Paris Jackson cover story for Rolling Stone: "Paris Jackson: A Life After Neverland"

[Smooth72]

So I see that some people in this thread wanna be startin something....

Ha good one! Maybe we should keep things about MJ and not his kids. This is a Michael Jackson forum not Paris or any of the kids. Just saying I know this is news and she does talk about MJ but still I think there is another place for this stuff.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Re: Paris jackson interview with Rolling Stone.

I don't think Paris actually quoted Michael. IMO, she just expressed his attitude with her words.

I agree.
Also technically nothing she said translated into him cursing In front of the kids.
You know the media will run with it and say he constantly cursed in front of the kids and as such was a bad impression on them though.
Idiots will find something where there is nothing at all.

I didn't know Michael personally.
None of us did, but watching the way he talked and behaved around children in general I don't see him cursing like a sailor in front of his own kids.

 

[CherubimII]

We know this for sure the Legacy of Michael Jackson
will be carried on by his children: Prince, Paris, and Blanket Jackson;
and NOT by the miscellaneous host of the "other Jacksons".arty:

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

I don't think Michael swore like a sailor, specially knowing about the story of his nickname Smelly, although he admitted in his 2007 Ebony interview he said some swear words which I don't see it as a big deal but I don't like when people embelish stories about him, even if it's his own daughter.

Quincy calls me a nickname, “Smelly.” Smelly came from —and [Steven] Spielberg calls me that, too. Back then, especially back then — I say a few swear words now—but especially then, you couldn´t get me to swear. So I would say, ´That´s a “smelly” song.´ That would mean, ´It´s so great´ that you´re engrossed in it. So he would call me ´Smelly.´

And about his children being biologically his, I knew that crap would come up sooner or later. Does it matter if they don't have Michael's DNA even if he raised them and love them since they were born? Michael is their father as far as I'm concerned because he behaved as such and the burden of proof lies on whoever is making the claim he's not the biological father, not on some of us who decided to believe in Michael's word.

 

[CherubimII]

"I consider myself black," she says, adding later that her dad "would look me in the eyes and he'd point his finger at me and he'd be like, 'You're black. Be proud of your roots.' And I'd be like, 'OK, he's my dad, why would he lie to me?' So I just believe what he told me. 'Cause, to my knowledge, he's never lied to me.

Your father, Michael Jackson, is so...PROUD of you, Paris Jackson.
I'm sending you MUCH LOVE!!!!

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

^Those children meant the world for him, I seriously don't get why even some of his fans give too much importance to PPB's DNA if they had a loving and caring father who made sure they had a more healthier and normal upbringing of what Joe and Katherine gave to Michael and his siblings.

“I pray that my children will give me the benefit of the doubt. That they will say to themselves: ‘Our daddy did the best he could, given the unique circumstances that he faced. He may not have been perfect, but he was a warm and decent man, who tried to give us all the love in the world.” -Michael Jackson also from his Oxford speech

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Nice spin-off article by US Mazagine with quotes from MJ about his kids: http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/everything-michael-jackson-said-about-his-kids-w463102

How nice.
I like this article.
There's no hidden meanings or word twisting.
Just how much Michael loved his kids in his own words.

 

[AliCat]

My biggest concern with Paris, is that she is setting her father up to fail by placing him on such a high pedestal. Nobody is perfect, and most of us grow up to realise that our parents are flawed human beings and not the superheroes we may have believed them to be when we were kids. Unfortunately but perhaps understandably, for people who lose a parent during childhood, they often end up placing that parent on a pedestal. Now imagine that parent is Michael Jackson, one of the most renowned, beloved public figures of the last century. Surely that would make it a hundred times harder for Paris to take an objective, unblinkered and humanistic view of her father?

I just don't think it's healthy to still believe into adulthood that your parents were perfect. Once you realise your parents weren't superheroes, you may begin to understand that they simply did the best they could given the circumstances they faced, and you can start appreciating what they did get right and forgiving the areas where you feel they may have let you down.

But if you carry on through adulthood looking at a deceased parent through rose-tinted glasses, I fear one day you will be in for a rude awakening and a crushing disappointment. Paris is still young, she's barely an adult, and hopefully she is still learning and has a good support system behind her to guide her. But I do think she blurred the lines between daughter and fan a long time ago, and the armchair physchologist in me worries about the consequences of that.

