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Thriller 40th Anniversary

ChrisC said:
A gentle reminder and word of caution on Thriller 4K. How it looks is not a problem. It's how it sounds that will draw the most complaints.

When I saw it in 2018 I noted that all of the audio appeared to have been recreated with the exception of spoken lines of dialogue. The song itself, the score and sound fx are all different from the original. The 2018 version (which I assume will be released next month) unfortunately makes several missteps that us diehards will know is wrong.

I get that the Estate and/or Landis' team were forced into recreating the audio. But there's simply no excuse for not matching it accurately, other than a lack of care.

They may have fixed it (pigs might fly) but my hope is that someone in the community will seek to restore the original audio track and sync it to the 4k version anyway.

The differences wouldn't take anything away from the stunning experience of seeing this in IMAX, but on streaming with repeat viewing, it might get ugly.
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That's nothing we here at mjjc can't fix on the audio tip
 
Victor said:
I 99.9 % believe that it will just be an AI 4K upscale (Topaz Labs) And not a true 4k scans from the film reels.
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Idk...John Landis was pretty keen on saying how they went back to the original negatives...there's only one correct way to do 4k & they should know by now we will call them out on it. Buts let's not be negative about it
 
Fuzball said:
Keep the fingers crossed that no DNR's applied.
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This. They shouldn't remove the film grain because then they remove details too. Also I hope they don't change the aspect ratios. Thriller will probably be widescreen because it was shown in a movie theaters.

I wonder if there is a widescreen version of Ghosts? It was shown in theaters in 1997.
 
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AlwaysThere said:
We can call the estate liars all we want, but I’m really curious what the truth is. I truly don’t think they’d release non-4K videos in 2022 unless they truly didn’t have access to the original negatives. I wonder where they went. Destroyed? Misplaced?

I wish MJ was more attentive.
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I wish that the police raid’s weren’t so intentionally destructive to the point MJs daily possessions and storage weren’t totally destroyed.
 
xscape guy 2003 said:
You know what Michael didn't intend to DIE! So he didn't think that he needed to finish things , keep everything immaculate. He thought he would be around for years and years! So did we! Gone to soon.
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But death is inevitable, and when you’re a figure as prominent and culturally important as he is, a lack of organization is self-destructive.
 
People should stop worrying, eventually we will get to hear other music, life is long. We always want more and more lets just stay realistic.
So he was not tidy, so what it was his life and his stuff, can we really blame him for that? In his head he must have been a mess, I would be if I was in his shoes. It's a miracle he kept going with making music and his humanitarian work. I would have lost all faith in mankind. He was incredibly courageous and forgiving.
 
filmandmusic said:
People should stop worrying, eventually we will get to hear other music, life is long. We always want more and more lets just stay realistic.
So he was not tidy, so what it was his life and his stuff, can we really blame him for that? In his head he must have been a mess, I would be if I was in his shoes. It's a miracle he kept going with making music and his humanitarian work. I would have lost all faith in mankind. He was incredibly courageous and forgiving.
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Amen to that.
 
filmandmusic said:
People should stop worrying, eventually we will get to hear other music, life is long. We always want more and more lets just stay realistic.
So he was not tidy, so what it was his life and his stuff, can we really blame him for that? In his head he must have been a mess, I would be if I was in his shoes. It's a miracle he kept going with making music and his humanitarian work. I would have lost all faith in mankind. He was incredibly courageous and forgiving.
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We can acknowledge the man’s remarkable talent and heart while also faulting him for his mistakes. His affairs were in almost comic disarray, and because of that, who knows how much material is permanently lost? As a public figure, he should’ve done better. That isn’t diminishing him; it’s just the reality of his actions.
 
AlwaysThere said:
We can acknowledge the man’s remarkable talent and heart while also faulting him for his mistakes. His affairs were in almost comic disarray, and because of that, who knows how much material is permanently lost? As a public figure, he should’ve done better. That isn’t diminishing him; it’s just the reality of his actions.
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It's weird because he had to of went through the archives for Private Home Movies. Maybe he had some decent record keeping before the raids happened and after MJ just didnt care anymore.
 
