To say if either MJ or Prince were gay it would be Prince... lol! as fem as Prince looked, he was a stud.. he went through women and did not hide it. He got more @$$ than a toilet seat! he was fem looking but not gay at alllll!
Prince fans say that about Prince because he was smooth with the ladies.. They've seen it! has nothing to do with Michael or being better than Michael..
look I am MUCHHHHHH more of a fan of Mikes than Prince. Michael would squash prince in many respects.. But I have to say that Prince was smooth, you hear him talk, you watch him flirt... It's smooth! Michael did not have that same... well like we all have said, when it comes to sexuality it's deeper more complex with him.
That says nothing about musical talent.. If you know Prince you know his crazy times with women! that's it, it's not a defending or being a "fan:" thing. Even other rockers have mentioned envy over the women Prince has been with..
Prince fans say that about Prince because he was smooth with the ladies.. They've seen it! has nothing to do with Michael or being better than Michael..
look I am MUCHHHHHH more of a fan of Mikes than Prince. Michael would squash prince in many respects.. But I have to say that Prince was smooth, you hear him talk, you watch him flirt... It's smooth! Michael did not have that same... well like we all have said, when it comes to sexuality it's deeper more complex with him.
That says nothing about musical talent.. If you know Prince you know his crazy times with women! that's it, it's not a defending or being a "fan:" thing. Even other rockers have mentioned envy over the women Prince has been with..
Prince fans say that about Prince because he was smooth with the ladies.. They've seen it! has nothing to do with Michael or being better than Michael..
look I am MUCHHHHHH more of a fan of Mikes than Prince. Michael would squash prince in many respects.. But I have to say that Prince was smooth, you hear him talk, you watch him flirt... It's smooth! Michael did not have that same... well like we all have said, when it comes to sexuality it's deeper more complex with him.
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This has another "Eddie does Michael". From 1:40
To me, Michael was a gentlemen aka nice guy.Prince fans say that about Prince because he was smooth with the ladies.. They've seen it! has nothing to do with Michael or being better than Michael..
look I am MUCHHHHHH more of a fan of Mikes than Prince. Michael would squash prince in many respects.. But I have to say that Prince was smooth, you hear him talk, you watch him flirt... It's smooth! Michael did not have that same... well like we all have said, when it comes to sexuality it's deeper more complex with him.
That says nothing about musical talent.. If you know Prince you know his crazy times with women! that's it, it's not a defending or being a "fan:" thing. Even other rockers have mentioned envy over the women Prince has been with..
I agree. Also, not all men need to do what Prince did to women. Some men are gentlemen and do not want to be labeled a wh@#e.Not saying that either one of them were gay, but being seen publicly with women does not negate that someone could be gay or bisexual.
I notice that many people (especially Prince fans) will say the same thing that you said in order to "prove" that Prince was straight and somehow better then Michael because of it, which is extremely hypocritical because both Michael and Prince were feminine to a certain extent, but because Michael wasn't publicly with a new woman every week he is made out to be gay and weird.
TBH if Prince or anyone else insinuates that Michael was gay as an insult it speaks volumes about them and not about Michael (who actually stated he wasn't gay).
I know you weren't doing this, but it irks me when people trot out all of the women Prince was with to make him seem cooler, more manly, and not weird in comparison to Michael.
*Steps off of soap box*
In my opinion some people take this thing between MJ and Prince way too seriously... It's ok if Prince has something on MJ, who cares? I feel confident in MJ's artistic ability and personality enough not to think it's a big deal if Prince was smoother with the ladies..
He admitted himself he has never asked a girl out, has spoken about his uncomforts around women and it's no secret that most of his life he was super shy.. I saw him as the type to be very warm and charming when you got to know him but when you're 'picking up a lady' that's a different story..
He's admitted he's not a romantic type, in fact if my memory surves me right he stated that he was 'selfish' in that way, that he's too focused on his work, children, and what he finds important to give women the attention they need..
But, of course many fans are going to say he's 'smooth'... I just don't see him that way, I see him more as a warm hearted person that is just a joy to be around.. to be honest most 'smooth guys' are not that way.. being smooth is not always a complementary thing.. I know a few guys that are extra 'smooth', and I 'll admit it is very cool at first.. but once you peal those layers, it's empty.. Michael is not that, he's genuine
So what is your definition of "smooth"? Knows how to get women? I am pretty sure MJ could get as many women as he wanted. It's just that he had pretty high standards. He was not going to marry stalker fans like Prince did, for example (Mayte). He could have had his own Mayte in women like Shana Mangatal but he did not want it - and I actually respect him for that. Marrying a fan is kind of an easy prey IMO, I don't consider that smooth. LOL. It's just that MJ had different standards when it came to women and relationships IMO. At the end of the day both ended up alone, single, so it is not like Prince had it better.
But if MJ wanted a woman he could get it - even women who by their own accounts other men felt intimidated by. Lisa Marie said that many men usually felt intimidated by her, but with MJ he was the one who initiated things. And that despite of her being married. So I don't think MJ had any problems picking up and charming a woman if he wanted to. Hell, he had women being so thirsty for him that they spent a lifetime of hoplessly chasing him around (see Shana). Or see Tatiana being after him. Even Lisa could never get over him and I suspect she is still in love with him. Or see supermodels giving him their phone numbers like that model at that birthday even in 2003 who slipped her phone number in his hand while they shook hands. LOL. How was the guy not "smooth" when he had women go that crazy for him and throwing themselves at him left and right? And not just fans, but famous women, models etc. LOL.
The fact is, if it wasn't for MJ insisting on Quincy working on OTW, large swathes of the world world wouldn't know who the senile old duffer was.
Quincy had some success in a minority music genre, Jazz, before his monumental success with MJ. Big deal.
Songs like 'Billie Jean' would have been huge with or without Quincy, as you can hear from the demo. Would Quincy even be talked about these days, without his success with MJ? Doubt it.
Lock him in a home for the senile and throw away the key, before we're subjected to any more of his nonsense.
Erm, I just wanna set straight that Quincy J. not only hat "some" success as a jazz musician, he was one of the leading / major figures in that genre.
Jones "[...] is an American record producer, conductor, arranger, composer, musician, television producer, film producer, instrumentalist, magazine founder, entertainment company executive, and humanitarian. His career spans six decades in the entertainment industry and a record 79 Grammy Award nominations, 28 Grammys, including a Grammy Legend Award in 1991. Jones came to prominence in the 1950s as a jazz arranger and conductor [...] In the 1960s, Jones worked as an arranger for some of the most important artists of the era, including Billy Eckstine, Sarah Vaughan, Frank Sinatra, Ella Fitzgerald, Nana Mouskouri, Shirley Horn, Peggy Lee, and Dinah Washington."
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quincy_Jones
Also, Jazz is not a minority music genre :busted:, at least not in Europe ... Without Jazz,there would be no pop music.
People melted around Michael because of his charm, his heart that beams through his eyes.. than for those who got to know him, even more charm.... To me Charm and guy that's smooth are not the same.. I think of the word smooth as in slick, a lover boy.. Casanova with the women!
kind of like the stage MJ vs in person MJ.. how they were almost two different ppl.. the stage MJ was more 'smooth' to me..
With Mike to me he was very charming which attracted women and his stage persona was smooth-like which brought it all together..
From everything we've read and watched It makes it clear he was not a lover boy type of guy.. which I am glad he wasn't, it takes away from his innocence.. If he were, he would not have the same charm and characteristics
Disrespectful to Michael AND Prince to say some of the things Quincy said in the clips