I always thought that it would be tough for Michael to ever remarry, on account of his relationship with his daughter, Paris. She was the only female in Michael's life and jealously guarded that. That's why she has had a hard time getting over his death. I, too, think Paris is young and in time she will wisely see things differently. Even she admitted in the Rolling Stones article, that she has not gotten over her father's death, so perhaps time will help her adjust more in her thinking!

 

[AliCat]

You know I never gave this thought before but I wonder how much Shel Silverman influenced Michaels music.. For example could have 'A Light in the Attic' inspired 'someone in the dark'. The poem was written just a year before ET came out.. He obviously had fascination of some sort with the author, is also the person that wrong 'The Giving Tree'! hmmmmm.. I am not too familiar with the author (aside from popular mentioning's but I'm intrigued to dive in and see if I see weavings of Michael by influence.

I gotta love when I read "A Light In The Attic" over in wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Light_in_the_Attic . It is Michael's humor!

 

[8701girl]

I don't think Michael swore like a sailor, specially knowing about the story of his nickname Smelly, although he admitted in his 2007 Ebony interview he said some swear words which I don't see it as a big deal but I don't like when people embelish stories about him, even if it's his own daughter.



And about his children being biologically his, I knew that crap would come up sooner or later. Does it matter if they don't have Michael's DNA even if he raised them and love them since they were born? Michael is their father as far as I'm concerned because he behaved as such and the burden of proof lies on whoever is making the claim he's not the biological father, not on some of us who decided to believe in Michael's word.

You gotta remember michael was still very young and very influenced by the jevoah witness early in the thiller days hence why he didnt swear much. I think it was really after the 1993 allegations is when he started to cuss alot cuz he was pissed at the way he was falsely accused of molesting a child .

 

[gerryevans]

I'm going to absolutely hate forking over a cent for anything RollingStone, but this is something I have to have in hard copy.

 

[Lil]

Because of how it was worded, I see everyone taking this quote as Paris indirectly calling Michael a homophobe.. Wasn't she trying to say the opposite, that Michael was open-minded - unlike homophobic parents - and was tolerant about her liking a girl?

She says Michael emphasised tolerance. "My dad raised me in a very open-minded house," she says. "I was eight years old, in love with this female on the cover of a magazine. Instead of yelling at me, like most homophobic parents, he was making fun of me, like, 'Oh, you got yourself a girlfriend.'

 

[KOPV]

Michael himself stated that he cursed more as he aged.. And Lisa Marie at one point stated that he cursed etc. which is one of those things she didn't expect.. I believe the more he separated from formal religion the more he started to curse -however he did still try keeping a clean image..

I personally would guess he never really cursed a bunch but from a childs perspective (Paris when young) sounded like a lot, and there's a chance she stated it so boldly 'like a sailor' to re iterate normalcy in her father to the public..

 

[barbee0715]

Because of how it was worded, I see everyone taking this quote as Paris indirectly calling Michael a homophobe.. Wasn't she trying to say the opposite, that Michael was open-minded - unlike homophobic parents - and was tolerant about her liking a girl?

It's not worded perfectly, but there's no doubt that she meant Michael was open minded and raised them to be so too.

 

[Lil]

^thanks, that's what I thought but I wanted to be sure since English isn't my first language.. unfortunate to see how it's interpreted. A lot of people also seem to think Paris was talking about Michael when she mentioned the sexual abuse :mello: people are stupid..

 

[AliCat]

You gotta remember michael was still very young and very influenced by the jevoah witness early in the thiller days hence why he didnt swear much. I think it was really after the 1993 allegations is when he started to cuss alot cuz he was pissed at the way he was falsely accused of molesting a child .

Michael ain't gonna take sh#t, twice. Let's not be so naive as Michael fans. Michael's kid's were born after HIStory was released. In other words, Michael was really, really pissed and blowing off steam, which is why he swears. Michael was taken advantage of by those close to him. To think he had to suffer twice for the same allegations and once again he trusted those around him and gotten taken advantage of again!

 

[jhasm]

Re: Paris jackson interview with Rolling Stone.

