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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Alec said:
Yes, it's great! When in his final TV interview Michael said he likes to "put sounds under the microscope and manipulate their character," he was speaking of these type of songs. It's a great insight into his imagination. It's like a musical sculpture.

From the songs discussed here recently, I also heard Monster (two different versions--different choruses). It's not as innovative as people make it out to be, at least not the demos I heard. No relation to the Cascio Monster whatsoever, but the music is fairly similar in style. That's the vibe. I wouldn't be surprised if the Cascios knew it and based theirs on Michael's. Apparently Michael was showing it off to people in his final years. I believe Harrison Funk, the photographer, said Michael played it to him before he died.
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I have some very serious questions about the real Monster. Are there any instrumental similarities with Threatened? I found information that this song would have evolved into Threatened. And that DeVante Swing would have worked on Monster.
 
The MJJ Library said:
Can someone give me a recap about what we know about Tomboy?
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# Tomboy

John Barnes - Facebook 2016

'' 'Tomboy' is a classic mid-'80s, complete with synthesizer drums, lovely strings, a nice guitar riff, and slap bass reminiscent of the 'Captain EO' soundtrack. The song also features a subtle 'ba-da-ba-da-bab-bab' melody which is almost identical to the 'I bet you remember' one in 'Remember the Time,' released on Michael Jackson's 'Dangerous' album six years later.

"Roger played well on Tomboy, but the song was just okay, in my opinion. Michael liked it, but it didn't hold up in comparison to the other music that was available for 'Bad'."..


In the Xscape Origins book,

The song "Tomboy" is described as complete with synth drums, gorgeous strings, and a great guitar riff. A good song by John Barnes, but not enough for the Bad album.

Matt Forger - 2012


"I worked on "Tomboy". It's a very funny subject. Very rhythmic, with lots of character and energy. I remember this song very well and I don't know if it came out somehow..."
"However, “Tomboy” was pretty complete in my opinion, but I’m not 100% sure. This is a fantastic topic and I really hope it gets covered at some point."
 
Gluepix said:
I’m curious, how well does Water (as well as those other instrumentals made near the time of his death) hold up to today’s music in terms of production? Does it sound like the kind of music that’s being made today or is it a product of its time?
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It all sounds like HIStory era MJ production-wise, just more melodic and more pop. So neither of its time (mid-late 2000s) nor current (2020s). Very neutral and timeless instrumentation, not dated.
SmoothMel7 said:
I have some very serious questions about the real Monster. Are there any instrumental similarities with Threatened? I found information that this song would have evolved into Threatened. And that DeVante Swing would have worked on Monster.
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They're nothing alike. ZERO similarities. The Cascio "Monster" is the most similar.
SmoothGangsta said:
Yeah I think that's possible. I had it in my head that he worked on it before MJ died but wasn't sure if I was mixing it up with something else or not.
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Michael worked on it with Neff-U before his death and they added overdubs to a cassette rip of a version from the 1980s. The rip is slightly different than the version played by Sundberg and has complete vocals all the way through.
 
Alec said:
Michael worked on it with Neff-U before his death and they added overdubs to a cassette rip of a version from the 1980s. The rip is slightly different than the version played by Sundberg and has complete vocals all the way through.
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I remember reading a comment of yours from a while ago and you said that they added synth overdubs on the song, right? That the song sounded more retro. I wonder if Neff-U used that version for his remix made for the Michael album instead of the 1988 mix.
 
Alec said:
They're nothing alike. ZERO similarities. The Cascio "Monster" is the most similar.
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Thanks for your feedback ! Have you heard any other new songs? Do you know if there are any unreleased songs with Babyface? There are rumors about songs "Angel" and "Do You Love Me" without any sources.
 
So throwing your life away have more vocals we did not heard it yet ?
Alec said:
It all sounds like HIStory era MJ production-wise, just more melodic and more pop. So neither of its time (mid-late 2000s) nor current (2020s). Very neutral and timeless instrumentation, not dated.

They're nothing alike. ZERO similarities. The Cascio "Monster" is the most similar.

Michael worked on it with Neff-U before his death and they added overdubs to a cassette rip of a version from the 1980s. The rip is slightly different than the version played by Sundberg and has complete vocals all the way through.
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SmoothMel7 said:
# Tomboy

John Barnes - Facebook 2016

'' 'Tomboy' is a classic mid-'80s, complete with synthesizer drums, lovely strings, a nice guitar riff, and slap bass reminiscent of the 'Captain EO' soundtrack. The song also features a subtle 'ba-da-ba-da-bab-bab' melody which is almost identical to the 'I bet you remember' one in 'Remember the Time,' released on Michael Jackson's 'Dangerous' album six years later.

"Roger played well on Tomboy, but the song was just okay, in my opinion. Michael liked it, but it didn't hold up in comparison to the other music that was available for 'Bad'."..


In the Xscape Origins book,

The song "Tomboy" is described as complete with synth drums, gorgeous strings, and a great guitar riff. A good song by John Barnes, but not enough for the Bad album.

Matt Forger - 2012


"I worked on "Tomboy". It's a very funny subject. Very rhythmic, with lots of character and energy. I remember this song very well and I don't know if it came out somehow..."
"However, “Tomboy” was pretty complete in my opinion, but I’m not 100% sure. This is a fantastic topic and I really hope it gets covered at some point."
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Did Michael record lead vocals for it?
 
Jackson Unreleased 69 said:
Is fake Theappleheadmj once again trying to do a AI Project and put this is a seminar to actually think that is real while we know it sounds like GYWOOM
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Yes. That what I thought in beginning after that the doubt started spreading to my mind thanks for help
 
Wasn't Be Me 4 A Day first worked on during Bad and then reworked for Invincible?
 
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