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Exodus 21:22-25

When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Jeremiah 20:14-18

Cursed be the day I was born! the day when my mother bore me, let it not be blessed! Cursed be the man who brought the news to my father, "A son is born to you," making him very glad. Let that man be like the cities which the Lord overthrew without pity; let him hear a cry in the morning and an alarm at noon, because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb for ever great.. Why did I come forth from the womb to see toil and sorrow, and spend my days in shame?

Job 3:16-19

Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master.

Ecclesiastes 6:3-5

If a man begets a hundred children, and lives many years, so that the days of his years are many, but he does not enjoy life's good things, and also has no burial, I say that an untimely birth is better off than he. For it comes into vanity and goes into darkness, and in darkness its name is covered; moreover it has not seen the sun or known anything; yet it finds rest rather than he.

Judges 19:22-29

As they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, base fellows, beset the house round about, beating on the door; and they said to the old man, the master of the house, "Bring out the man who came into your house, that we may know him." And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, "No, my brethren, do not act so wickedly; seeing that this man has come into my house, do not do this vile thing. Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." But the men would not listen to him. So the man seized his concubine, and put her out to them; and they knew her, and abused her all night until the morning. And as the dawn began to break, they let her go. And as morning appeared, the woman came and fell down at the door of the man's house where her master was, till it was light. And her master rose up in the morning, and when he opened the doors of the house and went out to go on his way, behold, there was his concubine lying at the door of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, "Get up, let us be going." But there was no answer. Then he put her upon the ass; and the man rose up and went away to his home. And when he entered his house, he took a knife, and laying hold of his concubine, he divided her, limb by limb, into twelve pieces, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.

Genesis 19:4-8

But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them." Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have two daughters who have not known man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof."

Numbers 5:17, 24-28

The priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel, and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put in into the water. … And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain. … If she has acted unfaithfully against her husband, … her body shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children.

Exodus 21, 22, and 23

[21:2] "... When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing."

[21:7-8] "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do."

[21:26-27] "When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free for the eye's sake. If he knocks out the tooth of his slave, male or female, he shall let the slave go free for the tooth's sake."

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

[22:19] "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."

[22:20] "He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

[22:29] ... "The first-born of your sons you shall give to me. You shall do likewise with your oxen and with your sheep: seven days it shall be with its dam; on the eighth day you shall give it to me."

[23:19] ... "You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk."

Numbers 31:17, 40

[Verse 17, Moses says:] "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

[Verse 40:] The persons [women who had not known man by lying with him] were sixteen thousand, of which the Lord's tribute was thirty-two persons.

Proverbs 23:13-14

Do not withhold discipline from a child. If you beat him with a rod, he will not die. If you beat him with the rod, you will save his life from Sheol.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father; or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, "This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
 
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Why are you posting that? Are you trying to make us un-Christian?
 
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Why are you posting that? Christians believe what Christ said, The NEW testament, hene why called Christians. I read the first quote and laughed and didn't bother reading anymore. Jesus said this teaching about ''eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.'' was wrong - he said to ''turn the other cheek''! If you don't know this basic thing.. and think christians believe u should go around hurtng each other.. well wow :/
 
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TheBob said:
Exodus 21:22-25

When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is a miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined, according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

Jeremiah 20:14-18

Cursed be the day I was born! the day when my mother bore me, let it not be blessed! Cursed be the man who brought the news to my father, "A son is born to you," making him very glad. Let that man be like the cities which the Lord overthrew without pity; let him hear a cry in the morning and an alarm at noon, because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb for ever great.. Why did I come forth from the womb to see toil and sorrow, and spend my days in shame?

Job 3:16-19

Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master.

Ecclesiastes 6:3-5

If a man begets a hundred children, and lives many years, so that the days of his years are many, but he does not enjoy life's good things, and also has no burial, I say that an untimely birth is better off than he. For it comes into vanity and goes into darkness, and in darkness its name is covered; moreover it has not seen the sun or known anything; yet it finds rest rather than he.

