The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

There were 2 albums that were supposed to be released in 1983......one of them was another Michael turned in no later than April and the Victory album but Victory was pushed back to 1984

You mean Michael had already had a working prototype for a Thriller successor?

 

[Derek1984]

John Barnes was asked years ago and confirmed. The Jacksons did an interview in early 1983 and said they had around 15 songs complete for their album with the tour starting September that same year

they mention it at 4:20

There's a bunch of song titles floating around out there from 1983/84 that remain unreleased. So this makes sense.

 

[BlackAnon]

You mean Michael had already had a working prototype for a Thriller successor?

Yes. CBS attorneys sent a letter to Michael in January of 1983 stating he's due to deliver another album to CBS Records before April per his contract. He was set to release a concept album after Thriller but Thrillers success took off and assuming CBS dropped the request for another album

 

[BlackAnon]

There's a bunch of song titles floating around out there from 1983/84 that remain unreleased. So this makes sense.

songs like Life of Chico, Thank You for Life, Be Not Always and a few others were going to be part of the album

 

[Lotfi11k]

songs like Life of Chico, Thank You for Life, Be Not Always and a few others were going to be part of the album

What also songs ?

 

[threepea11]

So basically Bad was being worked on as early as 1983? (as a different title obviously)

 

[Derek1984]

songs like Life of Chico, Thank You for Life, Be Not Always and a few others were going to be part of the album

Fantasy which has been linked to Jermaine? Doing Dirty, Attitude, Buffalo Bill, Far, Far, Away, I'm guessing that's some of them.

 

[BlackAnon]

Fantasy which has been linked to Jermaine? Attitude, Buffalo Bill, Far, Far, Away, I'm guessing that's some of them.

Got to Find a Way Somehow
Ode to Sorrow
Susie
Thank You for Life
You Ain't Gonna Change Nothing
Little Susie
In The Life Of Chico
A Baby Smiles
Be Not Always

Songs like that. The album, in Michaels words, were about children, poverty and "old people"

 

[Lotfi11k]

Got to Find a Way Somehow
Ode to Sorrow
Susie
Thank You for Life
You Ain't Gonna Change Nothing
Little Susie
In The Life Of Chico
A Baby Smiles
Be Not Always

Songs like that. The album, in Michaels words, were about children, poverty and "old people"

There is no evidence that songs recorded

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Susie is just Little Susie, no?

 

[Derek1984]

Yes. CBS attorneys sent a letter to Michael in January of 1983 stating he's due to deliver another album to CBS Records before April per his contract. He was set to release a concept album after Thriller but Thrillers success took off and assuming CBS dropped the request for another album

That's odd they would want another album so quick. And produced by Quincy?

 

[BlackAnon]

There is no evidence that songs recorded

All songs were recorded

 

[BlackAnon]

That's odd they would want another album so quick. And produced by Quincy?

The letter doesn't say by Quincy but just that Michael is to deliver another album

 

[Lotfi11k]

All songs were recorded

From where you got the information

 

[foralltimerishi]

I'm kinda confused about the whole Darkchild website thing. Was that real or was it just a fan thing?

I thought that C1945 was listed there but I recall discussions about it just being a fanmade list?

It is fan made...

 

[Fuzball]

So basically Bad was being worked on as early as 1983? (as a different title obviously)

The earliest song on Bad (DD) dates back to 1983.

 

[threepea11]

The earliest song on Bad (DD) dates back to 1983.

Yep, and Pyramid Girl and possibly Hot Street if it evolved into Hot Fever then TWYMMF

 

[Fuzball]

Yep, and Pyramid Girl and possibly Hot Street if it evolved into Hot Fever then TWYMMF

Hot Fever is twymmf (actually it was its working title when MJ hadn't written lyrics yet). No connection to the Rod Temperton song HS btw.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

It is fan made...

Thanks for the clarification! Unnecessary ellipses though

 

[BlackAnon]

Yep, and Pyramid Girl and possibly Hot Street if it evolved into Hot Fever then TWYMMF

Pyramid Girl is LG and Hot Street is its own song…..Hot Fever is just the working title to TWYMMF

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Pretty sure pyramid girl is just something fans made up

 

[AlwaysThere]

I'm kinda confused about the whole Darkchild website thing. Was that real or was it just a fan thing?

I thought that C1945 was listed there but I recall discussions about it just being a fanmade list?

The one posted above your comment was a fan site. There was a list posted on the former official Darkchild website, but I don’t recall offhand what titles matched between the two (though it’s worth noting that none of them included GYWOOM, which makes me question their legitimacy).

 

[Fuzball]

Pretty sure pyramid girl is just something fans made up

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

The letter doesn't say by Quincy but just that Michael is to deliver another album

Considering how most of those songs were made available, on albums without Quincy, I'd wager he wasn't nessicarily involved.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Yeah, I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere other than this article, so I do not think it's a legitimate title.

 

[BlackAnon]

Yeah, I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere other than this article, so I do not think it's a legitimate title.

it’s a real song but was most likely reworked as the session progressed

 

[SmoothGangsta]

it’s a real song but was most likely reworked as the session progressed

I just don't consider a random article mentioning it once as proof that Liberian Girl existed with that title. I guess we will see if a demo called that ever pops up.

 

[SmoothMel7]

I just don't consider a random article mentioning it once as proof that Liberian Girl existed with that title. I guess we will see if a demo called that ever pops up.

Totally in agreement with you. MJ was already mentioning the Liberian Girl title as early as 1983.

 

[Fuzball]

I just don't consider a random article mentioning it once as proof that Liberian Girl existed with that title. I guess we will see if a demo called that ever pops up.

Totally in agreement with you. MJ was already mentioning the Liberian Girl title as early as 1983.

Two possibilities come to mind. Either the author of the article misremembered the song title or there's a totally different song called PG with no connection to LG at all.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Two possibilities come to mind. Either the author of the article misremembered the song title or there's a totally different song called PG with no connection to LG at all.

More like the former because these reporters are stupid old croods.