Latest on MJJC

The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Clay7 said:
Such a strange crazy story i can't believe i've never heard anyone talk about this. Even got a Diddy cameo 😭😭
image.png


This also would date some refs for MJ as 1998 that were previously thought to be 99
Click to expand...
Diddy do it?
 
Question, do we have any evidence or source stating Remember What I Told You/Just Remember was worked on in June 2009? If so, very eerie since the song sounds like a parting message.
Saka21 said:
Early Jan '26 LEAKS

FULL TRACKS / DATs / SESSION VERSIONS
  1. Neverland Landing — 1983 (original); reworked 2000s — Credits: Michael Jackson & Buz Kohan (orig); later work with Brad Buxer. Source: leaked session tape; version appears tied to early Bad sessions (c. 1986).
  2. Throwin' Your Life Away — 1988 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Bill Bottrell. Source: high-quality DAT tape (lossless).
  3. Jane Is A Groupie — 1989 — Source: circulating in full; leaked by Motif and Phoenix.
  4. Bubbles (instrumental) — 1989–1990 — Credits: Bryan Loren (producer). Source: circulating in low-quality recording
  5. Homeless Bound (instrumental) — 1990 — Credits: Bryan Loren (producer). Notes: instrumental track featuring extended recordings of homeless voices throughout the piece. Source: circulating in low-quality recording.
  6. Garbage (instrumental) — early 1990s — Credits: Bryan Loren (producer). Source: early Dangerous session material.
  7. Can't Let Her Get Away — Extended Mix — 1991 — Writers: Michael Jackson & Teddy Riley. Producers: Michael Jackson & Teddy Riley. Notes: unreleased take of the rap verse, alternate overall mix with new ad-libs.
  8. Remember The Time — “Korg’s EXTRA Hard Hittin’ Bounce With All The Fellas” Mix — 1991 — Source: custom mix created by Korgnex using the remix multitrack.
  9. Dream Girl (instrumental) — Jul 19, 1993 — Credits: Bryan Loren (producer). Source: DAT timestamped 1993-07-19.
  10. Family Thing (instrumental) — Bryan Loren version — date unknown — Credits: Bryan Loren. Source: circulated studio version (Larrabee Studios).
  11. Bombay Nights (instrumental) — Aug 31, 1994 — Credits: René Moore (producer). Source: HIStory-era session tape.
  12. Innocent Man — 1994 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: leaked HIStory-era version.
  13. Much Too Soon — Mix #9 — 1994 — Writer: Michael Jackson. Producers: Michael Jackson & Bruce Swedien. Note: MJ felt this mix sounded particularly strong!
  14. Changes — Sep 1995 (HIStory era) — Credits: Michael Jackson. Source: circulating complete and unedited, captured from a Korgnex livestream (original mix, no edits).
  15. Shut Up And Dance — writer demo (Eric Kirkland) [V1] — Invincible-era (late 1990s) — Credits: Eric Kirkland (demo vocal). Source: circulated demo tape from Invincible sessions.
  16. MJ Brad Loop (3.3.7) — 2000s sessions — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: now circulating in full, captured from a Korgnex livestream.
  17. Get Your Weight Off Of Me — 1999–2000 — Writers: Michael Jackson, Rodney Jerkins, Fred Jerkins III, LaShawn Daniels. Producers: Michael Jackson & Rodney Jerkins. Source: HQ lossless version circulating from a Korgnex livestream.
  18. World of Candy — 2003 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer; duet vocal with Nisha Kataria. Source: circulated studio demo.
  19. Days in Gloucestershire — Recorded 2004; mix "Bible" c.2008 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Notes: alternate instrumentation, removed parts and previously unheard vocals. Source: leaked mix circulating c.2008.
  20. Adore You — c.2004–2005 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: circulated session demo.
  21. From The Bottom Of My Heart (instrumental) — c.2007 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: now circulating in full, captured from a Korgnex livestream.
  22. Shut Up And Dance — writer demo (Eric Kirkland) [V?] — c.2008 — Credits: Eric Kirkland (demo vocal). Notes: reportedly partially edited by leaker; differs from Invincible-era demo. Source: circulated 2008 demo.
  23. Remember What I Told You — reported 2008; additional work Jun 2009 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: reported by Damien Shields; follow-up work noted by AlwaysThere (June 2009).
  24. Best of Joy — Lead Vocal A Cappella Mix — 2008 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer (producer). Source: circulating in full, captured from a Korgnex livestream.
  25. Do You Know Where Your Children Are — “Who You Gonna Call Who Can’t” Mix — 2014 — Source: multitrack-based mix created by Korgnex, using the Timbaland version.
  26. Don't Be Messin' Round — “Korg Redux 2026” — Source: multitrack-based mix created by Korgnex, using an unidentified/unknown source version.
  27. Hallucination — writer demo (Steve Porcaro) — date unknown — Credits: Steve Porcaro (writer). Source: circulated demo.