Overall a nice interview but I do not believe everything Paris says 100%. For example:



I am pretty sure he did not swear like a sailor


I agree 100% with you! Michael had a pure, spiritual heart for God and all people as well as for children. yes, you are right, and I agree!

 

[michaeljackson&lisamarie]

Who cares if Michael cursed in front of his kids or not. My parents cursed in front of me all the time. Sometimes even at me and I turned out just fine.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Because of how it was worded, I see everyone taking this quote as Paris indirectly calling Michael a homophobe.. Wasn't she trying to say the opposite, that Michael was open-minded - unlike homophobic parents - and was tolerant about her liking a girl?

If that's what some are saying they're clearly twisting her words.
She was indeed saying the exact opposite.

 

[LindavG]

If that's what some are saying they're clearly twisting her words.
She was indeed saying the exact opposite.

Shows what damage a misplaced comma can do ;D But it was pretty obvious from the context that Michael was actually very tolerant and open-minded about it. Just like we all know him to be

 

[Snow White luvs Peter Pan]

Who cares if Michael cursed in front of his kids or not. My parents cursed in front of me all the time. Sometimes even at me and I turned out just fine.

He was pretty adamant in not cursing in front of children, I assume he applied the same criteria with his own kids.


About people twisting Paris' words, I guess there are individuals who enjoy being mean-spirited assholes.

 

[ExoticPrincess]

Paris spoke her truth as she knows it, she lived with him, the fans didn't. It's a bit unfair to say that she is lying in this interview.

People are up in arms because she says she is black......I can only imagine what would've happened if she said she identified as white.....yup, all hell would break loose too! Can't please everyone.

Let Paris find her way in this world and for those of us who loved MJ, we can only wish the best for her.

 

[michaeljackson&lisamarie]

Paris spoke her truth as she knows it, she lived with him, the fans didn't. It's a bit unfair to say that she is lying in this interview.

People are up in arms because she says she is black......I can only imagine what would've happened if she said she identified as white.....yup, all hell would break loose too! Can't please everyone.

Let Paris find her way in this world and for those of us who loved MJ, we can only wish the best for her.

. Amen, nothing left to say.

 

[HIStoric]

Since she said this happened when she was 14 (and Michael has been dead for three years then) how is that possible? Let alone that she said it was a complete stranger. People really are stupid.

You just reminded me of that super crazy lady who claimed Ghost Michael Jackson molested her or something haha.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

Who cares if Michael cursed in front of his kids or not. My parents cursed in front of me all the time. Sometimes even at me and I turned out just fine.

TBH this is kind of how I feel too.
Just like you, my parents cursed around me and it had no adverse effect, but all in all it's more of a public perception thing especially since Paris didn't actually say he cursed in front of her and instead just said he cursed.
It's just the off chance that the media could run with it and say he was a bad example/impression on the kids because he 'cursed like a sailor' in front of them when technically that's not even what Paris herself said.
Kids overhear things, and read things.
For example Respect77 said that Lisa said Michael cursed.
For all we know she could have got it from there or somewhere else and repeated it in her own words in the interview. *shrugs*

You just reminded me of that super crazy lady who claimed Ghost Michael Jackson molested her or something haha.

LMAO, I remember reading that mess.
She legit said that Michael's Ghost came out of the TV and got her pregnant.:lol:

 

[redfrog]

She's already posted before that they've had DNA tests done and that they are his biological children.

Just saying it is not enough. If my father was routinely called a liar for stating that he was my biological father
I would do what it takes to produce proof that he did not lie. I've seen a bunch of people
not only ridiculing Paris for stating that she was black but trashing MJ for telling her that she was black.

It would only take a DNA test to put this issue to rest, except for those who would say the test is fake
but you can't cure stupid. The fact that neither she nor Prince is willing to publish
a DNA test shows that they either don't give a **** about their father being constantly trashed and ridiculed
or they are not sure whether he is their father and don't want to take the risk of the test coming back
negative.

Also Paris should stop justifying her own behavior by lying about his father.
MJ did not swear like a sailor and he did not smoke.
Paris is the ONLY person who says the opposite and what a coincidence
that it's her who cusses like a sailor and it's her who smokes.

