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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

ChanceToDance said:
Btw can anyone ask Damien to give more details about World Of Candy? Like if it has vocals and such? All he's ever said about it is that it's a "children's song" that's unfinished.
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it seems like he has no clear informations about this song
But maybe an interesting question to ask him : What about the Invincible outtakes The Pain, Pressure and Seduction ?
 
Derek1984 said:
CLHGA is a homage to James Brown. Listen to that beat and it's a James Brown song, just as New Jack Swing.
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I wonder, is the beat from 'Can't Let Her Get Away' in any way sampled from James Brown's 'Say It Loud..' or the Commodores maybe?

I think Teddy's song 'Is It Good For You' was mostly inspired by CLHGA:
 
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Unlike a lot of hip hop productions at the time, new jack swing utilised heavy drum machine sounds, often using the SP-1200 sampler and Roland TR-808 drum machine with a particularly dominant snare. The programmed hi-hats were often played in 16th note triplets, a particular trademark of Riley’s that gave a distinctive swing to the feel, while additional synthesised percussion was often also featured to add body to the rhythm. Interestingly, while in conversation with the Red Bull Music Academy, Riley revealed that he never used a sequencer to program beats. Instead, he would play along with track, laying the drum machine parts down like any other instrument. “That’s why it took so long for a lot of these records to come out,” said Riley. “‘Cause I didn’t have a sequencer, and when I finally got a sequencer, it didn’t work right for me. It didn’t have the off and on swing that I wanted.”

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Producer Focus: Teddy Riley - Mixdown Magazine

Riley would grow to define the sound and reinvigorate contemporary R&B and hip hop, leading to major hits by the likes of Michael Jackson, Blackstreet, Keith Sweat and Bobby Brown. No music is made in a bubble, however, and the tendency to credit Riley with entirely creating the new jack swing...
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Alec said:
Dieter Wiesner's book details all the plans for 2001-2003. No music, but tons of other projects.

I highly recommend the book. My favorite trivia: the house in Las Vegas Michael was staying at when he got arrested was... the same house he rented when he returned to the U.S. after the trial (!).

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And is the same house that the Liberace foundation had his museum there, which had MJ stuff in when they moved in. And MJ left all his court doc's there from second trail which happens to be in the hands of LF now that estate didn't seem to fussed about picking them up. True story. MJ apparently liked the house as it has a secret underground tunnel that's not in the council plans and was good from a security perspective. If the museum is going, it's well worth the visit from the MJ perspective alone.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Unlike a lot of hip hop productions at the time, new jack swing utilised heavy drum machine sounds, often using the SP-1200 sampler and Roland TR-808 drum machine with a particularly dominant snare. The programmed hi-hats were often played in 16th note triplets, a particular trademark of Riley’s that gave a distinctive swing to the feel, while additional synthesised percussion was often also featured to add body to the rhythm. Interestingly, while in conversation with the Red Bull Music Academy, Riley revealed that he never used a sequencer to program beats. Instead, he would play along with track, laying the drum machine parts down like any other instrument. “That’s why it took so long for a lot of these records to come out,” said Riley. “‘Cause I didn’t have a sequencer, and when I finally got a sequencer, it didn’t work right for me. It didn’t have the off and on swing that I wanted.”

mixdownmag.com.au

Producer Focus: Teddy Riley - Mixdown Magazine

Riley would grow to define the sound and reinvigorate contemporary R&B and hip hop, leading to major hits by the likes of Michael Jackson, Blackstreet, Keith Sweat and Bobby Brown. No music is made in a bubble, however, and the tendency to credit Riley with entirely creating the new jack swing...
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I particulary wondered about the beat itself, not the instrumentation. Because you hear MJ beatboxing CLHGA in the leaked studio clip and I am curious if Teddy was inspired by MJ's rhythm for this song or if he used this exact beat (break sample) before. It sounds so 'MJ' and is also reminiscent of the beatbox fragment of 'Tabloid Junkie' from the Sawyer interview
 
Victorious said:
I particulary wondered about the beat itself, not the instrumentation. Because you hear MJ beatboxing CLHGA in the leaked studio clip and I am curious if Teddy was inspired by MJ's rhythm for this song or if he used this exact beat (break sample) before. It sounds so 'MJ' and is also reminiscent of the beatbox fragment of 'Tabloid Junkie' from the Sawyer interview
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Well, Michael’s beatboxing sure adds a ton to the overall feel of the rhythm.
 
