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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

Derek1984 said:
Wish we could get more info from Carole Bayer Sager regarding "Goin to Rio".
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I remember that she was already asked about this title and she said that she didn't know this title at all. I'll have to find this interview again, I'm pretty sure.
There is also a rumor that Paulinho Da Costa mentioned this title, but I never found it.
 
SmoothMel7 said:
I remember that she was already asked about this title and she said that she didn't know this title at all. I'll have to find this interview again, I'm pretty sure.
There is also a rumor that Paulinho Da Costa mentioned this title, but I never found it.
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I think Mike was asked about the song in the Mexico Deposition in 93, he was asked "Goin' to Rio"? and Mike replied "Going where?" 😅
 
It sounds cool, but something tells me this was AI-generated with Jukebox....
 
Question, two things actually

1. Was This Is It gonna go to other continents like Australia, Japan, and North America? Im reading in articles that that was supposed to be the plan

2. What news source treated/said the best things about Michael or at least was the least nosy ones (Ex: NBC, LA Times, ABC)
 
threepea11 said:
Was This Is It gonna go to other continents like Australia, Japan, and North America? Im reading in articles that that was supposed to be the plan
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According to Jermaine Jackson's book, and other sources I guess, that was allegedly the plan. In 2011. Among, other things, a new album, a reunion tour with the Jackson's, and a new Superbowl halftime show to top his very first one.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
According to Jermaine Jackson's book, and other sources I guess, that was allegedly the plan. In 2011. Among, other things, a new album, a reunion tour with the Jackson's, and a new Superbowl halftime show to top his very first one.
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One thing about Jermaine……he’s gonna make sure to include a reunion tour.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
According to Jermaine Jackson's book, and other sources I guess, that was allegedly the plan. In 2011. Among, other things, a new album, a reunion tour with the Jackson's, and a new Superbowl halftime show to top his very first one.
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Oh **** yea. That Super Bowl half time would have been the greatest period
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I think it would've happened lol. Not anything exciting though.
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Really? I enjoyed their performances during the 30th Anniversary but I think that's when it should've taken place since Michael didn't plan one for Invincible
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
According to Jermaine Jackson's book, and other sources I guess, that was allegedly the plan. In 2011. Among, other things, a new album, a reunion tour with the Jackson's, and a new Superbowl halftime show to top his very first one.
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Michael also spoke about recording three (?) new songs with his brothers in a radio interview
 
Was the new album gonna be like Xscape? I’d honestly doubt he’d come back with a classical music album imo
 
Derek1984 said:
Wish we could get more info from Carole Bayer Sager regarding "Goin to Rio".
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SmoothMel7 said:
I remember that she was already asked about this title and she said that she didn't know this title at all. I'll have to find this interview again, I'm pretty sure.
There is also a rumor that Paulinho Da Costa mentioned this title, but I never found it.
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I found the interview with Carole Bayer Sager in a French magazine: Mjbackstage. She doesn't know "Goin' To Rio".



MJB. Some specialized websites credit you with collaborating on a title titled I Go To RIO…

CBS. That doesn't mean anything to me...

MJB. It is also rumored that you collaborated on a song called Stop The War. Can you tell us more?

CBS. Ouhhh… I think this song is actually We’ve Had Enough. We wrote this song with Rodney Jerkins around the time of Invincible, the album that marked my last professional collaboration with Michael. Besides, I don’t know if you know this but he dedicated this album to me. I believe he did it out of gratitude for introducing him to Rodney Jerkins.

MJB. So this song was originally called Stop The War but it was then retitled to We’ve Had Enough, is that right? Did you work on this song in two different periods?

CBS. No, we planned to put this track on the Invincible album. When we wrote the song, Michael wanted to include it on his album, but he didn't choose it. I wasn't there when he recorded his vocals on the track. But, as you know, Michael was always very interested in what was happening in the world, and he was involved in making change. The song is about that.




Interview de Carole Bayer Sager – MJBackstage

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threepea11 said:
Was the new album gonna be like Xscape? I’d honestly doubt he’d come back with a classical music album imo
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It would've been like Michael but more polished. Without the Casio tracks or the random outtakes from the prior album sessions.
 
threepea11 said:
Was the new album gonna be like Xscape? I’d honestly doubt he’d come back with a classical music album imo
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We don't know what it would have been like. He also wasn't gonna release an album straight away and was going to release singles and then make them an album later.