Judges 19:22-29

As they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, base fellows, beset the house round about, beating on the door; and they said to the old man, the master of the house, "Bring out the man who came into your house, that we may know him." And the man, the master of the house, went out to them and said to them, "No, my brethren, do not act so wickedly; seeing that this man has come into my house, do not do this vile thing. Behold, here are my virgin daughter and his concubine; let me bring them out now. Ravish them and do with them what seems good to you; but against this man do not do so vile a thing." But the men would not listen to him. So the man seized his concubine, and put her out to them; and they knew her, and abused her all night until the morning. And as the dawn began to break, they let her go. And as morning appeared, the woman came and fell down at the door of the man's house where her master was, till it was light. And her master rose up in the morning, and when he opened the doors of the house and went out to go on his way, behold, there was his concubine lying at the door of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, "Get up, let us be going." But there was no answer. Then he put her upon the ass; and the man rose up and went away to his home. And when he entered his house, he took a knife, and laying hold of his concubine, he divided her, limb by limb, into twelve pieces, and sent her throughout all the territory of Israel.

Genesis 19:4-8

But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them." Lot went out of the door to the men, shut the door after him, and said, "I beg you, my brothers, do not act so wickedly. Behold, I have two daughters who have not known man; let me bring them out to you, and do to them as you please; only do nothing to these men, for they have come under the shelter of my roof."

Numbers 5:17, 24-28

The priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel, and take some of the dust that is on the floor of the tabernacle and put in into the water. … And he shall make the woman drink the water of bitterness that brings the curse, and the water that brings the curse shall enter into her and cause bitter pain. … If she has acted unfaithfully against her husband, … her body shall swell, and her thigh shall fall away, and the woman shall become an execration among her people. But if the woman has not defiled herself and is clean, then she shall be free and shall conceive children.

Exodus 21, 22, and 23

[21:2] "... When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years, and in the seventh he shall go out free, for nothing."

[21:7-8] "When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do."

[21:26-27] "When a man strikes the eye of his slave, male or female, and destroys it, he shall let the slave go free for the eye's sake. If he knocks out the tooth of his slave, male or female, he shall let the slave go free for the tooth's sake."

[22:18, KJV] "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."

[22:19] "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."

[22:20] "He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed."

[22:29] ... "The first-born of your sons you shall give to me. You shall do likewise with your oxen and with your sheep: seven days it shall be with its dam; on the eighth day you shall give it to me."

[23:19] ... "You shall not boil a kid in its mother's milk."

Numbers 31:17, 40

[Verse 17, Moses says:] "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."

[Verse 40:] The persons [women who had not known man by lying with him] were sixteen thousand, of which the Lord's tribute was thirty-two persons.

Proverbs 23:13-14

Do not withhold discipline from a child. If you beat him with a rod, he will not die. If you beat him with the rod, you will save his life from Sheol.

Deuteronomy 21:18-21

If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey the voice of his father; or the voice of his mother, and, though they chastise him, will not give heed to them, then his father and his mother shall take hold of him and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gate of the place where he lives, and they shall say to the elders of his city, "This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of the city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall purge the evil from your midst; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.
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Why?
Do you want to tell us we are wrong? Well if so, you are even worse, trying to tell us we are living a bad way. You are like the political leaders in Iran. They who will not following our messages can be shot. You are not better than those people! How dare you to make such a post in this thread?? How dare you? My faith in a MJ fan is really making a turning point, this can't be tolerated. PLEASE RESPECT EVERY RELIGION. We respect everyone. So respect us.
WE DON'T HARM ANYONE WITH OUR POSTS, THOSE WHO DON'T LIKE OUR POSTS SHOULDN'T READ THEM.

This quote will blast all of your passages away:
"It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.

May God bless you:angel:
 
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Lets ignore thebob. By reading his messages in 'the athiest thread version 2' he isn't a very nice person.

Lets go back to how positive and lovely this thread was before :]
 
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Here is Michael talking about God.

