Latest on MJJC

The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

AlwaysThere said:
MJ worked on it with Samuel Hoskins, who co-wrote “Shout.” Hoskins name dropped it in an interview with Hugo Heinen some years ago. No clue of its status.
Click to expand...
Never heard about that track before, but it sounds interesting. I wonder why literally no one within the community mentions it given the fact that fake/unconfirmed titles with little to no information are on every list of unreleased songs online lol.
 
Is anyone else curious as to how those very first songs made for Invincible sound like? What direction MJ thought of heading? I've seen someone claim that the song That sounded like the opening theme from PBS Frontline. I've found a song made by Brad Buxer on Spotify that sounds like it so I believe that claim.
 
dam2040 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1634253808107659287

Has anyone seen this before? It’s new to me.
Click to expand...
Awesome find!

I always figured it was a separate song. MJ wrote the 1989 song for Sammy and Sammy alone, and I thought it would be weird for him to suddenly resurrect it 20 years later for no reason. The lyrics are heartbreaking. Seems like another ode to his fans. I hope there’s something recorded for this one!
 
AlwaysThere said:
Awesome find!

I always figured it was a separate song. MJ wrote the 1989 song for Sammy and Sammy alone, and I thought it would be weird for him to suddenly resurrect it 20 years later for no reason. The lyrics are heartbreaking. Seems like another ode to his fans. I hope there’s something recorded for this one!
Click to expand...

I've been suspecting for a while they once you get into the Jeffree Phillips business you'll uncover a lot of uncopyrighted stuff. And I guess the Estates next three prong plan of business reflects that.
 
dam2040 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1634253808107659287

Has anyone seen this before? It’s new to me.
Click to expand...
That's amazing! I'm glad it's a new song because I've aways thought it's a rework or has something to do with the 1989 track for Sammy Davis Jr. The lyrics kinda remind me of "Best of Joy" but from the perspective of the person who MJ sings about, especially the line "It was you who carried me from the desert to the sea". Who knows, maybe it was indeed written with "Best of Joy" in mind!
 
Thank you so much @dam2040 for sharing. How exciting to know that there were indeed two separate songs with the same title.
 
dam2040 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1634253808107659287

Has anyone seen this before? It’s new to me.
Click to expand...
Here’s what I can decipher:

If I should die right here, this very day
To Heaven above, I pray
God, hear me say I am
Here cause you
To God, I’d loudly say
I am here
I’m up here cause you were there

And you were there when they all walked out on me
It was you who carried me from the desert to the sea
You were there when I was down
You were there when lost at sea
Sunshine cleared the rain
When the chips fell down on me
 
Just found a link to the court filings. There’s some very interesting items included, including an astonishing number of CDs. Highlights:
  • “Throwin’ Your Life Away” (p. 7)
  • “Earth Love,” dated April 22, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 8)
  • “Dancing for Love - RedOne” (p. 12)
  • “Ready 2 Win,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 15)
  • “Love Heals - MJ Neff-U New Funk” (p. 16)
  • “Ron great industrial age song” (p. 18)
  • “Breath” (p. 25)
  • “All Right,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 29)
  • “Dance MJ McKellar” (p. 32)
  • “Heaven With a Smile,” dated April 17, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 40)
  • “Song #4 - 1.2.6 Bible,” dated May 16, 2007 and written in the same handwriting as the miscellaneous CDs sold by Frank Cascio (p. 48)
  • “Ghost of Another Lover,” dated April 29, 2009, written in another person’s handwriting, and containing two mixes (“Mix 7 with Intro” and “Mix 4 No Intro”) (p. 52)
There’s also a slightly blurry picture of 35 additional CDs (p. 72), among which you can see the titles “Hollywood Tonight,” “Throwin’ Your Life Away,” “Miami Vice” (could be in relation to the TV series), and “Broken Chair.” Additionally, there are an extra set of lyrics for “You Were There” (p. 78):

You were there for the good times and the bad
When I’ve lost all that I had
You were there to have, to hold
When the world all came together
Trying to take away my soul
When the walls came down on me
You were there when the walls came tumbling down
 