SNIPPETS / PARTIAL CLIPS
  • Loving You — multitrack snippet (HQ) — 1985 — Source: shared on Motif Discord call.
  • Give In To Me — work / writing session snippet (partial) — 1990 — Credits: Michael Jackson & Bill Bottrell. Note: ~18 minutes leaked from an estimated 55-minute session. Source: Motif Discord call.
  • Homeless Bound — instrumental snippet — 1990 — Credits: Bryan Loren (producer). Source: Motif Discord call.
  • Threatened — writer-demo snippet — Invincible-era (late 1990s) — Source: Motif Discord call.
  • Xscape — multitrack snippet — 1999 — Source: Motif Discord call.
  • Rocker — snippets (edited clips) — early 2000s — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: circulated snippets.
  • Boy No — snippets — 2000s — Credits: Michael Jackson & Brad Buxer. Source: circulated snippets.
  • Don't Be Messin' Round — alternate-version snippet — date unknown — Source: Motif Discord call.
  • Heartbreak Hotel — snippet — Source: soundboard recording from the Immortal Cirque du Soleil show, circulated via a Korgnex livestream.
Click to expand...
 
The MJJ Library said:
Can someone send a screenshot of this?
Click to expand...
AlwaysThere: Some information I've recently become privy to:

- "Boy No" is similar to "Days in Gloucestershire" and "Beautiful Girl," with touches of "Human Nature," in terms of production, with a great melody. Michael only ever recorded a verse and chorus, so the Estate would need to call in a second singer if they ever wanted to release it, but it's apparently quite beautiful.

- "Rocker" is allegedly the most finished post-trial songs: proper vocals all the way throughout (albeit with a somewhat incoherent lyrical narrative) w/ some screaming in the final leg, guitar solo, etc. Parallels have been drawn between it and "They Don't Care About Us."

- "H2O/Dark Lady" has been described as having comeback hit potential, had Michael lived to finish and release it. It's got a characteristically earworm bass riff (evidently comparable to Queen's "Under Pressure"), a wonderful melody with a quasi-Arabic chorus, and modern production with synth orchestra hits. The verses are half-baked but the chorus is releasable as-is, so it could be a strong vehicle for a rapper's album, similar to how Drake flipped "Don't Matter to Me."

- "Remember What I Told You" was recorded around June 19, 2009, and is the last song Michael ever put vocals to. It's reportedly similar to "Speechless" in terms of tone, and only has a short verse and multi-layered chorus. It can't be finished in the same way "Boy No" could, but perhaps (in the words of the wonderful individual who told me) it could be a great intro or interlude on an album." It was apparently recorded in a sound truck parked outside the Staples Center, at some point during between rehearsals. I'd absolutely LOVE to listen to it. There were some songs tracked at the Carolwood residence though -- to my understanding, "Water" (the real one, not the Cascio one) was done there.

- There's a song called "She Don't Want Me" that sounds a bit like a modernized "The Way You Make Me Feel." There's only a few lines recorded that presumably would've been the chorus, but the melody is catchy.
Click to expand...
 
Innocent Man, Changes, Neverland Landing and Don’t Be Messin got 2008 reworks?
Those were registered in 2010 by MP
 
AlwaysThere said:
Tweet Recaps: DAMIEN SHIELDS

GENERAL NOTES & OBSERVATIONS
  • The exact number of unreleased MJ–Jerkins collaborations is unknown, though Fred Jerkins III stated that there were “a few,” including “Escape,” “Get Your Weight Off of Me” and “We’ve Had Enough.”
  • MJ and Rodney Jerkins briefly reunited in 2006 to discuss a future collaboration, but no actual writing or recording took place.
  • At least three Neff-U pieces are sonically reminiscent of Dr. Dre’s “The Watcher,” though their time together ultimately did not yield any releasable songs.
  • MJ met with Rod Temperton “a couple of times” ca. 2008 to obtain his input on several existing demos (listed below). If any work was conducted between the two, it likely wasn’t “anything noteworthy.”

