The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

ik these are 3 second snippets but

Dark Lady - if finished it would've been a certified 2000s MJ banger, definitely the one I wanna hear the most
Innocent Man - i didn't expect it to be upbeat, nice little track, rare to get a completely new song in HQ from the get-go lol
Rocker - the vocals on the snippet sound nice, the beat doesn't sit right with me though
Remember What I Told You - very prettyy, another one I really wanna hear
Adore You - for mostly an instrumental I'd say it's pretty good, the choir is cool af but otherwise it's not one I'd go back to as much
Changes - basically the same thing as with Adore You lol
 
Innocent Man is the one that's surprised me most, given the handwritten lyrics, I was fully expecting a SPYHO/Don't Walk Away vibe. It feels more like Deep In The Night meets Beautiful Girl with a more serious tone. I love it

One thing these snippets confirm to me is Mike's own demos were far more interesting than outside writer ones. I just wish he stood firm and finished some of these ideas, rather than seeker outside writers
 
Okay, review time:

Rocker — The fact that it was recorded in a bathroom just makes me want to hear the HQ version even more. I can only imagine the natural reverb and how the vocals sounds. It really shows (even though everyone already knows) how obsessed MJ was with acoustics, how his voice could sound better and better through different recording and mixing techniques. He never stopped experimenting.

It's a dance-pop track that leans almost gospel in tone. The title feels more like a placeholder, especially since, as Damien said, it doesn't really reflect the lyrics. You could stretch it and say it refers to the groove or the energy.

Maybe it's just the novelty factor that adds to it, but to me, even in the short snippet we have, it already shows way more potential than weaker humanitarian tracks like "What More Can I Give", "Cry", or "I Have This Dream". This one feels like a stronger anthem, probably on par with "We've Had Enough".

For the state it was left in, it's a 10/10.

Remember What I Told You — So sweet and pure. I've always had a soft spot for his softer timbre songs.

It's hard to form a full opinion based on such a short snippet, but it definitely gives me "Speechless" vibes. And given how brief it is, the comparison makes sense, a track like this today would probably be labeled an interlude. I'm really curious about what kind of plan Mike had for it.

Was it meant as an interlude on his next studio album? Or maybe something he'd perform between high energy songs to bring the mood down for a moment on the This Is It tour? Either way, it would've been a beautiful touch. There's not much else to say, except that vocally, it already sounds lovely. Sure, the quality is low, and it's too short to fully grasp how his voice was just two weeks before his passing, but I'm just happy we finally get to hear how Michael sounded during that time.

He was under immense physical and psychological pressure during the rehearsals for TII, and yet he was still thinking about creating. I'm sure the full version is a beautiful epilogue, it needs to be included in the end credits of the biopic.

Dark Lady — Here we go, another femme fatale MJ track! The man just couldn't resist singing about manipulative, dangerous women... but this one totally caught me off guard. I was expecting something darker and moodier, more along the lines of the Cascio track "Black Widow", but I love what we got instead.

This is another one I'm dying to hear in full. It already has a rough vocal take, not just a looped chorus, and in the full version there are even classic MJ ad-libs sprinkled in. That alone sets it apart from so many other unfinished demos.

It sounds like something pulled from a Timbaland or Neptunes album, experimental hip-pop at its best. What more could you ask for? It's unique, fresh, and you can hear MJ trying to bend that sound into something of his own. He hadn't really touched this kind of style before, and it shows how much he was still evolving.

Just imagine if he had brought in "Year of the Gentleman"-era Ne-Yo to work on this with him… certified banger.

Innocent Man – Eh, not really my thing. It's cute, I guess, but if that's all there is vocally, I can't say I'm all that interested.

I wasn't expecting It to sound like that, but this time it didn't really impress me. "Dark Lady" actually blew me away instead. It's like if "Someone Put Your Hand Out (Demo)" and the final version had a baby. It's otherworldly, like accidentally finding yourself in heaven and feeling confused af because there's this man singing super fast in a crowded way, and you can't really understand what he's saying, lol

I was expecting a touching ballad, but I have to say one cool thing about these unreleased tracks is how they rarely meet your expectation. You never really know what you're gonna get, and that's the exciting part for me.
 
I’m thinking the 6/15/2009 bit might have been additional vocals and/or the final mix done in MJ’s life. The person who shared it with me has been spot on so I have no reason to doubt them!

Nevertheless, extraordinary tune.
Yeah I remember a story bit specifically about MJ having a lil makeshift studio outside the stadium to record in.
 
So in total we heard 15 out of the 32 songs:
-Hollywood Tonight
-Shut up and Dance(supposedly on of the the Korgnex snippets)
-Adore You
-Beautiful Girl
-MJ Barry Gibb song / All in Your Name
-Scared of the Moon
-Ghost of Another Lover
-Gloucestershire
-Throwing You Life Away
-The Loser
-Best of Joy
-Dark Lady
-Bottom of My Heart
-Hold My Hand
-Remember What I Told You
He was working on more songs than what can be seen on that photo.

Michael should have waited with TII and instead finished the album first.😥
 
I’m thinking the 6/15/2009 bit might have been additional vocals and/or the final mix done in MJ’s life. The person who shared it with me has been spot on so I have no reason to doubt them!

Nevertheless, extraordinary tune.
ohh alr !! if true, especially if it was June 19 like some sources say, then his energy was honestly still insane because this day was apparently when everyone described him as looking the most ill, incoherent etc...and then he proceeded to record the most heavenly vocals known to man lol
 
On the old MaxJax forum, there was an insider who leaked some info on Michael before it came out and he said that the majority of the music MJ was working on in his final years were ballads and midtempo songs. Looking at the titles and what we know of them, that seems to be the case.
So he followed even more the path he had taken with the quieter songs on Invincible.
 