By all accounts MJ tried to shield his kids from all the crap the accusers, the police and the media
were doing to him. But he cried about it to Paris when she was nine? I don't buy it.
Prince said they were hit with everything AFTER MJ died and it was quite shocking.
I don't think they knew about the allegations before he died.
Out of all the things she could have brought up to refute the allegations
she talks about MJ crying to her at night, people trashing MJ for his parenting like why did he make Paris feel bad and
make her hate the world?

Stupid girl. She doesn't seem to understand how her statements can be so easily used against MJ.

How he blatantly contradicted himself about Blanket's mother.!

What makes you think he did? Blanket had two mothers: an egg donor whom MJ did not know
and a so called gestational surrogate whom MJ knew. That's it. He should have clarified
that she knew the surrogate not the donor. But then again MJ was never good at explaining himself when it was about his personal life.

He does not even know who his mother is!

So what? Millions of people never knew who their mother or father was. Big deal.
Humans do not require two parents to grow up. Or even one for that matter.
Plenty of people grow up in orphanages.

 

[Ms. BlueGangsta]

^^^^
All in all when it comes to the paternity thing no matter what Paris said people would still be talking shit.
So it was a lose lose situation for her.
The best comment overall I believe would be no comment when it comes to that, and even then I bet people still would have something to say.
Albeit quite a lot less.

No, I do not believe that Michael smoked (I wasn't even aware that she had said that until this thread), nor do I believe he cursed like a sailor in front of his kids.

I do believe he could have broke down crying in front of Paris/the kids though, which I don't and won't fault him for because with what he went though forget breaking down crying.
Many probably would have committed suicide or at least thought about it.

Lastly, even a DNA test wouldn't be enough for many people.
To this day even after the autopsy proved otherwise some dumb ass people still think Michael bleached his skin to become as light as he did.
All common sense seems to go out the window when it comes to Michael.

 

[Smooth72]

Who cares if MJ cursed most people do. As far as smoking who knows I've have heard from people MJ may have partake a couple puffs here and there. Im not talking cigarettes either. Heck he has been around a bunch of different people in his life. Who cares? it is what it is no big deal. No one is perfect everyone has the vises they turn too.

 

[redfrog]

I do believe he could have broke down crying in front of Paris/the kids though, which I don't and won't fault him for because with what he went though forget breaking down crying.
Many probably would have committed suicide or at least thought about it.

Yes I can imagine that Paris saw MJ cry but she said it in a way that MJ cried to her at night because
the world accused him of doing something he didn't do. If Paris knew about the allegations
at nine how could it be so shocking to them after he died? Either Prince or Paris is not telling the truth
and I believe it's Paris. When MJ destroyed the hotel room in Vegas after hearing about the raid
the moment Paris appeared he calmed down, not to scare her or something.
He very clearly wanted to shield his kids from that crap. Tom Mez also said the same
about how MJ behaved during the trial. I don't think that he exposed his kids
to any of that. They learned about it after he died just like Prince said it.

Lastly, even a DNA test wouldn't be enough for many people.
To this day even after the autopsy proved otherwise some dumb ass people still think Michael bleached his skin to become as light as he did.
All common sense seems to go out the window when it comes to Michael.

Yes as I said there is no cure for stupid. But just like with the autopsy report at least
a lot of people now accept that he did have vitiligo since the media by en large no longer denies it.
A credible DNA test would have the same impact.

A lot of people also seem to think Paris was talking about Michael when she mentioned the sexual abuse :mello: people are stupid..

Paris simply doesn't realize what she absolutely should not say. When she accused someone (his former BF?) of leaking her half naked pictures and called them child porn for example. Stupid. And now this. She should have kept it for herself. By now she should know that if she utters the words I was sexually assaulted, no matter the context or the facts, it will be used against MJ.
As if there is not enough BS to refute already she managed to add to it. I wish she would just shut up.

 

[Justthefacts]

You know there is something about Paris is that a lot of people really have an issue with. A part of me feels because some may think what did she do to deserve a Rolling Stone cover? Another part of me feels that's some especially in my community feel some type of way still about that whole kidnapping thing in 2012 because she was so vocal. Prince could have done and said the same exact things and in opinion and people wouldn't be losing their minds. There are a lot of grown women of color who are jealous Paris, I think parents can be a little obnoxious sometimes like most eighteen-year-olds but this is crazy