SPECIFIC SONG NOTES
  • “11PM.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “ADORE YOU.” No lead vocals. “Some background vocals which build into a full-blown choir type of thing at the end.”
  • “BEAUTIFUL GIRL.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008. Appears five times in miscellaneous handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “BEST OF JOY.” Originally written and recorded as “The Toy” in 1981-82, re-recorded with new lyrics and an updated instrumental in April 1991, and re-recorded again with an as-yet-unreleased third verse in November 2008. The 2008 version understood to be MJ’s “last fully-complete vocal.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008. Appears on multiple handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “BOTTOM OF MY HEART.” Alternatively titled “From the Bottom of My Heart.” Produced by MJ and Buxer. No relation to “I Have This Dream,” despite contradictory reports.
  • “BOY NO.” Verses “largely mumbled.” Contains a musical element (“maybe a classical guitar”) reminiscent of “Days in Gloucestershire.” Unfinished lyrics mention “seeing the city lights, being alone, and having nowhere to go.” Overall theme is “a vagabond who isn’t welcome anywhere.” Chorus lyrics: “Boy, no / [We/they] ain’t got a place for [you/me] to stay.”
  • “BROKEN CHAIR” (working title). Instrumental only / no vocals. “Booming digital drums and rock/electric guitar.”
  • “BUTTER FUNK.” Written by MJ & Michael Prince. Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “CAN’T STOP LOVING YOU.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008.
  • “THE CHILDREN’S HOUR.” “Children’s song.”
  • “CRAZE.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “D.I.E.” Instrumental only / no vocals. “Epic. Hard hitting drums and bass with really strong strings. It also has these moments where the music stops and a haunting choir thing comes in creating an ominous build, then the beat drops again.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008.
  • “DARK LADY / H2O.” Recorded in 2008. Consists of a single-take scratch lead vocal and supplementary BG vocals. Verses are “totally nonsensical gibberish.” Bass line reminiscent of Queen’s “Under Pressure.” Verse lyrics: “Dark lady will get what she wants every time / Dark lady don’t know what she is.” Pre-chorus lyrics: “She get the right one.” Chorus lyrics (falsetto): “And you should save me from heaven / Save me from [?].” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008.
  • “DEEP IN THE NIGHT.” Appears on a handwritten “to-do” list ca. 2009.
  • “DON’T BE MESSIN’.” Appears on a handwritten “to-do” list ca. 2009.
  • “DON’T MAKE ME STAY.” Musically complete. Scratch vocal throughout; no coherent lyrics other than the title. Recorded with a room mic (“It sounded very distant — like MJ wasn’t near the mic when it was recorded or something”). Chorus reminiscent of Janet’s “Runaway.”
  • “EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE A MOVIE STAR.” Appears in several handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “FOR THE WORLD.” Recorded post-1998. Two minutes long. Vocals “mostly mumbled,” with scattered “alright” and “ooh” ad-libs, and concludes with MJ “stop[ping] the track and giv[ing] notes/instructions.” Opening drum beat and overall “light production” and “breezy vibe” compared to “Free” and “I Was the Loser.” Consists of “[drum] beat, shakers, bass, and strings.” Verse lyrics mostly incoherent other than random utterances of the words “sun” and “trees.” Chorus lyrics: “We do it for the world.” No relation to the spoken word piece circulating online.
  • “GREEN HORNET GROOVE.” Worked on with Brad Buxer. Instrumental only / no vocals. Written as a pitch for the Seth Rogen film The Green Hornet.
  • “HE WHO MAKES THE SKY GRAY.” Vocals exist, though their state of completion is uncertain.
  • “HOLLYWOOD TONIGHT.” Unreleased elements include bridge ad libs (“She’s too young to understand”) and rhythm guitar by David Williams. One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008.
  • “HOT FUN IN THE SUMMERTIME.” Recorded at Marvin’s Room between 1998 and 2003.
  • “I HAVE THIS DREAM.” Arrangement by John Barnes. All-star charity version complete, featuring Ciara, Snoop Dogg, James Ingram, Jermaine, Shirley Caesar, the O’Jays, and R. Kelly (who MJ sought to remove), among others. MJ intended to the-record his demo vocals. Leaked writer’s demo is authentic.
  • “I LOVE YOU.” Written by Taryll Jackson for an unreleased 3T album. MJ, who helped produce the project, wanted to record a solo version, but “died before he got around to it.”
  • “I LOVE YOU MORE.” Written by MJ, Michael Prince, and Eric Kirkland. Two writers demos recorded; existence of MJ vocals unclear.
  • “I WAS THE LOSER.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008. Appears on multiple handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “INNOCENT MAN.” “Super soft” chorus vocals only.
