The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Thanx Dangerous! Where do you get all of this info???

And yes, the random fire alarm evacuation in UCLA never sat well with me since the start...Everyone was put out while the family and a select number of staff were allowed to remain inside...? Doesn't make much sense to me.
 
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Thanx Dangerous! Where do you get all of this info???

And yes, the random fire alarm evacuation in UCLA never sat well with me since the start...Everyone was put out while the family and a select number of staff were allowed to remain inside...? Doesn't make much sense to me.

You'd be surprised how many people out there actually think MJ is alive. It seems to be that mainly the die hard MJ fans dont believe he is alive as they think it is disrespectful for some reason.
 
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You'd be surprised how many people out there actually think MJ is alive. It seems to be that mainly the die hard MJ fans dont believe he is alive as they think it is disrespectful for some reason.

Thera are just TOO MANY things that don´t add up.. I feel like I have to at least consider that he might be alive!
 
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This is a very painful but extremely informative thread.
Every inconsistency finds its place here.
I agree that too many people believe Michael is still alive, and this has never occured to that extent in other celebrities deaths.
My point is how are we supposed to carry on when the official version is involuntary manslaughter,the unofficial is murder, and the "beyond the curtain" is he is still out there somewhere?
I am confused and stressed beyond words.
But no matter how I feel, the truth is one.I pray it's the best for him and his children.
Never mind the pain, never mind the tears.
 
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Jackson Musical Creditor's Claim

Posted Nov 2nd 2009 1:10 PM by TMZ Staff
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Old Man Creditor ...​
just keeps rollin' along.​
Yet another Michael Jackson creditor's claim ...​

This time 4 Video Digital Audio, Inc. wants $ 736,502.59 for rented sound recording and audio equipment "in connection with the making of a musical."

Michael is listed as the performer and the producer.​

Here's what's interesting: One of the bills lists the start date of 6 / 9 and the finish date of 6 / 25 ...
the day Jackson died.​



This Is It is a musical with Michael as a performer and producer. The rehearsals were also filmed within these dates!!
 
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However, why would it be "in connection with the making of a musical" if This Is It wasn't going to BE a movie in the first place?
 
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These two events Dangerous Incorporated quoted are soo strange...I heard about the first one, but nothing about the air-port, IF that`s true, then I may go to the hoax believers side. I try to push those thoughts away and say MJ is really gone and I shouldn`t waste my time reading this stuff, but it`s too difficult when this crap is happening, we need to investigate it, but also be sceptical.
 
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These two events Dangerous Incorporated quoted are soo strange...I heard about the first one, but nothing about the air-port, IF that`s true, then I may go to the hoax believers side. I try to push those thoughts away and say MJ is really gone and I shouldn`t waste my time reading this stuff, but it`s too difficult when this crap is happening, we need to investigate it, but also be sceptical.

Same.

I'd never heard of the airport one before, and it's pretty damn fascinating if true.
 
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But you know, anyone can make up such story if knows that some flights were cancelled...There is one site where people put "MJ`s recent pictures", make up stories how they met him, maby that`s same here...
 
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I was following a hoax-related blog with a story called
The True story at Lily and Jack. Half-hearted knew Mao too.
It was a beautiful,allegoric love story filled with hints from Michael's life.

The site has been put up for sale in December and the story ended abruptly about a year before it was supposed to end.
Has anyone heard of it?
 
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I dont believe that it was an imposter at the 02 PC. But I have to admit that I am having a hard time matching up the 2 hands of MJ:
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Plus there it is said that these 2 Michael's are different but personally I think MJ probably just had a little touch-up work done just like when he was visiting Klein all the time:
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I am so sure this is Michael, 1000000% sure, don`t even want to talk about it, just say this is him, that`s it:)
About Klein..he said MJ wanted to look as good as it is possible during the TII concerts and I believe MJ had injections and surgery before March 5
 
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I also think it was Michael. Someone pointed out though that usually Michael is so humble where as he was being brash and foward.
 
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I read somewhere he was talking a lot about the end of the world in 2012, he probably believed that`s gonna happen, so maby that`s why he wrote 2012. Because in his hands we see the second picture, with yellow letters. I wonder if the first one with red letters is real, why 2011?
Btw that`s quite and interesting photo to sign on.

