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And he was found innocent, I think they should broadcast this fact far and wide. ALso, did you guys know that there was a stalker??
From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091222/en_nm/us_jackson_3
FBI's Michael Jackson files reveal stalker details

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By Steve Gorman Steve Gorman – Tue Dec 22, 4:19 pm ET
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – The FBI on Tuesday released hundreds of previously sealed documents related to Michael Jackson, most of them about a 1992 investigation of a man who threatened to kill the pop star and then-U.S. President George H.W. Bush.
The records include numerous threatening letters sent by the suspect, who the FBI said had falsely claimed to be the son of then-Gambino crime boss John Gotti and was initially ruled
mentally incompetent to go to trial.
The suspect, whose name was concealed in the heavily redacted FBI records, eventually pleaded guilty to a federal charge of mailing a threatening communication and was sentenced to two years in prison, the FBI said.
The files, however, included newspaper clippings about the case that identified the man as Frank Paul Jones, a 34-year-old fan obsessed with Jackson's sister, singer Janet Jackson.
According to news accounts at the time, the New York man had been arrested at the White House for an attempted illegal entry, and was arrested a month later on the grounds of the Jacksons' parents home in Los Angeles.
In one letter, the suspect wrote: "If they do not arrest me or solve my problem, I'm gonna attempt to kill President George Bush." In another, he threatens to "commit mass murder at a Michael Jackson concert, if necessary" and to "personally attempt to kill (Jackson) if he doesn't pay me my money."
The files, made public in response to requests under the federal Freedom of Information Act, also reveal the FBI's role in assisting California police in investigating child sexual abuse allegations against Jackson, who died in June at age 50.
The first case in 1993 was closed without authorities bringing charges against Jackson, who ultimately settled a related civil action for more than $20 million. In 2005 a jury acquitted Jackson of molestation charges in a separate case.
(Editing by Bob Tourtellotte and Paul Simao)
 
I agree. The fact that the FBI even investigated and that they could find nothing.

But it's good news about the trial. So we know why it's not being broadcasted.

I was wondering, I guess NO ONE knew the FBI was investigating during the trial?

Because I'm sure if someone knew, it would have spreaded everywhere. But then, I can see why they would keep it so much on the downlow. If everyone knew the FBI were investigating, and if Michael was proven innocent, more people would have really believed the truth since they knew that even the FBI wasn't even helpful in the bogus case.
 
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This kinda goes along with my original theory...that someone got close to MJ...someone who wasn't Murray, that knew enough about the drip rate to increase it ever so slightly....someone who wanted MJ dead....
 
LindaC781 said:
This kinda goes along with my original theory...that someone got close to MJ...someone who wasn't Murray, that knew enough about the drip rate to increase it ever so slightly....someone who wanted MJ dead....
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You know what? You're right.

Their were hidden people working silently behind the 2005 molestation madness against Michael.

Their can very well be someone or some people hidden behind Michael's murder too.

We just have to wait until we recieve further info from the lapd and official autopsy before we can really start putting everything together.
 
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you know what caught my attention beside they clearly had nothing on mj and jordan refused to participate is the incident of a social worker and her husband reporting to the FBI that she suspected there was something wrong going between mj and jordan in march 1993 , I really believe they did contact Evan at the time and he got his whole plan from that incident .

Evan reffered to something from the past in his phone call with David Shwartz , I do believe that was it .
 
I think MJ, just like many other celebrities, had many stalkers.

I don't mean to interfere with the discussion about conspiration, but I feel I need to correct a few details , about the FBI files.

The call from Toronto about the train incident was taken on 24th aug 93, so after the allegations were made public, probably in the middle of a media frenzy about the case.

The incident on the train supposedly happened in march 92, and I think at that time Michael had not even met Jordan.

But of course it is still possible that Evan Chandler heard about it, or heard about other stories.
 
thought the incident on the train was with brett barnes or is that something else
 
elusive moonwalker said:
thought the incident on the train was with brett barnes or is that something else
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I think so too, given the date (march 92)

Or that there was no incident at all. That it could have been another false allegation, given the date the call was taken, and that the FBI did not seem think it was a serious lead, if I understand correctly.
 
the call was made in march or augest ?it was jordan not brett elusive , and it was the same incident
 
i must have read something wrong then cause im sure i read something about brett at the ranch on the train. dunno confused. not that it really matters
 
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No, I think they met in may 92. That's why I think that if this incident is true, it's about another boy, possibly Brett Barnes.
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ok maybe thats where im confused cause i read it said brett barnes in some articles and considering how brett and family came to support mj in 2005 we know what B.S that story is. im surprised sneddon didnt call the social worker to the stand in 05
 
Yes, so am I.
I doubt this train story is true. It was probably just another accusation, the FBI investigated it, and found nothing.
 
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ok maybe thats where im confused cause i read it said brett barnes in some articles and considering how brett and family came to support mj in 2005 we know what B.S that story is. im surprised sneddon didnt call the social worker to the stand in 05
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He did not call the social worker because he did not have a real case with legit witnesses
 
didnt stop him calling francia etc lol so i wonder why he stopped there. after all he had ppl testifying to seeing abuse to brett barnes even though brett came and denied it all.
 
OK, it's a bit difficult for me, I'm not a native English speker, and not used to the American legal system or police organisation.

Something else that makes it difficult is that the FBI files are not presented in chronological order.

Here is the link to the file again, just to make it easier :
http://foia.fbi.gov/jackson_michael/62d-la-162715.PDF

I went through it again, well parts of it.

On 24th august 93 there are 2 notes :
- a call at 1.30 pm about the train incident that supposedly happened on march 2nd or 7th 92 (page 54 of the doc)
- another call at 3pm about the supposed restraining order in NYC

page 20 & 21 : a report of communications and meetings between the LAPD and the FBI about the case, in early september 93. It says that the LAPD contacted the FBI to "inquire if the FBI would be interested in working a possible federal violation against Jackson concerning the transportation of a minor across state lines for immoral purposes (MANN Act)".
The FBI answered that the US attorney was not interested in prosecuting MJ under the Mann Act, but would help the LAPD in their investigation, if needed .

Could this be the answer to your question (elusive moonwalker) about the train incident ?

It seems that the FBI transmitted the info to the LAPD, and whatever the LAPD found about it did not seem consistent enough for the FBI.
 
thanks well it gives the date so ppl presume its brett. tbh i cant be bothered reading the files if it gives names etc. at the end of the day it doesnt really matter. if someone wants to then thanks but otherwise im not to fussed
 
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