  • “IS SHE COMING BACK.” Written and produced by Dr. Freeze. One of several songs submitted for MJ’s consideration in 2008-9. Appears on several handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “JUNGLE.” Written and produced by Dr. Freeze. Existence of MJ vocals unclear.
  • “KING TUTANKHAMEN.” Recorded in 2008. Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “LADY OF SUMMER.” Classical piece. One of two presented to David Michael Frank in 2009 for a planned classical album.
  • “LIGHT THE WAY.” No lead vocals; “Just music [and a] choral chorus.” Features a “horn section intro.” Chorus lyrics: “Light the way / Let’s pray, pray for peace.”
  • “MICHAEL’S AFFIRMATION.” Spoken word piece, with “Photographs” used as incidental backing music. Dedicated to Roy Horn of Siegfried & Roy, who was recovering from an onstage injury in late 2003.
  • “MONSTER.” Recorded in 1998. Strings arranged by Michael Prince based on an MJ voicemail. Chorus vocals only. “Epic production. Lots of layers.” Chorus lyrics: “You created a monster.”
  • “NEVERLAND LANDING.” “Children’s song.”
  • “PAJAMAS.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “PHOTOGRAPHS.” Instrumental only / no vocals. Used as incidental backing music on “Michael’s Affirmation.”
  • “RED EYE” (likely working title). Instrumental only / no vocals. Could be the title of two separate songs; unconfirmed.
  • “REMEMBER WHAT I TOLD YOU.” Alternatively titled “Just Remember.” Recorded in Las Vegas in 2008. 90 seconds. Scratch vocals. Structurally similar to “Speechless”: “Starts off acapella and builds into an epic finale with many [vocal layers].” Consists of a piano and finger snaps. Lyrics: “Remember what I told you, and remember for all time.”
  • “ROCK TONIGHT.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “ROCKER” (working title). Recorded in a Neverland bathroom “sometime before the end of 2004.” Consists of a single-take scratch vocal and supplementary BG vocals. Vocal melody reminiscent of Queen’s “We Will Rock You,” while the “aggressive spitting” delivery Is comparable to “They Don’t Care About Us” and “Morphine.” Verses are “complete nonsense,” while the “anthemic” chorus is “close to complete.” Chorus lyrics: “And the world is one big melting pot of life.”
  • “SATURDAY WOMAN.” Appears on a handwritten “to-do” list ca. 2009.
  • “SCARED OF THE MOON.” Appears three times in miscellaneous handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “SHE DON’T LOVE ME.” Recorded in 2008. Chorus vocals only. Sonically similar to the 2014 mix of “Do You Know Where Your Children Are” (“Both sound like computer-generated video game music”). Chorus lyrics: “She don’t love me, she don’t want me / She don’t need me / She doesn’t care, she doesn’t care.”
  • “SHUT UP AND DANCE.” Written by MJ, Michael Prince, and Eric Kirkland. MJ never recorded vocals, though a writers demo by Kirkland exists.
  • “SILENT SPRING.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “STAND TALL.” Sung by a male session singer, in addition to “what sounded like a choir.” Chorus and bridge vocals only. Existence of MJ vocals unclear.
  • “THANK HEAVEN.” MJ delivers a spoken intro dedicating the song to “my son Michael Jackson Jr.”; main demo sung by a female session singer and choir. “Sounds like a lullaby/nursery rhyme.”
  • “THAT” (working title). Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “THINK TWICE.” Instrumental only / no vocals. “Synthesized electric guitars.”
  • “THROWIN’ YOUR LIFE AWAY.” Reworked by Neff-U in 2010 for Michael, but never seriously considered. Strings and guitars were added to an existing mix, as the multitracks were unavailable.
  • “TOMBOY.” Instrumental only / no vocals. “Synth drums, bass, guitar riff, very nice strings, similar sounds to Captain EO at times.” Musical element bears similarity to the vocal melody of “I bet you remember” from “Remember the Time.”
  • “WALK AWAY.” Instrumental only / no vocals.
  • “THE WAY YOU LOVE ME.” One of eight songs presented to Rod Temperton in 2008. Appears on multiple handwritten “to-do” lists ca. 2009.
  • “WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE.” Recorded in 1998.
  • “WHAT YOU DO TO ME” (1985). Vocal completion uncertain, though his notes indicate “there is at least enough there to consider it ‘complete’ by some standards.” Mid-tempo, with a “similar breezy vibe” as “I’m So Blue” and “Free.” Chorus lyrics: “You just don’t know / You just don’t know / You just don’t know what you do to me, do to me, do-do-do to me.”
  • “WHAT YOU DO TO ME” (1998). Early demo of “The Way You Love Me” with “primitive production,” “scratch vocals on the chorus (no verse vocal),” and “MJ scatting/yodeling at the end.”
  • “WORLD OF CANDY.” “Children’s song.”
Click to expand...
This states 2008
 