Michael Jackson: Quotes on his relationship with God

July 8, 2009 — by Kedar
“No matter what, the most powerful thing in the world is the human mind and prayer, and belief in yourself and confidence and perseverance. No matter how many times you do it, you do it again until it’s right. And always believe in yourself. And not matter who’s around you that is being negative or thrusting negative energy at you, totally block it off. Because whatever you believe, you become.”
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Michael Jackson spoke these words in an Online Audio Chat sponsored by GetMusic.com and RollingStone.com on October 26, 2001 with Anthony DeCurtis as the moderator.
His views on the songwriting process:
“Michael: Well, the songwriting process is something very difficult to explain because it’s very spiritual. It’s, uh…You really have it in the hands of God, and it’s as if it’s been written already – that’s the real truth. As if it’s been written in its entirety before were born and you’re just really the source through which the songs come. Really. Because there is…they just fall right into your lap in its entirety. You don’t have to do much thinking about it. And I feel guilty having to put my name, sometimes, on the songs that I – I do write them – I compose them, I write them, I do the scoring, I do the lyrics, I do the melodies but still, it’s a…it’s a work of God.”
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Michael’s views on talent:
“You give of your talent, of your ability… the talent that was given you by the Heavens. That’s why we’re here, to bring a sense of escapism in time of need. And, uh, if you’re a painter you paint; if you’re a sculptor, you sculpt; if you’re a writer, you write; if you’re a songwriter, you give songs; if you’re a dancer, you give dance. You give people some love and some… some bliss and some escapism, and to show that you truly care from the heart, and be there for them. Not just from a distance, but show you really care. You know, take the long mile and be there for them. And that’s what I did, and many others who cared and helped. And it’s an important thing.”
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His views on a spiritual energy:
“Anthony: Now Glenn from Toronto Canada asks, “Do you feel a special spiritual energy when you’re performing; do you feel you are connected to a higher force? Cause this is what you make many feel when they see you live?”
Michael: That’s exactly what it is, you’re connected to a higher source and you just go with the moment and you become one with, you know, the spirit. Not to sound religious or anything, but it’s a very spiritual… very much like religion, and it’s a God-given gift and you just go with it. And I’m honored to have been given it. And, uh, as fun to become one with the audience. It’s a one-ness, you know?”

His views on music and the music of the spheres:
“And playing music, the grass and the trees and the flowers… They’re all influenced by music. They become more beautiful and more vibrant in how they grow. Music is a very important and powerful substance, and all the planets in the universe make music. It’s called music of the spheres. They all make a different note; they make harmony. So there’s harmony even in the universe as we speak.”
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''I`m a visionary and a creative person. God blessed me with certain talents. I hate to use an analogy, but Walt Disney was creative but not good with business. His brother Roy handled the books. He loved creating family-oriented entertainment and so do I. I feel that was a gift and I have that gift also. I`m very honored to have been chosen.''

''I will never stop helping and loving people the way Jesus said to.'' [is that the correct quote]

''Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation.''

''When I see children, I see the face of God. That`s why I love them so much. That`s what I see.''
 
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redriddinghood, there is just one Faith that leads to God and that is belief and acceptance in Jesus as your Lord and Savior! He is the only Way the Truth and the Life,
and there is no other way to reach God We are all sinners and can not reach God on our own but Jesus paid the price for us by dying on the Cross and we are covered by His sacrafice just by opening your heart to Jesus ! He is my Lord annd Savior!
 
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mary said:
redriddinghood, there is just one Faith that leads to God and that is belief and acceptance in Jesus as your Lord and Savior! He is the only Way the Truth and the Life,
and there is no other way to reach God We are all sinners and can not reach God on our own but Jesus paid the price for us by dying on the Cross and we are covered by His sacrafice just by opening your heart to Jesus ! He is my Lord annd Savior!
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Yes indeed, not sure why you are telling me that, maybe you have misinterpreted my post?
My issue here is that people are saying it's ok to be a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon and use different bibles, as long as you believe in Jesus then we are all the same, which I very much disagree with.
I also have issue with the Catholic church and their worship of Mary/Saints and praying to statues, but that's a whole other argument that I'd rather not get into!
 
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For me there is only one Bible and that is the Only Word of our Lord and Savior

i do not believe that it is ok to use other Bibles and still believe in Jesus if you do not believe the Bible is Gods Word how can you be a true believer and have contact with The one and only God

i am Pentecostal i used to be Catholic and i too have problems with praying to saints and the such,

what denomination are you?
 
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Those quotes by Michael are beautiful. I believe he truly loved God.

My brother has the flu, but his seems more milder. He didn't have to take the test for swine flu. He didn't want to come home, but we'll see how that goes...haha. And he is not taking his exams tonight. I'm praying for him!!
 
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Redridinghood said:
Yes indeed, not sure why you are telling me that, maybe you have misinterpreted my post?
My issue here is that people are saying it's ok to be a Jehovah's Witness or Mormon and use different bibles, as long as you believe in Jesus then we are all the same, which I very much disagree with.
I also have issue with the Catholic church and their worship of Mary/Saints and praying to statues, but that's a whole other argument that I'd rather not get into!
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I totally agree with you here, Redridinghood. I believe in the use of one Bible, and we are not all united because we believe in God/Jesus. Jesus Christ is the only way to get into Heaven. He is the way, the truth and the life and NOBODY comes to the Father except through Him.