Michael wanted to take the "This is It"tour around the world. Maybe he was signing the cards for people who lived outside the UK and was anticipating when he would be intheir country. A long shot explanation but a possibility.
 
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This is a very painful but extremely informative thread.
Every inconsistency finds its place here.
I agree that too many people believe Michael is still alive, and this has never occured to that extent in other celebrities deaths.
My point is how are we supposed to carry on when the official version is involuntary manslaughter,the unofficial is murder, and the "beyond the curtain" is he is still out there somewhere?
I am confused and stressed beyond words.
But no matter how I feel, the truth is one.I pray it's the best for him and his children.
Never mind the pain, never mind the tears.

i have never paid attention to other celebrity hoax theories. in Michael's case, however, there are just so many little and big things i couldn't ignore. in fact, i shouldn't probably say this as i can't find proof anymore, but i can't resist...right after the events of june 25, when they were saying that Prince was called by Dr Murray to witness his resuscitation attempts, i read that LaToya was asked about this, and her reaction was incredulous, saying how could that be when the children were at Encino? i was already mourning at the time and just felt glad that Prince was spared. however, as we all know, the story has changed. i don't really think Prince witnessed anything, anyway, because Kai said that she and the children huddled in prayer when Murray came down shouting.

there's also this matter of Tohme returning the $5.5M belatedly - you know, something like why didn't he return it right away? something like he didn't intend to return it, but someone 'forced' him to. of course it's all speculation on my part, but the fact in itself is interesting.
 
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Remember the whole Murray child custody hearing?

Well here is the lawyer for Murray's ex-girlfriend:
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And here he is now at Michael's funeral!:
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I dont believe that it was an imposter at the 02 PC. But I have to admit that I am having a hard time matching up the 2 hands of MJ:
hand-compare-3.jpg

hand-compare-2.jpg

palmistry1.jpg

hand-compare-2a.jpg


Plus there it is said that these 2 Michael's are different but personally I think MJ probably just had a little touch-up work done just like when he was visiting Klein all the time:
58883011.jpg

The O2 Michael has a bigger chin. Like more distance between bottom lip and bottom of chin. But that could be something Klein did......
 
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POP WARBLER Michael Jackson kept an astonishing “death-hoax diary” explaining how he would fake his death of a heart attack and telling when he would come out of hiding, a family friend who claims to have found the journal “among Michael’s personal effects” tells.
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ALIVE - OR NOT? You be the judge.



“There’s too much pressure, pressure, pressure … pressure everywhere I turn …” a diary entry dated Nov. 17, 2008 is alleged to say in part.


“I don’t know who I am, not anmore (sp). Maybe I’m just a father to my children.

Maybe I’m washed up.


“The drugs are (illegible) a toll … (illegible) … I’m not addict. But I can’t stop …


“If Elvis … (illegible) … so can I.


“I’ll have a ‘heart attack’ from drugs like he did (yeah, right!)


“I’ll come back, but only when I’m ready. Bigger than Elvis in ‘69.


“Maybe 2009 at Christmas. Or maybe the New Year is better.


“A back-from-dead tour, a real Thriller. But I have to rest. I’m tired. I’m not (thinking) clearly.


“It’s the drugs.


“A lot of fans still love me. (Some) people hate me. Thing (sp) will be different (after this) …”


Jackson insiders declined to comment – officially – on the report. But as one privately put it, “We love Michael no matter what.”


The friend who leaked portions of the diary also was tight lipped, saying only, “There are over 60 pages (of it) that I will release to the family through my lawyer and they can do what they want with it. It doesn’t belong to me. It belongs to Michael and his loved ones.”


Other sources confirm that Jackson, 50, had spoken of a death hoax “on several occasions” in 2008 and also in 2009, although the reported discovery of the diary that outlines his plans seemed to come as a surprise to everyone.



A paint-by-numbers account of a death hoax, in the superstar’s own handwriting, could lead to serious legal problems, say legal observers, especially if the journal is perceived by insurance companies and the authorities to be a blueprint for fraud.


“I hope to God the diary is legit,” said a Jackson confidante who requested anonymity. “If Michael really is alive, if he orchestrated all this, if he faked his own death, then nobody will be happier than me. As for fraud – nope, no way.


