I do not know how anyone with a lot of love in their heart, could try to emotionally harm some children in order to deprive them from the hard earned money their father worked for. Further, she knows how much Michael suffered due to lies and greed, and his children were the only ones that gave him unconditional love. So why do this. Give her some love I say.

Of course the kids did not look happy at the show because they did not want to be there. That is the type of guardian Katherine is--one who does not consider the feelings of her wards when it comes to her own kids. She just came home and is doing the same thing again!!!!

Ingelief how many pages have you read? What page did you begin on? Maybe if you read some more pages you might understand more. See if that helps.

Oh Oh if there is a tweet-a-ton for Michael kids too, we all know who is going to win that competition.

 

[Victory22]

well the judge seems to think about the kids and their is this indepedent probe so we will see what the judge thinks about all this unity crap

I don’t think the judge is going to be impressed or blinded by all the Katherine worship and sainthood she is famous for. She has been untouchable up until now but I’m not sure how much weight it will hold in a court of law. Maybe she was aware of what her cubs were plotting and maybe she wasn’t. Her gullibility is irrelevant to me. All I want is protection, stability and commitment to doing what’s in the best interest of PP&B. I hope the judge will see the situation the same way and hold her to the same standards of any other guardian who abandons her responsibility.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

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I guess the kids going to the show was a last min decision as i read that she had had posted on twitter or another site to spencer malnik cause he said to her that he thought they were gonna hang out on that day. she replied by saying she had a "family thing" on and would be back Sunday

id be surprised if the judge didnt want to talk to kj. he should have alot of questions for her

 

[oceanborn]

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^^Ingelief: I agree with Petrarose. The day before yesterday I read the whole thread, which was only 164 pages then. It helped a lot, but I wouldn't recommend it because but it took me whole the day. :lol:

But maybe couple of pages would help too.

 

[Ingelief]

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hehe thx guys but im not going to read 214 pages then ill be busy a week. But i have read all the news and i still dont get it. can you give me your ideas on this?:

Why if there were phones would katherine not call? Why if they are mad at the estate would they keep katherine away from home, what point is that????

Why would tj ask for quardian if it goes wrong 1 week? it suggest that its going on much longer you dont file for custedy easy and in just 1 week of madness.?

In the news there is no answer to be found. I hope that you will give your point of view on the points above. because there no writing about what katherine abducting has to do with the estate.
also there is not in the news why tj would file custody in only 1 week of trouble.

please?

@walking on the moon, i think if we all put our heads together we can know more than tmz like would know

I have read like 20 pages, but there is no info there about it

 

[Sue]

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Ingelief, you can't make sense of it, because there IS no sense in it. I keep on (and on and on) about Katherine Jackson's attorney saying this has been planned for 3 years (Prince has since said the same thing) and asking for other MJ fans thoughts about this, but I get no reply because nobody knows. It just seems completely insane.

 

[tricia70]

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Well Janet needs all the love she can get right now, so I guess a tweet-a-ton will cheer her up. Maybe lack of love made her do this thing, because I do not know how anyone with a lot of love in their heart, could try to emotionally harm some children in order to deprive them from the hard earned money their father worked for. Further, she knows how much Michael suffered due to lies and greed, and his children were the only ones that gave him unconditional love. So why do this. Give her some love I say.

Of course the kids did not look happy at the show because they did not want to be there. That is the type of guardian Katherine is--one who does not consider the feelings of her wards when it comes to her own kids. She just came home and is doing the same thing again!!!!

Ingelief how many pages have you read? What page did you begin on? Maybe if you read some more pages you might understand more. See if that helps.

Oh Oh if there is a tweet-a-ton for Michael kids too, we all know who is going to win that competition.

Sorry, Petrarose but I have no love for Janet. Not the way she threw Michael under bus telling the media he is a "drug addict" and now with her involvement in this craziness. She gets nothing from me!! She is as stupid and derange as her other siblings. Good riddance I say.

 

[oceanborn]

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Why if there were phones would katherine not call? Why if they are mad at the estate would they keep katherine away from home, what point is that????

Why would tj ask for quardian if it goes wrong 1 week? it suggest that its going on much longer you dont file for custedy easy and in just 1 week of madness.?

/QUOTE]

I keep on wondering about the phone thing too. All I can think of is that some of the Jacksons took her phone away and lied to her that it's ok, that they will be keeping contact with the children for Katherine (which they did not).

For the guardian issue, I guess TJ thought that K isn't a reliable guardian for the kids anymore - for me, abandoning them for a week seem a bad thing to do as well. Maybe he thought somebody has to take the guardianship and therefore he intended to take it for good, not for a one week only.

That's all I can think of now. All this mess is just..such a mess.

 

[Boggy]

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Well Janet needs all the love she can get right now, so I guess a tweet-a-ton will cheer her up. Maybe lack of love made her do this thing, because I do not know how anyone with a lot of love in their heart, could try to emotionally harm some children in order to deprive them from the hard earned money their father worked for. Further, she knows how much Michael suffered due to lies and greed, and his children were the only ones that gave him unconditional love. So why do this. Give her some love I say.

Of course the kids did not look happy at the show because they did not want to be there. That is the type of guardian Katherine is--one who does not consider the feelings of her wards when it comes to her own kids. She just came home and is doing the same thing again!!!!

Ingelief how many pages have you read? What page did you begin on? Maybe if you read some more pages you might understand more. See if that helps.

Oh Oh if there is a tweet-a-ton for Michael kids too, we all know who is going to win that competition.

Jan Fan well organized the tweethon http://twitpic.com/actj27



I believe the tweethon for the kids has not been organized a couple of days enough before the starting in order to let the community organize themselves

 

[Ingelief]

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Ingelief, you can't make sense of it, because there IS no sense in it. I keep on (and on and on) about Katherine Jackson's attorney saying this has been planned for 3 years (Prince has since said the same thing) and asking for other MJ fans thoughts about this, but I get no reply because nobody knows. It just seems completely insane.

Ok thx for replying.