I also hate it when other believers re-write the Bible to their own liking, meaning they bend the meaning of scripture and just do whatever they want with their life.

Just my two cents.
 
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smoothcriminal12 said:
Why are you posting that? Are you trying to make us un-Christian?
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That person is on my ignore list, I suggest you all do the same. I don't even see what he posted. And if he keeps harrassing us here, report the post.

Funny, they said yesterday that they would not tread into this thread and bother us. I guess we can go to their thread and post Salvation scripture!!
 
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Redridinghood said:
I am out of this thread. God loves everybody but all faiths DO NOT lead to God.
If you're all gonna start jumping on the 'all faith' train then I won't be joining you.
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I am with you on that one, so you are not alone. Please stay!!
 
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I also hate it when other believers re-write the Bible to their own liking, meaning they bend the meaning of scripture and just do whatever they want with their life.
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to be fair theres many translations of it. if ppl want the orginal surely they should read it in the language it was written or at least translate it into your own language from the original. from what ive read the JW comes closest as they take it from the original language
 
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i dont know how believers of any religion can be so forth rightin saying mines right and your wrong its so sactimonious and patronsing to others and ppl wonder why religious wars start.. question for those on here who are say protestant or whatever. have u studied every other religion that excists properly and then picked what u believe and do u just believe what u do cause your parents told u its the truth and everything else is wrong.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
to be fair theres many translations of it. if ppl want the orginal surely they should read it in the language it was written or at least translate it into your own language from the original. from what ive read the JW comes closest as they take it from the original language
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Not even talking about the different translations, here, elusive!! I mean people in general applying certain things to their daily lives, that are not even in the Bible, but making it that way.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
i dont know how believers of any religion can be so forth rightin saying mines right and your wrong its so sactimonious and patronsing to others and ppl wonder why religious wars start.. question for those on here who are say protestant or whatever. have u studied every other religion that excists properly and then picked what u believe and do u just believe what u do cause your parents told u its the truth and everything else is wrong.
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I am not trying to say mine is right, but I know what the Bible tells me, Elusive, anything more than that does not matter to me. The Bible, God's word does.

And you post in the aithest thread, and do not believe, so why post here? We are not bothering you.
 
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I also have issue with the Catholic church and their worship of Mary/Saints and praying to statues, but that's a whole other argument that I'd rather not get into!
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yeah dont get me started on that lol go to the vatican and see crazy ppl touching the feet on a statue of some "saint" why do they think they will win the lottery the next night or there was a story of ppl in ireland going to look at the leg bone of some woman who was declared a saint centuries ago. yes they are taking her leg bone on a tour of europe so ppl can look and go wow. whats with all the idolitry (sp) in the catholic church. the bible speaks out about that yet why are they so obssessed with worshiping ppl other than god? when thats totally against the teachings of the bible.you worship god not the pope who live in wealth and splendor in the vatican.(ive been there in the musuems and seen it) its disgusting calling yourself christians amassing all that wealth from dodgy means when there is so much poverty in the world.spending all that money building churches when at the same time ppl were dieing of illness and proverty. false religion at its finest imo. u think god would approve when it goes against everything that it says in the teachings.
 
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Earth_Song1 said:
Not even talking about the different translations, here, elusive!! I mean people in general applying certain things to their daily lives, that are not even in the Bible, but making it that way.
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well thats the hypocrasey of organsied religion. picking and chosing and changing things to suit agendas or to get ppl through the doors.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
well thats the hypocrasey of organsied religion. picking and chosing and changing things to suit agendas or to get ppl through the doors.
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I follow my Bible, and that's my choice. As you have yours.

Respect our thread and we will respect yours.
 
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Earth_Song1 said:
I am not trying to say mine is right, but I know what the Bible tells me, Elusive, anything more than that does not matter to me. The Bible, God's word does.

And you post in the aithest thread, and do not believe, so why post here? We are not bothering you.
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its a discussion board why cant i discuss in this thread. . have u studied every other religion and come to the conclusion your form of christianity suits u? cause otherwise how can ppl come to that belief.
 
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Earth_Song1 said:
I follow my Bible, and that's my choice. As you have yours.