“Michael wouldn’t commit fraud. He’s not trying to collect insurance. He’s protecting himself. He’s doing this for his children. I’ll guarantee it.”


News of Jackson’s “death” on June 25 stunned the world. In fact, within hours of the ann0uncement by authorities, fans had already begun to speculate that he was still alive and had gone into hiding. Subsequent reports suggested that he was, indeed, perpetrating a hoax to escape the pressures of life in the public eye.


It was reported Jackson had been spirited to Asheville, North Carolina and then to Eastern Europe, where it is thought that he might be holed up in Hungary, or even in Russia, where hundreds of people claim to have spotted him in Moscow.
 
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POP WARBLER Michael Jackson kept an astonishing “death-hoax diary” explaining how he would fake his death of a heart attack and telling when he would come out of hiding, a family friend who claims to have found the journal “among Michael’s personal effects” tells.
michael-jackson-bad.jpg
ALIVE - OR NOT? You be the judge.



“There’s too much pressure, pressure, pressure … pressure everywhere I turn …” a diary entry dated Nov. 17, 2008 is alleged to say in part.


“I don’t know who I am, not anmore (sp). Maybe I’m just a father to my children.

Maybe I’m washed up.


“The drugs are (illegible) a toll … (illegible) … I’m not addict. But I can’t stop …


“If Elvis … (illegible) … so can I.


“I’ll have a ‘heart attack’ from drugs like he did (yeah, right!)


“I’ll come back, but only when I’m ready. Bigger than Elvis in ‘69.


“Maybe 2009 at Christmas. Or maybe the New Year is better.


“A back-from-dead tour, a real Thriller. But I have to rest. I’m tired. I’m not (thinking) clearly.


“It’s the drugs.


“A lot of fans still love me. (Some) people hate me. Thing (sp) will be different (after this) …”


Jackson insiders declined to comment – officially – on the report. But as one privately put it, “We love Michael no matter what.”


The friend who leaked portions of the diary also was tight lipped, saying only, “There are over 60 pages (of it) that I will release to the family through my lawyer and they can do what they want with it. It doesn’t belong to me. It belongs to Michael and his loved ones.”


Other sources confirm that Jackson, 50, had spoken of a death hoax “on several occasions” in 2008 and also in 2009, although the reported discovery of the diary that outlines his plans seemed to come as a surprise to everyone.



A paint-by-numbers account of a death hoax, in the superstar’s own handwriting, could lead to serious legal problems, say legal observers, especially if the journal is perceived by insurance companies and the authorities to be a blueprint for fraud.


“I hope to God the diary is legit,” said a Jackson confidante who requested anonymity. “If Michael really is alive, if he orchestrated all this, if he faked his own death, then nobody will be happier than me. As for fraud – nope, no way.


“Michael wouldn’t commit fraud. He’s not trying to collect insurance. He’s protecting himself. He’s doing this for his children. I’ll guarantee it.”


News of Jackson’s “death” on June 25 stunned the world. In fact, within hours of the ann0uncement by authorities, fans had already begun to speculate that he was still alive and had gone into hiding. Subsequent reports suggested that he was, indeed, perpetrating a hoax to escape the pressures of life in the public eye.


It was reported Jackson had been spirited to Asheville, North Carolina and then to Eastern Europe, where it is thought that he might be holed up in Hungary, or even in Russia, where hundreds of people claim to have spotted him in Moscow.


whoa!! Where did you find this??
 
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What's the point in placing it?
If you would just take the time to get more informed you might just be responding the same as a lot of other people in here.
It has been said many many many many times before we are not saying we know he is alive we are pointing out the weird stuff surrounding his death.
 
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thanks for the article :)

..my comment trashy? ..or were you not talking to me?


In fact I am very interested in all af this :)

No it wasn't about you ;) the person I was talking about already replied :p
To be honest I don't really believe what's in the article but you never know right?
 
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I also think it was Michael. Someone pointed out though that usually Michael is so humble where as he was being brash and foward.

I noticed that too. It could be though that Michael hadn't made a public appearance for a long time and he was nervous about the impact of the announcement?
However,he seemed a lot younger than in TII and -how can I put it- very superficial or staged, if you know what I mean.
 
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