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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere said:
So, “What You Do to Me” from 1998 is just a scratch demo of a son we’ve already heard. Disappointing. With every revelation, the vault shrinks and shrinks.
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The 1985 version of "What You Do to Me" exists and has vocals/lyrics. It's similar to Free & I'm So Blue according to Damien. So that's a releasable song.
 
I never even heard of a song called “changes” but what this Damien guy describes sounds great.
I’m so disappointed none of these are finished.
 
AChanceToDance said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1581696466007240704

It's not a releaseable song though. The vault keeps getting shorter and shorter...
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This is similar to what I was told, especially about the chorus and production. I was told, though, that it technically is releasable, though the verses don’t make much sense. Perhaps they could pull a “Tabloid Junkie” and use it as an artistic choice?
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah, Damien saying something is incomplete doesn't mean that it's actually unusable or won't be released.
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Just Remember" and "Remember What I Told You" are the same song. It's a short demo. Approximately 90 seconds total. Nowhere near finished. But it's stunning. Think "Speechless" but far less saccharin. I think this is one fans would hold close to their hearts if it came out.
 
 
Lotfi11k said:
Just Remember" and "Remember What I Told You" are the same song. It's a short demo. Approximately 90 seconds total. Nowhere near finished. But it's stunning. Think "Speechless" but far less saccharin. I think this is one fans would hold close to their hearts if it came out.
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Can you ask Damien for details about H20?
 
SmoothGangsta said:
Everything is unfinished.
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Exactly! I don't understand how a song not having complete vocals somehow disqualifies it for some here. Would it have been great if MJ had shelved entirely finished albums a la Prince? Sure, but we've known for years that's not the case. Most outtakes will be unfinished ideas with maybe just chorus vocals, or a verse and a chorus, or maybe just an instrumental. I guess not everyone finds that interesting, but I'm eager to hear it all (in the way MJ left it behind, mind you).
 
How has Damien come by all this new information? Has he gone to Washington and listened to them recently?
 
Lotfi11k said:
I asked him a lot he will soon bothered from me
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He's answering everyone it's not like he minds. He most definitely won't feel bothered by a few more questions.
Lotfi11k said:
open Twitter and ask him by yourself
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I would if I had an account and I don't feel like creating one just for this (I'm pretty inclined though). It's ok if you don't want to just don't be rude about it.
 
AlwaysThere said:
All of us can. If you make a request on the US Copyright Office website and pay a fee, you go to their D.C. headquarters and you can listen to anything and everything.
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Really? Visitors to USCO are required to pay a fee? Seems odd. I get that a fee might be required for depositing the copyrighted item (not sure about that, tbh) but visitors wishing to *listen* to something, surely they get that for free?

If you want to listen to stuff at the British Library (the UK equivalent to the Library of Congress) you don't pay. You do need a reader ticket and they are not issued automatically to just anyone. But once you have a ticket you don't pay to access the resources. I'd have thought a similar system was in place at LoC. Bit shocked if free access is not the case. Maybe I'm missing something. 🤔
 
SoCav said:
Exactly! I don't understand how a song not having complete vocals somehow disqualifies it for some here. Would it have been great if MJ had shelved entirely finished albums a la Prince? Sure, but we've known for years that's not the case. Most outtakes will be unfinished ideas with maybe just chorus vocals, or a verse and a chorus, or maybe just an instrumental. I guess not everyone finds that interesting, but I'm eager to hear it all (in the way MJ left it behind, mind you).
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Yeah totally agreed I'm interested to hear everything even if it's just a scrap. Also yeah as MJ left it is ideal.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Really? Visitors to USCO are required to pay a fee? Seems odd. I get that a fee might be required for depositing the copyrighted item (not sure about that, tbh) but visitors wishing to *listen* to something, surely they get that for free?

If you want to listen to stuff at the British Library (the UK equivalent to the Library of Congress) you don't pay. You do need a reader ticket and they are not issued automatically to just anyone. But once you have a ticket you don't pay to access the resources. I'd have thought a similar system was in place at LoC. Bit shocked if free access is not the case. Maybe I'm missing something. 🤔
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I thought the same thing, but I was told there was a fee! If it’s free, I’m making my appointment right now haha.

Yeah, that’s the USA for ya! Anything for money.
 
AlwaysThere said:
I thought the same thing, but I was told there was a fee! If it’s free, I’m making my appointment right now haha.

Yeah, that’s the USA for ya! Anything for money.
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Seriously, I would urge you to make enquiries. I just can't believe they'd be charging for this. Commercial / business users of research libraries have to pay for services they use, of course. But the public accessing these types of resources, once you get past the hurdle of actually getting a reader's ticket (you might only be allowed to have a day ticket, for example) would not be expected to pay.

Check it out!
 
can someone summarize all information regarding all unrealesed songs and keep it up to date with new insights?
 
AChanceToDance said:
He's answering everyone it's not like he minds. He most definitely won't feel bothered by a few more questions.

I would if I had an account and I don't feel like creating one just for this (I'm pretty inclined though). It's ok if you don't want to just don't be rude about it.
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I'm not rude i talk like that
 
Fuzball said:
He was in DC few years ago afik
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Thanks for replying mate. I was just wondering why he's released so much unheard information now. It seems as if he's just heard these demo's

The lyrics to Boy No sound heartbreaking, it seems to be very much a reflection of MJ's life in his last 3-4 years.
Michael was such a talented songwriter and vocalist when it came to conveying emotion
 
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