Respect our thread and we will respect yours.
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i was replying to the below question/point there was no disrespect given. im sorry if u dont want to have a discussion on things

Not even talking about the different translations, here, elusive!! I mean people in general applying certain things to their daily lives, that are not even in the Bible, but making it that way.
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elusive moonwalker said:
its a discussion board why cant i discuss in this thread. . have u studied every other religion and come to the conclusion your form of christianity suits u? cause otherwise how can ppl come to that belief.
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Well, would you want us to come there and post bible verses on salvation? I don't think so.

And I was brought up a Christian, and will always be a Christian. Enough said.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
i was replying to the below question/point there was no disrespect given. im sorry if u dont want to have a discussion on things
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This thread is for other belivers and myself, and that's who I want to discuss Christ with them, who share my belief. That's all.
 
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And I was brought up a Christian, and will always be a Christian. Enough said.
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thanks you answered my question and proved my point.


the three main religons all worship the same God isnt the aim for ppl to find that god yet religious ppl have to fight and argu about how u get there. doesnt it matter that u reach the same destination regardless or whether one person goes up the hill one way and another the other way. u think god cares about how ppl reach him not that they actually get there in the first place. its human beings who have to make a competion out of everything and say my ways better than yours. and then fight over it. god would hardly be impressed would he.
 
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Redridinghood: I agree about JW and Mormons - they have very different beliefs to the other denominations of Christian. Especially when it comes to end times. I don't know enough about it to authoritively comment.

Anyway to answer Elusive's question about whether we have studied other religions first...my answer to that is no. I have never felt the need personally. I have felt things, seen things, and read things in the one and only bible I consider to be the Word of God which make me know in my heart of hearts that this is the right thing for me to be a part of. I have faith in God. That is why I don't like to call it a religion but rather a faith.

I will happily share with others what I know from the Bible but I will never force my beliefs on anyone else. God has given us all a free will and whether or not we accept Jesus is our own choice.

It is my belief from God's Word (the bible) that we are all sinners who fall short of the presence of God. This is why He sent His Son Jesus into the World to pay for our sins on the Cross. By accepting Jesus as payment for our sins, we are given salvation by grace, through faith.

Back on the Mormon and JW thing...
No matter what denomination of Christian one is, this is the fundimental belief. This is where I think they may differ. I also don't agree with anyone feeling the need to add to, or subract from the bible.

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Catholics I believe are Christian however I personally disagree with some of their rituals. But it is not for me to judge so all I say is each to their own.

I will live my life as Jesus tells us to...loving my neighbours, doing unto others as I would have them do unto me...etc. It is a good way to live.
 
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Re: Any Believers in Jesus Christ Here?

And I know it has not really been mentioned, but this is how I understand the relationship between Jews and Christians.

Jews and Christians worship the same God (I do not believe that Muslims worship this same God). That is the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. The difference between Jews and Christians is that Christians recognise Jesus as the Messiah prophisied about who would come to save the world. Jews are still waiting for the Messiah.

Jews are God's chosen people. God through Abraham has a covenent with the Jews that they will be blessed. All you need to do is look at Israel today - a tiny spec of a Country in terms of size and yet the whole world fixates on it. And their military is second to none.

By sending His only Son to die on the cross for our sins and then rise again after 3 days, God was opening up this blessing to the "gentiles" also. That is non Jews.

So now Christians are waiting on the second coming of Jesus, Jews continue to await the first coming of their Messiah.

Sadly the Jews just don't see that Jesus was the Messiah that was prophesied about. There are hundreds of prophesies in the Old Testament and Jesus fits them all. The probability that one person could fill all those is next to impossible.

I love the Jews. They are God's people. I just wish that they could see that their Messiah has come. There are many jews that do recognise Jesus as their saviour. Messianic Jews.
 
Re: Any Believers in Jesus Christ Here?

I'm Catholic, my dad is Maltese and began training to be a priest but did not complete his training, we know priests in Italy, Malta and here and I can safely say..

Catholics do NOT 'worship' Mary, the saints, or the Pope. Catholics 'worship' noone but God.

Mary and the Saints are held in high esteem because Mary is the mother of Jesus Christ and the Saints are good people in the image of Christ.

We dont 'worship' statues. We look at them to remind us.. like you have a photo of a friend/family in your house... and praying to Saints/Mary is not worshipping, it is asking for help.. just like you could ask a friend.

Keep discussion respectful please. Don't make fun of things or insult.
 
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