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Am I tripping...... this is from home alone 2 when Kevin & his mother were saying goodnight....Pretty sure this is in the footage that leaked from Brad
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Am I tripping...... this is from home alone 2 when Kevin & his mother were saying goodnight....Pretty sure this is in the footage that leaked from Brad
True, but record labels don’t obtain release agreements based on proposals. It’s similar to why some unreleased songs don’t get registered until shortly before their release (e.g., “Loving You,” “What a Lovely Way to Go”). Sony likely only started on paperwork once the track list was finalized.Hot Street was considered for T25. Michael rejected the proposed tracklist though.
Pure goldAccording to Bobby Taylor MJ asked him to write an old fashioned song for him and liked the demo. It doesn't seem anything of it was recorded by MJ though, Taylor's final vocals were sung on the day MJ passed away
One good piece of info and perspective Brad gave was that during dangerous, the constant arguing & rivalry between Loryen/Bottrell/Swedien and Teddy led to each one trying to out-do eachother.Interesting to get a glimpse of the rivalries and contentions between MJs collaborators. Maybe that's part of the reason he liked swapping out more and more often.
So Dreams appears to be a real songAnother list of songs from Dangerous.
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So Get Up and Jam aren't the same song. Very interesting.Another list of songs from Dangerous.
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This list comes from Shana Mangatal, she guessed the names of the titles after listening. She thinks Get Up is Jam. She listened to this tracklist with people working at Sony. It was apparently a great experience.So Get Up and Jam aren't the same song. Very interesting.
Are you saying Joy is a Teddy Riley track or are you referring to a different track?Joy not on this list, but again, probably a Teddy track that was a late recording that just didn't make the final cut.
"Serious Effect" and "Man In Black" seem to confirm that Teddy at least reworked these Bryan Loren cuts, given how Loren isn't listed as a producer anywhere.Another list of songs from Dangerous. Interesting to see Get Up on there when Shana first said it was Jam.
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I also noticed how Earth Song was called by its alternate title, "Planet Earth."There was a video that leaked from Brad's seminar during the late Dangerous sessions and MJ was singing Serious Effect. So that must have been a track that was close to making it on the album. Is there a more finished mix?
She Drives Me Wild, Can't Let Her Get Away, Why You Wanna Trip on Me, must have been late additions produced by Teddy that won out at the end. MJ must have wanted more uptempo New Jack songs on the album and Teddy came with the jelly. Joy not on this list, but again, probably a Teddy track that was a late recording that just didn't make the final cut.
I'm saying Joy was a Teddy Riley track.Are you saying Joy is a Teddy Riley track or are you referring to a different track?
Yes, but wasn’t this the initial concept of “Earth Song”? I remember reading it initially started out as simply a poem with instrumental accompaniment, then evolved into a fully fledged song during the Dangerous sessions.Planet Earth is a poem. Not the one from This Is It. There is a longer one.
It’s been long rumored that “Dreams” was intended for this Pepsi commercial but was replaced by WII, similar to what happened with POF. I assume it’s a fairly complete demo since it almost made the cut.Dreams is registered
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Also remember Michael's commercial was titled Dreams. Could the song have been replaced by Who Is It in this clip?
Alright. Well in that case, that's mostly not true. The song existed before Teddy got involved. It matured with his involvement though.I'm saying Joy was a Teddy Riley track.
Are you talking about Joy or Someone Put Your Hand Out? Because for the latter, that's 100% true.Alright. Well in that case, that's mostly not true. The song existed before Teddy got involved. It matured with his involvement though.
We're talking about Joy. Wasn't it a pre existing song? More uptempo before.Are you talking about Joy or Someone Put Your Hand Out? Because for the latter, that's 100% true.
It was more uptempo, but it was always a Teddy Riley original written by his close collaborator Tammy Lucas. You seem to be confusing Joy for Someone Put Your Hand Out, which was actually a pre-existing song that started out uptempo.We're talking about Joy. Wasn't it a pre existing song? More uptempo before.
More disco uptempo according to LeviWe're talking about Joy. Wasn't it a pre existing song? More uptempo before.
Did it? I always thought it was a Michael/Teddy collaboration but not in the same sense of SYPYHO where Michael originally wrote it and Teddy came in later to co-write a new versionAlright. Well in that case, that's mostly not true. The song existed before Teddy got involved. It matured with his involvement though.
Or, Dreams might have been the working title of Who is it ? as the latter title doesn’t appear in the track list posted above… Could they just be the same song, albeit in a different completion state maybe ? (just thinking out loud)Also remember Michael's commercial was titled Dreams. Could the song have been replaced by Who Is It in this clip?
Two totally different songs.Or, Dreams might have been the working title of Who is it ? as the latter title doesn’t paper in the track list posted above… Could they just be the same song, albeit in a different completion state maybe ? (just thinking out loud)
Ok , thanks for clearing it up. Is « dreams » listenable somewhere, in any form (writers demo etc), so it can be so positively ascertained ?Two totally different songs.
I think Shana said that “Get Up” is “Jam,” she just didn’t know the title and went based off the intro."Get Up" could be "Get Around"