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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
How is the actual film remastered "fake HD" but a likely AI restoration "the real deal"? Just sounds salty. And this has nothing to do with unreleased tracks too.
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I Never said it’s “the real deal” I said it looks way better. Also the official upload is no film scan and not remastered. It’s a tape source. The one from WOWOW is way better and actually looks like a film scan.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
In that case, can't they do that for the OTW clips? And Billie Jean?
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Depends on each case. For example, Ghosts was released once. The OTW videos and BJ were included on various releases over the years.
You have to remember tape degradation is a thing and these I mentioned seem to have been dubbed numerous times.
 
AdeZ said:
I heard of a hacker having them, but when he got arrested nearly a decade ago the police seized his harddrives which well... even included that one.

Now someone needs to hit up the lawyers for that multitrack LOL. RIP Tabloid Junkie.
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It's most likely out there, given how there's a Tabloid Junkie instrumental with BGVs out there whose authenticity as a purported "alternate mix" is disputed.
 
AdeZ said:
I heard of a hacker having them, but when he got arrested nearly a decade ago the police seized his harddrives which well... even included that one.

Now someone needs to hit up the lawyers for that multitrack LOL. RIP Tabloid Junkie.
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I read that you heard song called world of candy .and you have song called changes .is that true ?
 
MJbr2 said:
Depends on each case. For example, Ghosts was released once. The OTW videos and BJ were included on various releases over the years.
You have to remember tape degradation is a thing and these I mentioned seem to have been dubbed numerous times.
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That maybe is a significant deterrent.
 
I don't why but I have this feeling that there is a lot material from Michael that the Estate has no idea about. He was sporadic at best when it came to cataloguing stuff, I wouldn't be shocked if more stuff will be discovered.

Also I'd assume collaborators are holding stuff back, similar to Darkchild with Xscape
 
SmoothCriminal1995 said:
I don't why but I have this feeling that there is a lot material from Michael that the Estate has no idea about. He was sporadic at best when it came to cataloguing stuff, I wouldn't be shocked if more stuff will be discovered.

Also I'd assume collaborators are holding stuff back, similar to Darkchild with Xscape
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Yes. For exemple dream away .we never knew that title before
 
I have a question regarding the song “This Is It”, I know this was figured out prob a while ago but the one from Paul Anka’s “Duets” album is different from the “This Is It” soundtrack. What I am assuming is that the one from Paul Anka is a remix of the demo and the one from the soundtrack is a remix of a later recorded version not from Thriller. Am I correct?
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
I have a question regarding the song “This Is It”, I know this was figured out prob a while ago but the one from Paul Anka’s “Duets” album is different from the “This Is It” soundtrack. What I am assuming is that the one from Paul Anka is a remix of the demo and the one from the soundtrack is a remix of a later recorded version not from Thriller. Am I correct?
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Paul Anka’s version uses the same vocal take, however, there are additional vocals and adlibs to that song that have not leaked.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
I have a question regarding the song “This Is It”, I know this was figured out prob a while ago but the one from Paul Anka’s “Duets” album is different from the “This Is It” soundtrack. What I am assuming is that the one from Paul Anka is a remix of the demo and the one from the soundtrack is a remix of a later recorded version not from Thriller. Am I correct?
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Not the one form Paul Anka is a finished version the demo is different it have Paul and Michael on it but the instrumental is not like the one that Paul Released on his album the one form the estate is a Michael solo version that he did himself when he took the tape form Anka and copy on it before he give it back to him
 
Hollywood_Tonight said:
Paul Anka’s version uses the same vocal take, however, there are additional vocals and adlibs to that song that have not leaked.
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Are you sure? They don’t really sound the same. Paul Anka’s version matches with the demo snippet we have, while the solo one doesn’t.
 
This Is It is the only one to have multitracks. The version the estate had was a tape from MJs posessions that they overdubbed. Perhaps an alt recording and not just a copy?

LNFSG of course had no such multitracks.
 
AlwaysThere said:
Seems as though multiple different takes of “This Is It” were made. I’ve theorized that MJ re-recorded it solo and retitled it (hence why Greg Phillinganes was credited as pianist).
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I agree. I don’t know when “This Is It” was recorded again, potentially around 2009 or Dangerous sessions I feel like, but either way prob not Thriller. The remix that Paul Anka released is the Thriller Demo and then idk any other versions.
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
There was only 3 tracks from the Anka Sessions right?

This Is It, given away to Sa-Fire as I Never Heard
Love Never Felt So Good which was given to Johnny Mathis
And Don't Matter to Me, which may not even be a whole song?
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yes. I wish that the This Is It demo and Don’t Matter to Me were featured on Thriller 40. It was a perfect opportunity.
SmoothGangsta said:
The demo that Paul played on TV is definitely a different recording
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yes, during his live concerts they were Michael’s demo vocals. It matches with the demo but for some reason the part that Michael sings after Paul is pitched down which I think is weird because in the demo snippet we have leaked, it is regular pitch. Idk why they bother to do that.
 
Sawyer Grubb said:
I agree. I don’t know when “This Is It” was recorded again, potentially around 2009 or Dangerous sessions I feel like, but either way prob not Thriller. The remix that Paul Anka released is the Thriller Demo and then idk any other versions.
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Definitely not 2009. I doubt he re-recorded it anytime after the Thriller era. He probably recorded a demo with Paul Anka in 1980, and then revisited it in 1983. Hence the community’s confusion with regard to the year of recording.
Sawyer Grubb said:
yes, during his live concerts they were Michael’s demo vocals. It matches with the demo but for some reason the part that Michael sings after Paul is pitched down which I think is weird because in the demo snippet we have leaked, it is regular pitch. Idk why they bother to do that.
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Probably in order to make it easier for Paul to sing it.
 
I have question about solider entrance .it was registered .did anyone have info if it was recorded
 
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