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wendijane said:
You are so lucky you are keyboard warmongering over there. Take it off. I dont feel well.

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hope said:
17 min. The text is in Russian, but everything is clear without words.
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Oh, thank you so much. That is so kind. Got a really busy day today - taking a break just now, I am already exhausted and it's only lunchtime, lol - so probably wouldn't have had time to look for it today. I'll save it for this evening. :)

hope said:
And it should definitely calm you down)))))
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Oh, I'm all calm now! At any rate, I'm exhausted so don't have the energy to be agitated. :D I don't think even the Baba Yaga could scare me today. I just don't have the energy to spare, lol.

hope said:
[...] Have you seen Baba Yaga's house?
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I've only seen the bucket that she flies around in. Or that is the only thing I can remember. Maybe her house was in my book of folk tales but it's the bucket I remember. It was a fabulous shape, iirc. Not standard bucket shape. I've looked online and there are lots of images of her but none of them match mine which is frustrating.

No, hang on! Just checked online. I do remember! The chicken legs and feet! I think I quite liked that detail. I think it was the Baba Yaga herself that was scary, especially when she's on the move. Ooh, watch out!
 
zinniabooklover said:
Oh, I'm all calm now! At any rate, I'm exhausted so don't have the energy to be agitated. :D I don't think even the Baba Yaga could scare me today. I just don't have the energy to spare, l

No, hang on! Just checked online. I do remember! The chicken legs and feet! I think I quite liked that detail. I think it was the Baba Yaga herself that was scary, especially when she's on the move. Ooh, watch out!
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Oh, yes!
Strength and patience to you to successfully deal with all the trials of that day!
 
Fuzball said:
@zinniabooklover: does Baba Yaga scare you?
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Not right now, she doesn't. I'm too knackered to give a **** about anything right now! When I was a kid? Not really, if we're being serious. The book of folk tales I had was for kids aged 7 or 8. Iirc, I found her unsettling, maybe a bit creepy, but I don't remember actually being scared. I mean, the main illustration that I can remember was kinda scary and yet I loved to look at it. I loved the detail in the picture, I was fascinated by this flying bucket and I loved the shape of it.

Why hasn't the web got a picture of 'my' bucket? What is the point of the web if it cannot deliver my childhood straight back to me?

Answer came there none!

Sorry! Just having a moment, there. What I was going to say was, I love stories so, for example, I was still reading Hansel and Gretel at age 8 or thereabouts. I didn't drop fairy tales as soon as I was out of infancy. Well, at that age, I didn't find the H&G witch scary. Creepy. Horrible. Unsettling. But not actually scary. I think it was the same with the Baba Yaga although she is whole other level to the Hansel and Gretel witch.

Another essay! Well, I did warn you, mate!
 
I don’t know what happened here since my last post but I saw Sissy Spacek in Carrie and I just like to say it is one of my all time favorite films and performances.

and now give me back my crown and throne and kneel you dirty rotten scoundrels! (which is also the title of a pretty fun film)

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hope said:
[...] Have you seen Baba Yaga's house?
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Sorry to keep banging on about this. The obsession is now in full flow, lol. I just read something about her house. The fence made out of skulls around the house? Cannot remember if that detail was in my book but I must have seen it at some point bc I do remember loving that bit. I did love bones as a kid but skulls especially so that bit was great.

Not to mention, all this talk of Russian folk tales is making me think of Michael's gothic songs - Is It Scary, Little Susie, Morphine, Heartbreak Hotel. It's all sitting quite happily in my mind right now.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Sorry to keep banging on about this. The obsession is now in full flow, lol. I just read something about her house. The fence made out of skulls around the house? Cannot remember if that detail was in my book but I must have seen it at some point bc I do remember loving that bit. I did love bones as a kid but skulls especially so that bit was great.

Not to mention, all this talk of Russian folk tales is making me think of Michael's gothic songs - Is It Scary, Little Susie, Morphine, Heartbreak Hotel. It's all sitting quite happily in my mind right now.
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I like your interest. It has encouraged me to research this topic too, it's very fascinating. After all, fairy tales are always much deeper than just a children's story. Here are more details about this witch. I apologize in advance for the translation, it is automatic and may not be accurate.

