I am happy that you know this part of the history. Some ppl have to clue about it. Yes, for stupid freemasons it was romantic hobby but for ppl who started it and were on top of it, it was a matter of power and control. You have to go deep to the history to understand this.
Adolf Hitler started his campaign in Europe and for some reason decided to use Slavic Swastika, which is an Indian symbol as well, as a symbol of Nazi. So, now Slavic ppl cannot use it anymore. The original meaning of swastika for Slavic ppl was "The Sun" or "Turning Sun". Do you think Hitler chose swastika for no reason by mistake? I do not think so.... .
I think ppl have to be stop to be blind and I believe that education is a key for real freedom and real human rights.
I know about it, but that doesn't mean I believe it just like that...
The problem is that secret societies polarise. Much of the literature you find on the internet is pretty opinionated and one-sided. Those who are the most passionate and vocal with their opinions about them are also those who are their strongest adversaries... The Christian Church for example.... they have been against the Freemasons from the start. They don't want to inform you about them, they want to educate and persuade you.
They are also one group that lost a lot of power due to the French and Russian revolution, both of which ultimately made it a bit harder to control the people... The Freemasons were among those groups who prefered science to religion which is why they automatically had powerful enemies. Those who had the most to lose through people becoming educated... I'm sure you remember that it was the (Catholic) Church who refused to translate the Bible for centuries.
Other strong opponents of Freemasons were almost all the Totalitarian systems... those systems that actually used brainwashing, mind control and total supervision.
Reading only texts about Freemasons by the Church and likeminded groups is like reading about WW2 using only GDR history books, but if you add American, British and French history books to that you get a more complete picture and the truth is somewhere in between.
It's not easy to find more liberal minded literature about them, which is why I remain sceptical regarding those conspiracy theories. Belief starts where knowledge ends and In the end I will never know, because I was not there.
The Christian Church (as well as other religions) wasn't exactly innocent regarding bloody wars either.. So it's two sides of a coin in my opinion... They're all out for power and money so I trust neither. Yes, 'Freedom is a nice mask to cover up the truth', but so is religion.
People like quoting songs here... so do I...
Cathedral by Crosby, Stills, Nash
Six o' clock
In the morning, I feel pretty good
So I dropped into the luxury of the Lords
Fighting dragons and crossing swords
With the people against the hordes
Who came to conquer.
Seven o'clock
In the morning, here it comes
I taste the warning and I am so amazed
I'm here today, seeing things so clear this way
In the car and on my way
To Stonehenge.
I'm flying in Winchester cathedral
Sunlight pouring through the break of day.
Stumbled through the door and into the chamber;
There's a lady setting flowers on a table covered lace
And a cleaner in the distance finds a cobweb on a face
And a feeling deep inside of me tells me
This can't be the place
I'm flying in Winchester cathedral.
All religion has to have its day
Expressions on the face of the Saviour
Made me say
I can't stay.
Open up the gates of the church and let me out of here!
Too many people have lied in the name of Christ
For anyone to heed the call.
So many people have died in the name of Christ
That I can't believe it all.
And now I'm standing on the grave of a soldier that died in 1799
And the day he died it was a birthday
And I noticed it was mine.
And my head didn't know just who I was
And I went spinning back in time.
And I am high upon the altar
High upon the altar, high.
I'm flying in Winchester cathedral,
It's hard enough to drink the wine.
The air inside just hangs in delusion,
But given time,
I'll be fine.
They admit it, it isn't a secret.
A quote from David Rockerfeller autobiography Memoirs
In David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" he admits that he is part of a secret cabal working to destroy the United States and create a new world order.
Here is the direct quote from his book pg. 405
For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller
http://saynototyranny.blogspot.com/2007/10/david-rockefellers-book-memoirs-treason.html
That's the quote that is used again and again. I see no 'they' here. Rockefeller is one person and his quote is not exactly specific either.... You can interpret it in many different ways.
Also 'working against the best interests of the United States' is not the same as 'destroy the United States'. Whose best interests are meant anyway? Those of the government or those of the people... They are not necessarily the same. It's also not clear if this statement is meant seriously or sarcastically.
I'm not a supporter of either the NWO conspiracy or their theories. The information that I have found on the internet is presented in a way that automatically makes me stand on my toes.
The texts and videos are theories disguised as fact. They are not objective and factual. They strongly remind me of the anti-communism propaganda spread during the Cold War.
I can believe that there are politicians and financially influential people worldwide who have plans for a bureaucratic world government and enhanced means of control and supervision, but all that talk about the occult, the end of the world, alien invasions, the Antichrist and secret societies just give me the creeps!
These things don't help making the theories credible at all. It's sensationalism!
It's playing with people's anxieties and fears due to the mysticism and fascination with these topics.... in times that are already fearful, because of all our economical and ecological troubles. Hope is the feeling we need to hang on to. These sinister world views are of no use to anyone, because someone who is afraid or even paranoid can't think straight!
People who support and spread these theories have a walk-over, because none of their targeted groups are gonna stand up and disagree, 'cause they are either secret or extinct. Convenient isn't it?
I think that many of those conspiracy theorists take advantage people who don't have the time or inclination to research other points of view.
Fatal believes like the ones that have been expressed in this thread can lead susceptible people to feeling depressed and hopeless and similar believes have lead whole villages into mass suicide in the past.
Because it is much easier to control a corrupted society.
I strongly disagree with this. A corrupt society is never content and people who are discontent will always storm the barricades in the end.
One thing that really puzzles me is why so many people spend so much time and energy on persuading people of their 'truth'. Sure, many people make money with this selling books and DVDs... it must be quite a rush to get people on your side...
Personally I think it's also escapism. It's easier to put the blame of our world's grievances on occults, aliens and whatnot when it's actually us – you and I – who are the enemies.
It's us who are our planet's foes, but it's also us who are its only friends! It's us who have to make the change. And our target is our own personal lifestyle, not some secret inaccessible order of demons.
