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The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

BlackAnon said:
Off topic but I was reading some of Teddy's new book and he mentions he was supposed to be on the Bad album. Teddy mentioned this in earlier interviews as well and when Barnes and Sundberg saw the interview, this is what they said. This was about 7 or 8 years ago

THIS CLAIM IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! SO DISRESPECTFUL!!!. There really is not much to elaborate on or about. Teddy Riley was not involved in any way at that time. Everyone who was involved at that time will certainly confirm what I’m saying. I’m just disappointed in this behavior. - John Barnes

On a slightly more serious note, I don't ever recall Mr. Riley's name mentioned prior to the Dangerous project. Doesn't mean they didn't know each other, but the Bad team was clearly established. And yes, the story rings remarkably similar to Bill Bottrell's, which is factual. - Brad Sundberg
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Not really related to his absurd Bad album claim but he put a blatantly fake photo in that book of him and bad era MJ lmfaooo
 
Fuzball said:
^ Billboard, August 1978

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If I recall correctly, the song was recorded in 1977 for his shelved solo album. Other songs were High School Hope, Hide and Seek, Love Song for Kids, Honey Bee and Never in Public.
 
Not sure his numbers are correct but Teddy Riley says there is no unreleased tracks of him & MJ in the vault (starts after 2:15):

 
BlackAnon said:
How can he forget the song when he was on instagram live playing it for people even though it wasn't Michael singing?
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Same with the songs from the Michael album.
He can't remember anything anymore. The little crawlers have already nibbled at his brain. They blocked his ears so badly back then that he mistook Jason for Michael.
 
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Fuzball said:
Do you recall where these titles are sourced from?
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Janet and Randy were working on an album in 1977 that became Randy's solo project, hence the How Can I Be Sure release. It was to be released some time after 79 but Randy's accident stalled it.

Happy Moments
Words and Melodies
Love Song For Kids
Magic Carpet
What Would Mama Say
Half Steppin'
High School Hope
If I Surrender
Hide And Seek
Honey Bee
Never In Public
Find 'Em, Fool 'em, Forget 'em
I Won't Tell On You

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BlackAnon said:
Off topic but I was reading some of Teddy's new book and he mentions he was supposed to be on the Bad album. Teddy mentioned this in earlier interviews as well and when Barnes and Sundberg saw the interview, this is what they said. This was about 7 or 8 years ago

THIS CLAIM IS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE!!! SO DISRESPECTFUL!!!. There really is not much to elaborate on or about. Teddy Riley was not involved in any way at that time. Everyone who was involved at that time will certainly confirm what I’m saying. I’m just disappointed in this behavior. - John Barnes

On a slightly more serious note, I don't ever recall Mr. Riley's name mentioned prior to the Dangerous project. Doesn't mean they didn't know each other, but the Bad team was clearly established. And yes, the story rings remarkably similar to Bill Bottrell's, which is factual. - Brad Sundberg
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Teddy worked on 2300 Jackson Street in 1988/89 but not sure he was there when Michael did vocals on the track (which was Hayvenhurst)... But that was the closest they got to working together before Dangerous.

Anything else of note from Teddy's book if I may ask? About Michael.
 
Eventidescape1 said:
Teddy worked on 2300 Jackson Street in 1988/89 but I don't suppose he was there when Michael did vocals on the track (which was Hayvenhurst)... But that was the closest they got to working together before Dangerous.

Anything else of note from Teddy's book if I may ask? About Michael.
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He mentions Michael calling Emmanuel Lewis to the studio to get a second opinion on Teddy's songs, playing "Joy" for Michael and he instantly passed on the song. He goes into a few details about the Dangerous album but it's not anything groundbreaking
 
BlackAnon said:
He mentions Michael calling Emmanuel Lewis to the studio to get a second opinion on Teddy's songs, playing "Joy" for Michael and he instantly passed on the song. He goes into a few details about the Dangerous album but it's not anything groundbreaking
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Wasn't there a person who said MJ recorded Joy and it sounded more like a disco track? Stories are all over the place.
 
So does Universal gaining license to use J5, Jackson's, and MJ's solo work in one entity under the MJ Company (the biopic) bode anything or is that just standard filming process? Since the documentary on Thriller did arguably the same with the Victory Tour footage.
 
Does anyone know if the May 28th, 2000 version of Unbreakable is all that different? Or if there was a demo? I have a feeling it's an awful lot like how She Was Lovin' Me is pretty much the same in both versions with minor flourishes added. Still, Unbreakable is the best song on the album and I want more material.

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
So does Universal gaining license to use J5, Jackson's, and MJ's solo work in one entity under the MJ Company (the biopic) bode anything or is that just standard filming process? Since the documentary on Thriller did arguably the same with the Victory Tour footage.
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Standard licensing bullshit. It could bode well in general though.
 
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