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Why didn't MJ tour inside mainland U.S. for Dangerous and HiStory?
Dangerous1991;4101434 said:Michael had agreed verbally that he would tour with the Invincible album including North America - The Tour was to start in Spring 2002, Michael apparently pulled out in September/October 2001 after the terror attacks as security was hightened everywhere.
Dangerous1991;4101434 said:Michael had agreed verbally that he would tour with the Invincible album including North America - The Tour was to start in Spring 2002, Michael apparently pulled out in September/October 2001 after the terror attacks as security was hightened everywhere.
mj_frenzy;4101507 said:“We haven't thought about it much right now, but uh, I don't want to say it's not in the works. Um, we're concentrating on a lot of different things right now. But I can't quite say.” (Michael Jackson, Online Audio Chat, October 26, 2001)
I'm still going to disagree with you here, Better over in this thread.After what he witnessed being disappointed Bad was not going to outsell Thriller, and how he saw his support had declined in North America, the handwriting was on the walk by 1989, he was never going tour in his homeland ever again
After what he witnessed being disappointed Bad was not going to outsell Thriller, and how he saw his support had declined in North America, the handwriting was on the walk by 1989, he was never going tour in his homeland ever again
Even with the loss of some fans over the allegations, there were still far less popular artists who toured the USA successfully. I don't see this as much of a reason for MJ to not tour in America...
hand writing was on the wall, when Michael threw up that peace sign after performing the final show of the Bad Tour in Los Angeles in early 1989, as a fan, I knew hew as never going to tour North America (the mainland) ever again......
hand writing was on the wall, when Michael threw up that peace sign after performing the final show of the Bad Tour in Los Angeles in early 1989, as a fan, I knew hew as never going to tour North America (the mainland) ever again......
After what he witnessed being disappointed Bad was not going to outsell Thriller, and how he saw his support had declined in North America, the handwriting was on the walk by 1989, he was never going tour in his homeland ever again
hand writing was on the wall, when Michael threw up that peace sign after performing the final show of the Bad Tour in Los Angeles in early 1989, as a fan, I knew hew as never going to tour North America (the mainland) ever again......
lolz
oh yeah? You predicted he would never tour the mainland again in 1989? You knew he would only come back and 2 shows in Hawaii?
k.
You always post your opinion as if its fact. Always.
You know, as well as I do, that peace sign in 1989 meant he was never going to tour again-ANYWHERE-ever. The Bad Tour was intended to be the one and only-prove he could not only do it alone, but he was the best there ever was.hand writing was on the wall, when Michael threw up that peace sign after performing the final show of the Bad Tour in Los Angeles in early 1989, as a fan, I knew hew as never going to tour North America (the mainland) ever again......
Hawaii is a state but is not part of the mainland.......
You know, as well as I do, that peace sign in 1989 meant he was never going to tour again-ANYWHERE-ever. The Bad Tour was intended to be the one and only-prove he could not only do it alone, but he was the best there ever was.
Only when the movie plans all crashed and burned, he returned to touring to fund the Heal the World foundation.
I don't know-I beg to differ on the acting and here's why (and I honestly am probably the only one in the fandom who thinks of him as an actor)Michael was never going to be an actor. He had the ability to fund, or at least invest in, projects he'd want to produce or even direct. But he was never going to be a film star. Not counting his starpower overshadowing any role, he just wasn't a good actor. Actually, he was a really bad actor. His best role was when he was dressed with a bunch of prosthetic makeup to look like an overweight white man. I know the fandom probably would disagree, but seriously. Any role he was in that required acting was okay at best.
At that time, he may have felt really exhausted and never wanted to tour again. But after some time to breath, and a new era, he knew he had to tour. No one forced him with a gun to his head. It's just something you gotta do if your label pumps the promo machine into overdrive.
and Maestro in "Ghosts" are probably 2 of the worst
(which I think what happens with some of his work-"In the Closet" falls short with me as well as some of the ones I mentioned earlier-I think a different director would have made all the difference).
And the movies he was actively lobbying for-"Edward Scissorhands" by Tim Burton and the movie musical version of "Phantom of the Opera" both would have been more than perfect for him.
I don't know-I beg to differ on the acting and here's why (and I honestly am probably the only one in the fandom who thinks of him as an actor)
Yes, there have been some pretty bad acting jobs from Michael-"You Rock My World" vid and Maestro in "Ghosts" are probably 2 of the worst-and "Remember the Time" and "Captain EO aren't great, but they are both fun. But there have been some really good ones-"Say, Say, Say"-the whole character beginning to end, "Who Is It"-pain and anguish in that dark room-all over his face, just the way he sits down exudes pain. "Thriller"-again, perfect. "Leave Me Alone" is another where his face says it all.
I thought he was perfect in the Wiz-captured the heart and sensitivity and longing of the Scarecrow perfectly and the critics backed me up with that one. And where I really notice what a great actor he can be is both the video and the live performance of "Dirty Diana"-those furtive glances off stage to see where she is-Billie Jean is like that too-he acts out that whole performance with his face and his body and if you didn't understand a word of English, you'd know exactly what that song is about. And "Bad"-again, really great job.
The types of projects that he was actively lobbying for and working out deals for before and while touring BAD, were special-and I think he knew he had to be really selective with his projects because of his persona-but he was also looking for the cream of the crop in directors that could bring out the best in him-they wouldn't be able to be intimidated by him (which I think what happens with some of his work-"In the Closet" falls short with me as well as some of the ones I mentioned earlier-I think a different director would have made all the difference).
The Spielberg Peter Pan movie fell apart because of Dodi Fahed buying the rights and Spielberg having to change the premise-but I think they could have rewritten the "Hook" script better to suit Michael-it's not a lot different than the stuff he did with the kids in Moonwalker. And I really thought he would have been great as Hook himself-not Peter, the father.
And the movies he was actively lobbying for-"Edward Scissorhands" by Tim Burton and the movie musical version of "Phantom of the Opera" both would have been more than perfect for him.
I think Burton also thought that Michael (by that time) would have overshadowed his little movie, but I remember when I saw it (and cried through it) that it reminded me of Michael and later thought they stole a lot of Michael's persona for the part of Edward-down to the clothes he was wearing and his hair. Actually, just about 90% of Johnny Depp's movie characters could easily have been played by Michael-
and "Phantom" could have just been glorious.
I think the right director(s) and the right acting coach and the right parts would have made all the difference in the world-