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Not confirmation about the IWTL leak being real as far as I've seen. The chorus could easily just be edited with "Was" instead of "Is" bases on our knowledge of its existence. I'd love to be proven wrong however.And I Was The Loser.
@Beano Wild you made the claims. Can you verify?Not confirmation about the IWTL leak being real as far as I've seen. The chorus could easily just be edited with "Was" instead of "Is" bases on our knowledge of its existence. I'd love to be proven wrong however.
Works for me @Beano Wild@BeanoWild you made the claims. Can you verify?
Also how the heck do you @ people on iOS?
ok yeah it works. All of a sudden…Works for me @Beano Wild
Is there more you can say about it? Like the genre? The title tells me it could be a Gospel song tbh. And if it's a finished song did the Estate ever consider it for a release?It's a finished recording, never an album title.
So, assuming "Dirty Diana" and "Liberian Girl" were a part of those tracks, that would mean there's only 11 songs we don't know anything about.He's mentioned in an interview he's created 14 full masters with Michael during 1983/84 - some of them made it onto Bad. That's it.
Out of the songs that didn't make the album, we only have confirmation for Abortion Papers being from those sessions.
these sessions are probably MJs most interesting body of work that he has in the vault. Basically a full albums work of material that almost never gets talked aboutHe's mentioned in an interview he's created 14 full masters with Michael during 1983/84 - some of them made it onto Bad. That's it.
Out of the songs that didn't make the album, we only have confirmation for Abortion Papers being from those sessions.
It’s realNot confirmation about the IWTL leak being real as far as I've seen. The chorus could easily just be edited with "Was" instead of "Is" bases on our knowledge of its existence. I'd love to be proven wrong however.
Not confirmation about the IWTL leak being real as far as I've seen. The chorus could easily just be edited with "Was" instead of "Is" bases on our knowledge of its existence. I'd love to be proven wrong however.
Could be so. Probably Buffalo Bill, too.So, assuming "Dirty Diana" and "Liberian Girl" were a part of those tracks, that would mean there's only 11 songs we don't know anything about.
This one? Not the real deal.
Or this one?
Beano himself states it's based on a snippet and recreated.
More interestingly, so far Bottrell hasn't comfirmed or replied to this leak.Btw someone on MJLeaker's discord server said the leak of Turnin' Me Off is missing some verses, which would make it an incomplete leak. Is this true?
The hayvenhurst demos from that era aren’t even talked about. Everything we know we learned from Bill Wolfer. Imagine the stuff we don’t have from the Jacksons era. The only demo we have from them is Shake your bodyiirc there are more songs from Thriller that we don't know about than Bad
Everything I know is that everything MJ was working on, before and after the trial, it’s so incomplete/unfinished. Surprised he was still working on something after Invincible/WMCIGI thought this was common knowledge. It would've been out in 2004-2005. After the trial, he started rough ideas of Number 11. Unfortunately we can't see where he would've gone with those tracks
Around that time, Michael's also worked with John van Nest and Brent Averill.The hayvenhurst demos from that era aren’t even talked about. Everything we know we learned from Bill Wolfer.
We've got this untitled demo, called by fans "We Love You".Imagine the stuff we don’t have from the Jacksons era. The only demo we have from them is Shake your body
he hasn't been answering fan questions lately, including mineMore interestingly, so far Bottrell hasn't comfirmed or replied to this leak.![]()
Verses? I was thinking that it was a TYLA situation where the chorus repeats for another 4 minutes on loopBtw someone on MJLeaker's discord server said the leak of Turnin' Me Off is missing some verses, which would make it an incomplete leak. Is this true?
"That Girl" which was intended for Destiny, is probably pretty much complete.The hayvenhurst demos from that era aren’t even talked about. Everything we know we learned from Bill Wolfer. Imagine the stuff we don’t have from the Jacksons era. The only demo we have from them is Shake your body
I'm not surprised, he must be being asked things pretty relentlessly.he hasn't been answering fan questions lately, including mine
So what's the story? What's the source and what evidence do we have that it is real?It’s real
Thats exactly what I've been saying all along.
This one? Not the real deal.
Or this one?
Beano himself states it's based on a snippet and recreated. Let me add that Beano's recreation is no different in details besides the recreated instrumentation and sound quality. The song was only slightly touched up but the autotune was already applied in a reworked version of IAAL - that's not exclusive to the reworked chorus hook.
So what's the story? What's the source and what evidence do we have that it is real?
Thats exactly what I've been saying all along.
Beanos mix is based of an already faked IAAL chorus snippet where the "Was" is modified...
The real I Was A Loser still has not leaked
Fall Again little brother
So the song is a ballad? With that title I expected something edgier ngl. Or even gothic, in a similar vein as "Adore You".Fall Again little brother
I think they meant ‘Fall again little brother’ as in the same writerSo the song is a ballad? With that title I expected something edgier ngl. Or even gothic, in a similar vein as "Adore You".
There's Boy No, but that one needs work.Everything I know is that everything MJ was working on, before and after the trial, it’s so incomplete/unfinished. Surprised he was still working on something after Invincible/WMCIG
I guess All In Your Name was meant to be on that album
That one is high on my list. The recreations and snippets I’ve heard of it sound great.There's Boy No, but that one needs work.