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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
Did MJ ever care to extensively rework a song, to the point of changing the music entirely? It seems the most he ever did was let another producer add a spin to it, or perhaps change the genre, but never actually. Remove the music and add new music with his vocals. He certainly never came up with lyrics and then they made a song based off that. Or did they? Vocal melodies usually accompanied the instrumentals.
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Also Dangerous and the Westlake mix of Streetwalker?


MJ throughout his life (and especially towards his later years) was working extensively on his decades-old demos, maybe he made some extensive changes on them that we'll probably never know.
 
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Also where do I find a genuine good quality video of the full length of Ghosts?
 
ChanceToDance said:
Also Dangerous and the Westlake mix of Streetwalker?


MJ throughout his life (and especially towards his later years) was working extensively on his decades-old demos, maybe he made some extensive changes on them that we'll probably never know.
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That's still only a couple of songs. I agree that it fits the criteria, but, he never really did what they did with Xscape, is my point. The song oftentimes maintained their identity from beginning to end.
 
Pentum said:
Right. Thing is, there are quite a few songs he reworked, or intended to at least, noted on the final notes found in his bedroom. I wonder if any of those ended up being changed drastically
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Hmm I found MJ to be extremely conservative tbh, with songs that got reworked over and over again (like APWNN) there wasn't that much difference in the end too
 
Pentum said:
Right. Thing is, there are quite a few songs he reworked, or intended to at least, noted on the final notes found in his bedroom. I wonder if any of those ended up being changed drastically
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I really need to know what he did with GOAL in 2009 and how much he went further with the song. It's one of the best MJ unreleased songs out there.
 
Victorious said:
Hmm I found MJ to be extremely conservative tbh, with songs that got reworked over and over again (like APWNN) there wasn't that much difference in the end too
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Tbh, I don't blame him because most of his demos/initial ideas were already genius. Like he said, he had already heard it all in his mind, so surely, changing the song completly, would rather result in another demo he'd create, meaning 2 completely different songs. I think that's how he continued to make music as well
 
Pentum said:
Tbh, I don't blame him because most of his demos/initial ideas were already genius. Like he said, he had already heard it all in his mind, so surely, changing the song completly, would rather result in another demo he'd create, meaning 2 completely different songs. I think that's how he continued to make music as well
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Ala "Streetwalker" into "Dangerous"... Save for the bass line. And even that had a tempo change.
 
Note to most people reading this thread: Those claiming to know about unheard songs, don’t know anything. They are making it up & continuing the trend of misinformation when the thread is directly made to stop this.
 
AdeZ said:
I've said it before and i'll say it again, no there is NOT a more finished version of 'In The Back'.

Yes, there is a longer version, but really all it is, is just the song with it's uncut instrumental, its just the song but without the fade out, and there's nothing too special about it at all.

All the rumors that there's a more finished version are just lies.
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I'll take your word for it, thanx!
However it remains weird that Buxer would consider this (imo pretty lame) demo without any lyrics as one of his best songs
 
AdeZ said:
All the rumors that there's a more finished version are just lies.
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According to Brad Buxer there might be:
“In the Back” is one of Jackson’s most impressive unreleased tracks from the 1990s. Atmospheric and hypnotic, it recalls Jackson’s Dangerous-era masterpiece “Who Is It” (and touches on similar themes of betrayal). The track begins with an ominous, thudding beat, accented by Jackson’s vocal percussion. Jackson sings and scats his way through the vocal (which was left finished). Brad Buxer pointed out that he spent years developing the song—first during the HIStory sessions, then for Blood on the Dance Floor, and finally for Invincible.

What begins as a minimalist groove gradually unfolds into an intricate and ethereal sonic canvas—lush strings, an entrancing harp, and a mournful trumpet. Buxer described the track as “unbelievable and it proves once again how Michael was a genius. I play almost every instrument on this song, but all [the] ideas are Michael.” The 1997 demo, recorded in Switzerland, was released on Michael Jackson: The Ultimate Collection in 2004.
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Unless you mean that version with the uncut instrumental is the version from Invincible?
 
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Fuzball said:
Even in its demo state, it's easy to see what the song could have become had it been finished.
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Yes but in that case I don't know what the fuss is with this song, one of his favourites..? Nice synths but the rest sounds pretty boring (to me IMHO), both musically and thematically
 
Victorious said:
Yes but in that case I don't know what the fuss is with this song, one of his favourites..? Nice synths but the rest sounds pretty boring (to me IMHO), both musically and thematically
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It's like a smooth piece of jazz, it's got a great rhythm..the hook is also nice. It feels fully formed even without lyrics.
 
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