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JamesCMJJ said:
...you need more than a copyright registration that documents the existence of the song to believe that it's a real song?
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Literally yes and this is NOT a copyright registration we're talking about. BMI/ASCAP registrations lack important context behind songs. Just because he is listed as a writer or even a performer does not mean it is a Michael Jackson song. Literally anyone could sample one of his songs and he'd be listed as a performer or even just totally make stuff up like Eddie Cascio and James Porte, all of their songs are registered on BMI lmfao. I'm not saying the song doesn't exist I'm just saying I have yet to see any actual concrete evidence that song exists and if there is any out there it wouldn't be a BMI registration.
 
JamesCMJJ said:
Most of the songs from the 1993 deposition were registered under MIJAC in '84 with a few exceptions. And alot of those track originated in the 1970s
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I think all songs that were name checked in 1993 did exist in some form prior to the day of filed suit against MJ (November 17, 1987).

www.latimes.com

POP/ROCK - Nov. 19, 1987

Three songwriters who claim their material was misappropriated for the USA for Africa theme "We Are The World" and other songs filed suit Tuesday in Los Angeles against Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie, accusing them of copyright infringement.
www.latimes.com www.latimes.com
 
SmoothMel7 said:
Yes, I asked, and he doesn't know.



Where did you find the Mijac reference for this song?



I did a lot of research on "Be Me 4 A Day." I'm not sure it was recorded as a song. I concluded it was from the Invincible era. It can't be from the Bad era.
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Yeah i looked into BM4AD as well and all I can find is one single random obscure asf musician who has virtually no credits or identity that I can find saying it exists and has refused to elaborate on details. I genuinely don't believe 100% the song exists because the sources are dubious af.
 
threepea11 said:
I noticed a pattern on the tracker. Just about ever song that has a medal, trophy, or trash can next to them, were "leaked" by Motif (including the memes). Some of them that have medals haven't been meme'd though, such as Seven Digits, Crack Kills, Janet and MJ Duet, Homeless Bound, BOTDF demo with Sunset Driver lyrics, GOAL 2009, among others. I could just be over thinking this, but I just wanted to point out the pattern I noticed
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Homeless Bound has a medal? lmfaooo that song is not good.
 
He prolly is just giving this info to then make troll mixes of the songs lmao
(If dark lady gets a troll mix it would be still a cool leak due to us not getting any HQ vocal snippets of that song)
 
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threepea11 said:
Something I really would love to know and hear are the versions of APWNN that Michael worked on after Invincible, as I honestly can't imagine what he thought needed to be added to the song
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the one released is the 2008 mix, not the original demo which is close to 10min, compared to the 2003-4 mix, drums are the most notable difference
 
Tyler446 said:
He prolly is just giving this info to then make troll mixes of the songs lmao
(If dark lady gets a troll mix it would be still a cool leak due to us not getting any HQ vocal snippets of that song)
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Assuming all of the info given here is legit this is such a cool leak, but this opens up more questions than it actually answers lol. Why was "Red Eye" and "Boy No" remixed in 2010? Was it for the "Michael" album? Why would they touch up an instrumental and a mumbled demo? Do more complete versions exist or did the Estate feel like they really didn't have a lot of material left to work with back in 2010?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Assuming all of the info given here is legit this is such a cool leak, but this opens up more questions than it actually answers lol. Why was "Red Eye" and "Boy No" remixed in 2010? Was it for the "Michael" album? Why would they touch up an instrumental and a mumbled demo? Do more complete versions exist or did the Estate feel like they really didn't have a lot of material left to work with back in 2010?
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The video DID say multiple mixes exist
 
All I'm expecting is a joke leak or new snippets at best, not too long ago the guy said he'd leak "Water" and "Monster" in full high quality but all he shared was LQ snippets so I'm keeping my expectations low here. Would be surreal if we get "Dark Lady" in full though.
 
Saka21 said:
Any idea how tf the guy even got Dark Lady? It wasn't one of the tracks played at the MP × Buxer seminar, what's the source here…
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MJ Leaker said that all of the songs Damien went into detail on Twitter are in the hands of collectors, and the fact that all of the snippets he shared were songs he spoke about is enough to make me believe that. So there are definitely people out there hoarding "Don't Make Me Stay", "Broken Chair", "D.I.E", "Rock Tonight", "She Don't Love Me", etc. Probably all of the songs that were copyright registered + more.
 
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