Robbsaber01 said:
It's weird because he had to of went through the archives for Private Home Movies. Maybe he had some decent record keeping before the raids happened and after MJ just didnt care anymore.
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I don’t think so, sadly. Brad Sundberg said that anyone who gave MJ anything important might as well have chucked it into the void, because they’re never seeing it again, so there’s a reputation at play.
 
That's quite sad, but then again as I said Michael probably knew exactly where to get what he wanted but nobody else. Clearly did not know he was going to die and thought I have plenty of years to sort out my stuff. It's a lesson for us all keep all your houses in order you never know when that day may come.
 
Why are we all assuming the Estate hasn't made an inventory, I'm pretty sure they have catalogued the vast majority of MJ's artistic output. If you sign a record breaking 10 album deal the logical thing would be to make that a priority.

I think the bigger problem is or was who is in possession of what. Michael had dozens of people working on his music. It's a problem if Michael had a tape of lead vocals while another producer had the tape with background vocals and another one had the tape which recorded Michael's beatboxing.

It all doesn't matter, the Estate clearly stated not a lot is left so they clearly checked his hard discs or tapes or whatever it is all recorded and stored on.

Bemoaning that makes zero sense, everybody works the way he wants to work.
If we go that far we can easily start nagging about why he didn't finish a record in one session. Some of his songs were decades in the making, if he felt comfortable working like that then who are we to criticize it.
It is clear if he really wanted to, if he had a different way of working there would be dozens of extra tracks available.

If you add up all the songs that got leaked since the dawn of internet or didn't end up on a studio album you can easily make 5 discs (10 tracks per disc) worth of material. That is quite substantial and if all parties involved were a bit more honest and true these wouldn't have leaked and we wouldn't now bemoan the fact that there is not a lot left that we haven't heard.
 
A new unofficial magazine has popped up on the shelves in stores around the US, which is dedicated to Michael’s “Thriller” album, as we gear up to celebrate its 40th anniversary.

The 96 pager is produced by A360 Media and features Michael’s story, from his early days in Indiana with the Jackson 5, to the success of “Off the Wall” and how he followed that up with “Thriller.” The magazine focuses on specific tracks from the album, videos and also the legacy the groundbreaking album has left. The 12 chapters of the magazine are:
 
Annita said:
A new unofficial magazine has popped up on the shelves in stores around the US, which is dedicated to Michael’s “Thriller” album, as we gear up to celebrate its 40th anniversary.

The 96 pager is produced by A360 Media and features Michael’s story, from his early days in Indiana with the Jackson 5, to the success of “Off the Wall” and how he followed that up with “Thriller.” The magazine focuses on specific tracks from the album, videos and also the legacy the groundbreaking album has left. The 12 chapters of the magazine are:
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WELCOME TO MY THRILLER WEEK!!
It wouldn't be Halloween without homage to MJ's THRILLER (choreographed by Michael Peters). So I'm calling the next 7 days "Thriller Week" and we're celebrating Mike's groundbreaking short film for the entire week leading up to Halloween. Join me with your favorite Thriller memories and thoughts in the comments!
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I talk about my experience working on THRILLER in my book (https://linktr.ee/iconsandinstincts) but I also want to hear about your relationship to this incredible music, amazing choreography and Mike's daring performance.

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the current musical is set in 1992.

the posthumous album ‘xscape’ was mostly made up of songs from the 90s-2000s (though it was the ‘83 song that was the big hit).

two other albums received official full length documentaries prior.

it’s ‘thriller’s turn. it’s the crown jewel for not only Michael, but the music industry as a whole. it’s what made him a legend in the first place, and paved the way for what came after. it deserves the attention it’s receiving now.
 
I really just hope the doc will be positive and good. I hope for studio footage and live footage from Victory tour. - The OFW doc had live footage, so the Thriller doc could and should also include some live footage.

I really hope it will succeed to get Thriller to become a #1 hit.
 
83magic said:
the current musical is set in 1992.

the posthumous album ‘xscape’ was mostly made up of songs from the 90s-2000s (though it was the ‘83 song that was the big hit).

two other albums received official full length documentaries prior.

it’s ‘thriller’s turn. it’s the crown jewel for not only Michael, but the music industry as a whole. it’s what made him a legend in the first place, and paved the way for what came after. it deserves the attention it’s receiving now.
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It truly is.
 
I was listening to spotify to random tracks from various artists and out of nowhere an advertisement with thriller playing came on for Halloween.
 
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