I'm hyped for Adore You simply because it's the song from the 2000's that's the most likely to leak, there's people out there with the song in hand and there's probably a seminar recording as well? I'm not sure. Maybe it'll leak eventually. Though if the song is amongst one of Brad Buxer's favorites it has to be a really good song.
 
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Victorious said:
I particulary wondered about the beat itself, not the instrumentation. Because you hear MJ beatboxing CLHGA in the leaked studio clip and I am curious if Teddy was inspired by MJ's rhythm for this song or if he used this exact beat (break sample) before. It sounds so 'MJ' and is also reminiscent of the beatbox fragment of 'Tabloid Junkie' from the Sawyer interview
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“This was mostly from a sample CD that I just put together myself, and it kind of reminded me of the James Brown sound. I could feel it. I thought I’d bring a shadow of some of the greatness of the James Brown production sound to this. I made the sample CD myself – that was me playing instruments, then looping them up and having them lying around for potential projects. Back then I just had them lying around and I hadn’t used them… But I really wanted to use them! Throughout the album I was drawing off a lot of CDs I had hanging around, all played by myself. I’m a multi-instrumentalist."

- Teddy Riley
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
“This was mostly from a sample CD that I just put together myself, and it kind of reminded me of the James Brown sound. I could feel it. I thought I’d bring a shadow of some of the greatness of the James Brown production sound to this. I made the sample CD myself – that was me playing instruments, then looping them up and having them lying around for potential projects. Back then I just had them lying around and I hadn’t used them… But I really wanted to use them! Throughout the album I was drawing off a lot of CDs I had hanging around, all played by myself. I’m a multi-instrumentalist."

- Teddy Riley
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Yes!
 
Adore You is a scratch demo Monster is my n1 song to listen to it if it get Leaked one day and Craze is the most interesting one with Monster
 
ChanceToDance said:
The second one sounds a lot similar to Speechless. Where were those shown?
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It seems that they re-edited the first video and they're gonna edit the 2nd as well plus a 3rd new part that they're going to release. It seems that they added stuff in the background. Also they said that they don't own Jungle City and they wouldn't leak the full thing out of respect to the producers.
 
NetflexKingGR said:
Hello guys. Those 3 were played in the jackson.ch video. Do we have any info about them?

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If they aren't fanmade, then my predictions are:
-First one is most likely Blue Powder
-Second is probably the original 1999 instrumental to I Have This Dream. Otherwise, it's an unknown song
-Third is most likely Thank Heaven
 
My top 12 picks in the most wanted category are:
Water, Dark Lady, Adore You, Rocker, Boy No, Buffalo Bill, Victory, Lady Of Summer, Michael McKellar, Remember What I Told You, Monster and Innocent Man.
All of this is just based on pure hype coming from people who heard it or who worked on it and I would sell my body for them, whatever that means is up to your fantasy…

And further more I would sell my body a second time to hear a high quality version of the “ ghost from another lover“ demo
Also still super intrigued by ”Jane is a groupie” I love what we have but what is it if that is all that it was meant to be... odd!

And last but not least. I’d sell my now worn out body for the third time to listen to Michael’s classical ideas/recordings.
 
SeriousFX said:
If they aren't fanmade, then my predictions are:
-First one is most likely Blue Powder
-Second is probably the original 1999 instrumental to I Have This Dream. Otherwise, it's an unknown song
-Third is most likely Thank Heaven
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I'm trying to translate the part where jackson.ch shows the second snippet and he says something about The Way You Love Me and Beautiful Girl, perhaps it's a snippet of an early version of one of those 2? Someone should ask the uploader what those songs are. One thing I'm certain though, with those harmonies it's definitely a Brad Buxer song.
 
SeriousFX said:
If they aren't fanmade, then my predictions are:
-First one is most likely Blue Powder
-Second is probably the original 1999 instrumental to I Have This Dream. Otherwise, it's an unknown song
-Third is most likely Thank Heaven
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I also think that the first is Blue Powder.
The second one sounds indeed a little bit like I Have This Dream
Could the third one be "Adore You"?
 
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