AlwaysThere said:
Just found a link to the court filings. There’s some very interesting items included, including an astonishing number of CDs. Highlights:
  • “Throwin’ Your Life Away” (p. 7)
  • “Earth Love,” dated April 22, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 8)
  • “Dancing for Love - RedOne” (p. 12)
  • “Ready 2 Win,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 15)
  • “Love Heals - MJ Neff-U New Funk” (p. 16)
  • “Ron great industrial age song” (p. 18)
  • “Breath” (p. 25)
  • “All Right,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 29)
  • “Dance MJ McKellar” (p. 32)
  • “Heaven With a Smile,” dated April 17, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 40)
  • “Song #4 - 1.2.6 Bible,” dated May 16, 2007 and written in the same handwriting as the miscellaneous CDs sold by Frank Cascio (p. 48)
  • “Ghost of Another Lover,” dated April 29, 2009, written in another person’s handwriting, and containing two mixes (“Mix 7 with Intro” and “Mix 4 No Intro”) (p. 52)
There’s also a slightly blurry picture of 35 additional CDs (p. 72), among which you can see the titles “Hollywood Tonight,” “Throwin’ Your Life Away,” “Miami Vice” (could be in relation to the TV series), and “Broken Chair.” Additionally, there are an extra set of lyrics for “You Were There” (p. 78):

You were there for the good times and the bad
When I’ve lost all that I had
You were there to have, to hold
When the world all came together
Trying to take away my soul
When the walls came down on me
You were there when the walls came tumbling down
Click to expand...
Wow.
A Few Thoughts.
Seems that indeed the Cascio's presented some of the Fake "Cascio Tracks" to Michael.
Dancing For Love might be the title of the unknown song with RedOne(?)
Seems that You were There was in the writing process so maybe there's a mumbled demo.
I Need McKellar to be released.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Just found a link to the court filings. There’s some very interesting items included, including an astonishing number of CDs. Highlights:
  • “Throwin’ Your Life Away” (p. 7)
  • “Earth Love,” dated April 22, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 8)
  • “Dancing for Love - RedOne” (p. 12)
  • “Ready 2 Win,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 15)
  • “Love Heals - MJ Neff-U New Funk” (p. 16)
  • “Ron great industrial age song” (p. 18)
  • “Breath” (p. 25)
  • “All Right,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 29)
  • “Dance MJ McKellar” (p. 32)
  • “Heaven With a Smile,” dated April 17, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 40)
  • “Song #4 - 1.2.6 Bible,” dated May 16, 2007 and written in the same handwriting as the miscellaneous CDs sold by Frank Cascio (p. 48)
  • “Ghost of Another Lover,” dated April 29, 2009, written in another person’s handwriting, and containing two mixes (“Mix 7 with Intro” and “Mix 4 No Intro”) (p. 52)
There’s also a slightly blurry picture of 35 additional CDs (p. 72), among which you can see the titles “Hollywood Tonight,” “Throwin’ Your Life Away,” “Miami Vice” (could be in relation to the TV series), and “Broken Chair.” Additionally, there are an extra set of lyrics for “You Were There” (p. 78):

You were there for the good times and the bad
When I’ve lost all that I had
You were there to have, to hold
When the world all came together
Trying to take away my soul
When the walls came down on me
You were there when the walls came tumbling down
Click to expand...
Yep. This is about to be a new motherload of undiscovered unheard material.
 
And lol. If MJ actually knew about the Casio tracks. Maybe even signed off on them? Then they basically put writer's demoes on the CD. Which is still crazy, but almost not (Smooth) Criminal.
 