P. S. And there is about skulls and bones....
Baba Yaga
Origin of the image
In detail, the fairy-tale image was studied by the famous Soviet scientist Vladimir Propp. He came to the conclusion that the old woman, in fact, symbolizes the world of the dead. She is its guardian. Hence it is clear why her dwelling is always located somewhere far away - on the edge of a dense forest, for example. For our ancestors it symbolized the border of the two worlds - the living and the dead.
The hut itself is nothing but a grave. The fact is that in ancient times the dead were buried in domovinas - special houses located on high stumps. The roots of the stumps protruded from the ground and resembled chicken legs.
What Baba Yaga looked like
Today every child knows that Baba Yaga is an evil old woman who lives in the depths of a dense forest. She is hunchbacked, she has a hooked nose and a mop of sparse gray hair, and one leg is bone.
Attributes and symbolism of Baba Yaga
The indispensable attributes of Baba Yaga are a flying stupa (means of transportation) and a pomelo (she covers her tracks with it). Baba Yaga also possesses magic items: a ball of thread (with its help you can find your way anywhere), a dish with an apple (you need it to look into the future) and a sword (to fight with fairy-tale bogatyrs). But the main symbol of the forest witch is a hut on chicken legs. Instead of a fence at her dwelling is a palisade of bones and human skulls.
Meaning of Baba-Yaga in Slavic mythology
Among scientists there are other interpretations of the image of Baba-Yaga. For example, she was represented in the form of a snake.
According to another version, Baba Yaga could be a bereginya - so the ancient Slavs called the goddess of hills and riverbanks, which was a good guardian of the world and even its foremother. With the adoption of Christianity, however, all the positive qualities of Yaga-Begina were replaced by negative ones: only disgusting appearance and evil intentions remained.

There is an opinion that Baba Yaga could be the Slavic goddess Mokoshya (goddess of crafts, life benefits and harvest) or the wife of the god Veles (Slavic god of fertility and cattle breeding). In this capacity, Yaga was the keeper of all kinds of knowledge and skills. If legends are to be believed, in her youth she was a young girl of extraordinary beauty. But then the gods were angry with her and cursed her. As punishment, Yaga lost her attractiveness.
Tales about Baba Yaga
In the XIX century, the Russian historian and folklorist Alexander Afanasyev gathered together all the Slavic fairy tales in which Baba Yaga appears in one way or another. They can be divided into three groups depending on who the forest witch appears in them.
First, there is Yaga the warrior. It was believed that the sword, which was kept at her, gave great strength. Thanks to this, she could fight on equal terms with bogatyrs and even defeat them.
In addition, Yaga could be a kidnapper. Some Slavic tribes believed that she stole children (most often orphans), took them to a forest thicket or a field. And then eats them.
The third type is Yaga the helper. In this image she was a wise sorceress who helped good heroes in their adventures in every possible way: she fed them, gave advice (for example, how to defeat Koschei the Immortal) and could even give one of her magic items - a ball of thread or a sword.
In other peoples
Scientists find in other peoples a large number of mythological characters that are similar to the image of Baba-Yaga.
Mrs. Metelitsa - the character of the German fairy tale with the same name - has, like Baba Yaga, an ambiguous characteristic. She, according to legend, rewards diligent and obedient girls for their labors, and punishes lazy and negligent ones.
Another world-famous plot, which resembles the stories about Baba Yaga, is "Tom Thumb". The main character managed to defeat the terrible ogre by deception and cunning. And in our fairy tales, as we know, the old woman is also often left "with a nose".
In the image of Baba-Yaga we can find similarities with three characters of Germanic mythology.
The goddesses Golda (ruler of the kingdom of the dead) and Perchta (goddess of farming and spinning), like Baba Yaga, have one leg that is either lame or ugly. And with the goddess Stampa, whose name literally translates as "to grind, crumple, tread heavily", the kinship is obvious, because they are consonant with the Russian word "stupa".
Other folklore analogs of Baba Yaga, according to scientists, may be Lithuanian Ragana (witch in Baltic mythology), Basque Mari (guardian goddess of Mount Amboto) or Celtic Brigita (goddess of crafts and healing). All these foreign deities, like Yaga, live far away from people - either high in the mountains or in the depths of the forest.
And some researchers believe that the image of the Slavic old woman in the stupa has much in common with ancient myths and legends. She guards the entrance to the world of the dead in the same way as the Greek Charon (god-transporter of the souls of the dead in the afterlife). And she kidnaps children like the Greek nymph Calypso, who, according to the legendary Homer, kept the cunning Odysseus on her island for seven years.
 
zinniabooklover said:
Yeah, right. Barbie is so clever she's managed to get herself in the middle of a geo-political row.
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Did it post zin? :unsure::ROFLMAO:Yeah well don't worry about any of that - we just THINK PINK ! !
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filmandmusic said:
I don’t know what happened here since my last post but I saw Sissy Spacek in Carrie and I just like to say it is one of my all time favorite films and performances.

and now give me back my crown and throne and kneel you dirty rotten scoundrels! (which is also the title of a pretty fun film)

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I love that film arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh but mf:mad:ker i give u the forever purge
Watch and learn 🤬whilst ya gimme the crown back !:ninja::mad: .....oh alright , take it - 👑🦀🪡 u wear it well bitch



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wendijane said:
Did it post zin? :unsure:
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It didn't post, I just checked it out. But it seems to be true about the political hoo-ha. Apparently, Vietnam is refusing to allow the film to screen. Don't know the details, don't really want to know, tbh. I didn't read the story properly. International politics is not my superpower. But something seems to be kicking off. 🤷‍♀️
 
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