AlwaysThere said:
Someone I spoke to who was dead on about “Rocker” and “Dark Lady.” It’s possible that the June 2009 date was the last day the song was worked on.
Click to expand...
Sadly, thats not verifiable enough. I wanna use your information for research but with no confirmed evidence, I can't.
 
Would guess almost all of these 90s/00s songs are from the Buxer/Prince icloud hack I've heard about (there's also Bill Bottrell who said the GITM tape was stolen) but unsure where Neverland Landing is from given Buxer/Prince weren't around. Possibly the same place as Turnin Me Off and Don't Matter To Me given they're also 80s but all getting reworked later on with Buxer/Prince is possible too.
 
AlwaysThere said:
What a voice. You can hear some pitch correction, but there were a few noticeable out-of-tune moments. Incredible to hear it like that.
Click to expand...
I don't think I've ever heard Michael unintentionally out of tune. He had perfect pitch.
If he was off key it was intentional and part of the song structure.
 
kelley said:
I don't think I've ever heard Michael unintentionally out of tune. He had perfect pitch.
If he was off key it was intentional and part of the song structure.
Click to expand...
It really depends on how you define out of tune. A singer isn’t a keyboard or a fixed-pitch instrument. The voice is flexible by nature, and its pitch constantly fluctuates due to breath, vibrato and articulation.

Because of this, it’s completely normal for sung notes not to land exactly on a single, mathematically precise frequency.
The best singers will occasionally be a few cents sharp or flat without it being intentional or audible in a musical sense.

Also, having perfect (absolute) pitch doesn’t mean you never sing slightly off frequency. That’s a misconception. It just means you can identify pitches accurately. Michael had exceptional pitch control and intonation, but that doesn’t turn the voice into a mathematically precise instrument.
There’s also no concrete proof (that I’ve seen at least) that Michael had absolute pitch. He clearly had exceptional relative pitch and pitch memory, which are definitely far more important anyway.

If every tiny deviation were “intentional,” that would imply superhuman micro-control at all times, which isn’t how singing works. What is certainly true is that his pitch deviations were usually expressive.
 
kelley said:
I don't think I've ever heard Michael unintentionally out of tune. He had perfect pitch.
If he was off key it was intentional and part of the song structure.
Click to expand...
He’s definitely had pitchy moments, both in the studio and in concert. Every artist does! Even the best voices falter sometime; it’s not a diss.
 
kelley said:
I don't think I've ever heard Michael unintentionally out of tune. He had perfect pitch.
If he was off key it was intentional and part of the song structure.
Click to expand...
The very very last few refrains of the Hollywood Tonight demo are a little "off".

But its a demo so it doesn't matter at all!

(They also cut and paste a bit of him slightly slightly out of tune singing Human Nature in the TII movie. A clip released after his death was unedited and he was a small bit off. Again, rehearsal, first tour in 12 years so it doesn't count).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top