Obviously it's not a 100 percent indication of what he would have released, but I think looking at the list in his bedroom can give you good idea of what he was looking to have worked on.

I also very much doubt the whole reunion album with his brothers thing. I think it was pretty clear that MJ was not interested.
 
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Victorious said:
Here he is in 1999 talking about a reunion album with his brothers, at 0:52
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MJ often said he was doing or was going to do something when he really had no interest in actually doing it. I think the many times that the brothers tried to get MJ back with them on a record and it not happening speaks for itself.

Also as a side note I'm not entirely sure what MJ saying something in 1999 has to do with what I said.
 
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Victorious said:
Here he is in 1999 talking about a reunion album with his brothers, at 0:52
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He was likely referring to the Jacksons scrapped "Humanity" album as they probably had plans to release it later. Here's some context from the letter sent to Jermaine from MJJ dated May 22nd, 1995 with an intended release of third quarter 1996

"In accordance with our previous conversations, this letter shall serve to confirm our commitment as(to) you regarding the permission of Michael Jackson on THE "JACKSON HUMANITY ALBUM." PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS LETTER IS INTENDED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF YOUR INVESTOR REGARDING THE PARTICIPATION OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE JACKSON FAMILY, INCLUDING MICHAEL JACKSON...up to two (2) songs be included on the described album, it being understood and agreed that the vocal performance by Michael Jackson may be as a solo or featured performer or as a member of a group and that we shall have approval of all elements of the recordings."
 
SmoothGangsta said:
MJ often said he was doing or was going to do something when he really had no interest in actually doing it.
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Did he? Do you have some examples?

SmoothGangsta said:
I think the many times that the brothers tried to get MJ back with them on a record and it not happening speaks for itself.
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Well there could be a lot of other things than a lack of interest, logistical reasons mainly.

SmoothGangsta said:
Also as a side not I'm not entirely sure what MJ saying something in 1999 has to do with what I said.
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I reacted to this sentence, I'm sorry if you meant something different by it:

'I also very much doubt the whole reunion album with his brothers thing. I think it was pretty clear that MJ was not interested.'
 
BlackAnon said:
He was likely referring to the Jacksons scrapped "Humanity" album as they probably had plans to release it later. Here's some context from the letter sent to Jermaine from MJJ dated May 22nd, 1995 with an intended release of third quarter 1996

"In accordance with our previous conversations, this letter shall serve to confirm our commitment as(to) you regarding the permission of Michael Jackson on THE "JACKSON HUMANITY ALBUM." PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS LETTER IS INTENDED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF YOUR INVESTOR REGARDING THE PARTICIPATION OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE JACKSON FAMILY, INCLUDING MICHAEL JACKSON...up to two (2) songs be included on the described album, it being understood and agreed that the vocal performance by Michael Jackson may be as a solo or featured performer or as a member of a group and that we shall have approval of all elements of the recordings."
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I also feel like this album was scrapped in 96 due to Michael touring for HIStory. I know they worked on a few songs but I wonder how far the songs progressed before being scrapped completely.
 
BlackAnon said:
I also feel like this album was scrapped in 96 due to Michael touring for HIStory. I know they worked on a few songs but I wonder how far the songs progressed before being scrapped completely.
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There was a rumor of a song between MJ and Randy. But I remember that it never happened
 
BlackAnon said:
I also feel like this album was scrapped in 96 due to Michael touring for HIStory. I know they worked on a few songs but I wonder how far the songs progressed before being scrapped completely.
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But don't you agree he is talking very specifically about three cuts, in 1999:
 
Victorious said:
But don't you agree he is talking very specifically about three cuts, in 1999:
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Which brings us back the obligation letter sent to Jermaine from MJJ from 1995…he agreed up to 2 songs for Humanity

"In accordance with our previous conversations, this letter shall serve to confirm our commitment as(to) you regarding the permission of Michael Jackson on THE "JACKSON HUMANITY ALBUM." PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS LETTER IS INTENDED TO SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT OF YOUR INVESTOR REGARDING THE PARTICIPATION OF CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE JACKSON FAMILY, INCLUDING MICHAEL JACKSON...up to two (2) songs be included on the described album, it being understood and agreed that the vocal performance by Michael Jackson may be as a solo or featured performer or as a member of a group and that we shall have approval of all elements of the recordings."
 
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