I'm super eager to learn about the kind of pop music Michael was working on in his last years, the RedOne songs will be perfect to showcase that. He probably didn't have much creative input in those sessions (at least not compared to the Brad Buxer/Neff-U sessions) but he still must've had a hand on the production of those songs. Honestly with everything that leaked in the last 3 years I wouldn't put it past me that those will leak one day as well lol
 
I'm super eager to learn about the kind of pop music Michael was working on in his last years, the RedOne songs will be perfect to showcase that. He probably didn't have much creative input in those sessions (at least not compared to the Brad Buxer/Neff-U sessions) but he still must've had a hand on the production of those songs. Honestly with everything that leaked in the last 3 years I wouldn't put it past me that those will leak one day as well lol
Makes me wonder why the RedOne track wasn’t released on Michael. He’s said there’s lots of ideas but one is releasable, it would just take a guest artist to fill out the missing parts. Why didn’t they get Lady Gaga on it, she was working with RedOne and MJ himself wanted her to open this is it. If the track is even remotely releasable, it would’ve done huge numbers as a single in 2010.
 
Makes me wonder why the RedOne track wasn’t released on Michael. He’s said there’s lots of ideas but one is releasable, it would just take a guest artist to fill out the missing parts. Why didn’t they get Lady Gaga on it, she was working with RedOne and MJ himself wanted her to open this is it. If the track is even remotely releasable, it would’ve done huge numbers as a single in 2010.
RedOne won't allow the Estate to release his songs unless the proceeds go to charity, I think that's the only reason. And you know how money hungry the Estate is so it's never seeing the light of day lmao

Edit: Yeah he says it's because of that. He also says that the one song that can be released is about love, maybe it's "Dancing For Love"?
 
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RedOne won't allow the Estate to release his songs unless the proceeds go to charity, I think that's the only reason. And you know how money hungry the Estate is so it's never seeing the light of day lmao

Edit: Yeah he says it's because of that. He also says that the one song that can be released is about love, maybe it's "Dancing For Love"?
I would assume the track is Dancing For Love. But imagine if it was the lead single from Michael, and the proceeds were donated to charity. it would’ve been the perfect first new music from the estate. People would’ve really gotten behind that.
 
But imagine if it was the lead single from Michael, and the proceeds were donated to charity. it would’ve been the perfect first new music from the estate. People would’ve really gotten behind that.
We're clearly in the worst timeline, because we're asking for a better option than what we got, like it wouldn't be better if MJ just didn't freaking die 😭
 
We're clearly in the worst timeline, because we're asking for a better option than what we got, like it wouldn't be better if MJ just didn't freaking die 😭
Yes yes of course. I’m just saying, the estate had the opportunity to start really strong with the unreleased material and instead choose the Casio tracks, pissing off his family, collaborators, fans. Essentially everyone. No wonder producers don’t want to work with them.
 
Yes yes of course. I’m just saying, the estate had the opportunity to start really strong with the unreleased material and instead choose the Casio tracks, pissing off his family, collaborators, fans. Essentially everyone. No wonder producers don’t want to work with them.
And even before the release of the Michael album they made a huge mistake with the release of This is it: It wasnt his "last song", it wasnt even close to new; it was cowritten by Anka who didnt know it was his song they want to release and just did release it and even the name was wrong
 
Biblically. I need Dark Lady biblically. I've had the lyrics "dark lady will get what she wants every time" stuck in my head all day long

Just Remember as well. It seriously still hasn't sunk in for me that we're finally hearing these songs lol
It might come out for MJ’s birthday, at least that’s the delusion I have.
 
I need Adore You and Rocker in full. And someone to actually give a modern look to most of those leaks. Just as an experiment.
 
Biblically. I need Dark Lady biblically. I've had the lyrics "dark lady will get what she wants every time" stuck in my head all day long

Just Remember as well. It seriously still hasn't sunk in for me that we're finally hearing these songs lol
I've been listening to the second Just Remember snippet a lot lol.
 
Yes yes of course. I’m just saying, the estate had the opportunity to start really strong with the unreleased material and instead choose the Casio tracks, pissing off his family, collaborators, fans. Essentially everyone. No wonder producers don’t want to work with them.
This is it was a perfect beginning to the general public posthumous relations but Michael absolutely fumbled the hardcore fans.
 
This is it was a perfect beginning to the general public posthumous relations but Michael absolutely fumbled the hardcore fans.
This is it wasn’t unreleased music. It was a good project. I’m talking strictly the unreleased music. They didn’t just fumble the hardcore fans, they fumbled everyone.
 
This is it wasn’t unreleased music. It was a good project. I’m talking strictly the unreleased music. They didn’t just fumble the hardcore fans, they fumbled everyone.
We're getting into semantics I guess.

The general public didn't really care about the fake tracks, they just objected to the entire process of posthumous albums as they lately have (not). It didn't have a good reputation thanks to the Tupac Estate among others. And people started talking about MJ's perfectionism because This Is It did such a good job establishing it to the general audience.

Guys like Quincy and Will.I.Am saying it was about the money (While they tried to stake claims to money they were or were not owed) stood out more than "an impersonator on the MJ record". That's what makes it so fascinating, the most glaring forgery in music history is like an asterisk in MJ's overall career.
 
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