There's a paper with these songs listed on it:

Ask The Lonely - Four Tops
Baby I Need Your Loving - Four Tops
Reach Out I'll Be There - Four Tops
In Da Club - 50 Cent
Got Some Reeth - Obie Trice
California Love - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Explicit) - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Clean) - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Instrumental) - Dr Dre

Remember how Damien Shields said that there were at least 3 songs from Neff-U's sessions that sounded like Dr Dre's The Watcher and 50 Cent's In Da Club? This could be more indication of what sound MJ wanted to head for.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
And lol. If MJ actually knew about the Casio tracks. Maybe even signed off on them? Then they basically put writer's demoes on the CD. Which is still crazy, but almost not (Smooth) Criminal.
Click to expand...
Which means that if "Breaking News" was intended for Michael, then it'd rank up with some of the worst material MJ has ever recorded. Imagining MJ himself singing in the third person is really embarassing to think about.
 
ChanceToDance said:
There's a paper with these songs listed on it:

Ask The Lonely - Four Tops
Baby I Need Your Loving - Four Tops
Reach Out I'll Be There - Four Tops
In Da Club - 50 Cent
Got Some Reeth - Obie Trice
California Love - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Explicit) - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Clean) - Dr Dre
The Watcher (Instrumental) - Dr Dre

Remember how Damien Shields said that there were at least 3 songs from Neff-U's sessions that sounded like Dr Dre's The Watcher and 50 Cent's In Da Club? This could be more indication of what sound MJ wanted to head for.
Click to expand...
This was definitely MJ's sonic influence. Catchy, hip hop hooks and those classic 2000s beats. And of course vintage vocal harmonies.
 
ChanceToDance said:
Also worth mentioning that there's a CD with the titles Unbelieavable, Owner Of A Lonely Heart, Satisfaction and Money For Nothing written on it.
Click to expand...
These are maybe more past references. OOALH was a huge sample element for HIStory, D.S in particular. Maybe they referred to more upcoming material too.
 
SeriousFX said:
Which means that if "Breaking News" was intended for Michael, then it'd rank up with some of the worst material MJ has ever recorded. Imagining MJ himself singing in the third person is really embarassing to think about.
Click to expand...
Nah. The worst part about BN is hearing a guy that clearly isn't MJ singing about being MJ. I mean, that song isn't even included in these items right? So we don't even have to discuss it. But it wouldn't have been that bad if he had at least sang it.
 
Last edited:
AlwaysThere said:
Just found a link to the court filings. There’s some very interesting items included, including an astonishing number of CDs. Highlights:
  • “Throwin’ Your Life Away” (p. 7)
  • “Earth Love,” dated April 22, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 8)
  • “Dancing for Love - RedOne” (p. 12)
  • “Ready 2 Win,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 15)
  • “Love Heals - MJ Neff-U New Funk” (p. 16)
  • “Ron great industrial age song” (p. 18)
  • “Breath” (p. 25)
  • “All Right,” written in another person’s handwriting (p. 29)
  • “Dance MJ McKellar” (p. 32)
  • “Heaven With a Smile,” dated April 17, 2009 and written in another person’s handwriting (p. 40)
  • “Song #4 - 1.2.6 Bible,” dated May 16, 2007 and written in the same handwriting as the miscellaneous CDs sold by Frank Cascio (p. 48)
  • “Ghost of Another Lover,” dated April 29, 2009, written in another person’s handwriting, and containing two mixes (“Mix 7 with Intro” and “Mix 4 No Intro”) (p. 52)
There’s also a slightly blurry picture of 35 additional CDs (p. 72), among which you can see the titles “Hollywood Tonight,” “Throwin’ Your Life Away,” “Miami Vice” (could be in relation to the TV series), and “Broken Chair.” Additionally, there are an extra set of lyrics for “You Were There” (p. 78):

You were there for the good times and the bad
When I’ve lost all that I had
You were there to have, to hold
When the world all came together
Trying to take away my soul
When the walls came down on me
You were there when the walls came tumbling down
Click to expand...
Man, more stuff just keeps popping up.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
This is definitely MJ's sonic influence. Catchy, hip hop hooks and those classic 2000s beats. And of course vintage vocal harmonies.
Click to expand...
I've listened to some of the songs, Got Some Teeth sounds a lot like in Da Club and The Watcher so it's definitely what he based on while making his own songs with Neff-U. Baby I Need You definitely has those classic MJ vocal harmonies lol.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top