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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Be honest on how the way he was dancing. that's all.
    sorry, still confused, do you mean like, hi I'm gonna be doing a sexy dance so if you don't want to see it don't watch. That sort of honest do u mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManBehindTheMirrOr - Dona View Post
    For me its already enough things out there which MJ never wanted to be public and see the light of day.
    I don't really need more of it especially when it comes to his artistic work and intimate things.
    I know sometimes the MJ adiction can get a little bit toxic but try to to respect his privacy and right to have secrets he never wanted to be revealed for everyone.
    A release of this panther dance video is not good for Michaek. The haters and the nedia would only use this for new attacts against him.
    He need protectiion besides every everything else!
    I must have the wrong impression here. I thought it was Michael that wanted it to be released? If he didn't then I agree.

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    Default Re: the change in michael's message and image after 'thriller'

    Quote Originally Posted by mj_frenzy View Post
    The controversy of his panther dance video was not only for increasing the sales of his ‘Dangerous’ album.

    As I said, the controversy aimed also at increasing the sales of that album.

    Michael Jackson wanted mainly to be again (with his comeback in terms of new music) in the focus of public attention, and the controversy by that panther dance video served perfectly that purpose, too.

    Notice that he did a similar thing few years later, when he released the ‘HIStory’ video teaser (shot in Budapest) for increasing the sales of the ‘HIStory’ album, but first and foremost for creating big controversy around him again with that comeback in music.

    He even admitted to Diane Sawyer that he wanted everybody’s attention with that ‘HIStory’ video teaser and he liked the fact that people fell into his trap (actually, the same strategy as with his panther dance video).

    The unseen version of the panther dance video exists, but they are never going to release it.

    Aside from being too shocking even for these days, also there is really no point in its release although many of his fans are desperate to watch it.
    I remember there was an edited and unedited version with and without the graffiti. Is there yet another version that never saw the daylight? Or are we talking about the unedited version? Because I've seen that one and it was released I think on some of the early Dangerous VHS or even was on MTV sometimes?

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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    I don't know what is meant to be in this unseen video that is so shocking in this day and age, where sex and violence do occur in music videos let alone film. I think the consideration of whether it should be released - given the attention atm - is a valid one. My views on posthumous releases vary but I recognise it's not my decision.
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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    Stop attcking me you bullies! It's my oinpion and if you don't like it block me or don't write back. I worte alot comments on this thread. If you not lazy read them. I'm so frustrated with you people. I already told i'm a person with delays that make me view things differece and also misunderstand things. If you not getting or i'm not getting then leave it heck alone. By the way you all make feel uncomfortbale anyway i knew thier was some strange about you people.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Stop attcking me you bullies! It's my oinpion and if you don't like it block me or don't write back. I worte alot comments on this thread. If you not lazy read them. I'm so frustrated with you people. I already told i'm a person with delays that make me view things differece and also misunderstand things. If you not getting or i'm not getting then leave it heck alone. By the way you all make feel uncomfortbale anyway i knew thier was some strange about you people.
    We’re not. We just disagree with your opinion. And it has nothing to do with your disability. We’re sorry for what you’re going through but this forum is open and equal to anybody, no matter their race, their sexuality, their disabilities or whatever. Anybody is allowed to say what they want to say, and that includes you but also anybody else who disagrees with you. It should be made clear, nobody is attacking you for your disability, we just disagree with your points of view, but we’re not trying to force you to change it, we’re just saying our piece. But if we made you feel like you were being targeted, we apologize.
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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    Quote Originally Posted by NatureCriminal7896 View Post
    Stop attcking me you bullies! It's my oinpion and if you don't like it block me or don't write back. I worte alot comments on this thread. If you not lazy read them. I'm so frustrated with you people. I already told i'm a person with delays that make me view things differece and also misunderstand things. If you not getting or i'm not getting then leave it heck alone. By the way you all make feel uncomfortbale anyway i knew thier was some strange about you people.
    No one is attacking you or being a bully. If you can't handle people disagreeing with you, then don't participate in the thread.

    No more drama.


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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    I think all people develope thru life...

    What happened to MJ after the success of Thriller was intens. The Pepsi-accident. MJ got older, the world changed - and MJ had to follow it.

    MJ shooting a man in SC is not at all MJ supporting violence - it's just a mafia-world - and the way it is made, the man flies into the wall - it's made funny and not violent at all...

    HIStory is MJ angry... - after 1993 - I wonder why??

    Invincible is MJ's OTW-2001-take... - with many gret songs.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/Ahess/videos - me dancing MJ - many years ago.

    I would be really glad if you rated or/and commented the videos. Thanks

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    Yeah.. I have really exaggerated here in the case of the Black panther video.
    The rest I simply wanted to say and express somewhere cause it had engaged me.
    But it didn't fit here. Sorry.

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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    Quote Originally Posted by 8701girl View Post
    wish i could see the unseen version of it
    Quote Originally Posted by Electro View Post
    Source?
    Quotes that show that's it's not just PR or fan speculation?
    Quote Originally Posted by WannaScream View Post
    Why do you think it's too shocking? I think there is always point in releasing work, especially if it's what the artist originally intended it to be. I've seen another artist release an unseen video (that actually people said might have caused a stir at the time but it's fine in this day) and the fans love it.

    I would like to see this unseen video too.

    Yeah I want to know the sources that show it exists and that it's too shocking.
    Quote Originally Posted by WannaScream View Post
    I don't know what is meant to be in this unseen video that is so shocking in this day and age, where sex and violence do occur in music videos let alone film. I think the consideration of whether it should be released - given the attention atm - is a valid one. My views on posthumous releases vary but I recognise it's not my decision.
    According to several accounts from people who worked on the ‘Black Or White’ music video, the unseen version of the panther dance video still exists.

    That unseen version, which actually consists of some additional shots, it has been generally described as footage of extreme, gratuitous violence and explicit sexuality on Michael Jackson’s part.

    I would like to see that too, but at the same time I believe that is certainly not something that needs to get a release and in no way it would benefit his posthumous legacy.

    Keep in mind that many parents were shocked by the panther dance video (both versions) and complained about it when it came out back then in 1991, many parents would react in the same way even these days if the unseen version of it gets a release.

    Quote Originally Posted by Herrie View Post
    I remember there was an edited and unedited version with and without the graffiti. Is there yet another version that never saw the daylight? Or are we talking about the unedited version? Because I've seen that one and it was released I think on some of the early Dangerous VHS or even was on MTV sometimes?

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    Apart from the unedited and edited version of the black panther video that both were released at that time, there is also a third version of it (the unseen one, which is extremely shocking and so far it has not seen the light of day).

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    Default Re: The Change in Michael's Message and Image After 'Thriller'

    That the original Panther dance was much more extreme then what MJ wanted the public to see from does not surprise me.
    He completly let himself go into this performance without thinking anything!
    And when you do this esspecially when you feel such strong feelings like anger and hate it can have an extreme violent result.
    But because it was during a video shoot, MJ could watch it all over again and decide what parts of this performance really ceptured what he wanted to present with and put everthing together as best as possible.
    This is how art works. You do maaaany (also exessive) takes / trys and then tie them together to the best possible picture you can draw.
    Great Art nearly never creats itself by chance in one take / try / moment without preparation.
    It takes mainly a lot of hard work until its done.
    No great artist would be great and unforgetable when he only had one take/ try for each of his works and than had to relase it!
    There is a long process of exercises and decisons of humans behind it.
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