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Was 911 Called From MJ's House Or Elsewhere?

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Im not saying this is factual, Im asking for your opinion.

In the fake ambulance thread, I posted this pic:
mdt-michael-jackson1.jpg


I hadnt paid any attention to what was written on the screen before.

It states the info from the original call:
ORIGINAL W911 INFO (12:21:04) - 9461 SUNSET BL. P: image blurred LAT: 34.08118800 LON:-118.425086

Michael lived at 100 North Carolwood Dr. Not 9461 Sunset Blvd which is actually a Hotel 3 mins away from where Michael lived.
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www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Beverly+...&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjJ5mOqOziwSIUl_IF-qOWkDYA7tw
 
How would they know that address when the call was made from a cell phone (it says Verizon Wireless)? Maybe the Sunset Blvd. address was given as the address for the cell phone account.
 
Odd to have your billing address for a mobile at a Hotel though isnt it unless they dont want their mobile phone traced to a specific location that will identify them!
 
I am really confused over the 911 call.
The argument that nobody could call from any phone at MJ's home is simply ridiculous.
Now we have this info of the call being placed from a different address.
Could it be Murray's girlfriend address?
 
DI-I admire your post and threads and have been observing them lately in this section of the forum,we need to get to the bottom of what actually happened to Michael and i hope one day we do.
 
Kingofthedancefloor said:
DI-I admire your post and threads and have been observing them lately in this section of the forum,we need to get to the bottom of what actually happened to Michael and i hope one day we do.
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Thank you and I appreciate your comment. Yes we do need to filter through all the BS we are fed. Unfortunatly though there are more question than answers and we dont have all the information available to us. All we can do is point out the oddities surrounding MJ's passing. Im glad Joe is ruffling up a few feathers though.
 
Holy crap! I was of the impression the call was made from the Carolwood Dve house? I mean - you can hear the caller asking the doctor "Do you know what happened, doctor?" and then Murray says something inaudible... I thought he was still working on Michael at this point, he sounded frantic and kinda annoyed...

Crap.
 
I put those latitude and longitude coordinates into google maps, and they map to 100 Carolwood Drive. It looks like they are able to pinpoint the location of a cell phone when a 911 call is made.

I have no idea why the screen shows a different address for those coordinates, though.
 
diana79 said:
I put those latitude and longitude coordinates into google maps, and they map to 100 Carolwood Drive. It looks like they are able to pinpoint the location of a cell phone when a 911 call is made.

I have no idea why the screen shows a different address for those coordinates, though.
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Thank you for that. So the call was made from the house but the billing address as it a hotel 3 mins away.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Odd to have your billing address for a mobile at a Hotel though isnt it unless they dont want their mobile phone traced to a specific location that will identify them!
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You have a good point, but Michael's stay there was going to be temporary. The security could have been paid by Michael/AEG to stay in a nice hotel (I presume they circulated through various guards on different shifts) for a few months before heading off to London so they'd be totally prepared (being in a hotel for a few months in America has a similar amount of luggage as you'd need for having a hotel for a few months in London).

Can anyone verify (WITH sources, not just hearsay or speculation) whether or not the security guards were living in Michael's house (seems plausible since it was so big) or if they were living elsewhere (and where? hotel? local houses?).


Fluffy_Oz said:
Holy crap! I was of the impression the call was made from the Carolwood Dve house? I mean - you can hear the caller asking the doctor "Do you know what happened, doctor?" and then Murray says something inaudible... I thought he was still working on Michael at this point, he sounded frantic and kinda annoyed...

Crap.
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Unless you have super-amazing ears, it's not completely verifiable that it's Murray. If anything, the voice sounds high (not trying to say it's Michael, it doesn't sound like him from what I can hear, but then again we can barely hear anything), not Murray/Carter's low-ass voice.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Thank you for that. So the call was made from the house but the billing address as it a hotel 3 mins away.
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I don't know for sure that it's a billing address - that was just my theory. It's weird that the address wouldn't match with the latitude and longitude coordinates.
 
It's weird that that address has come up at all.

HOWEVER, I must remind you that it's not even 100% proven that this picture is legit as it is allegedly taken by the same pap, Ben, who took the ambulance pic. The fact that this pic was taken 1 min after the 911 call seems impossible to me.
 
Has anyone run a backward check on the phone number? I know we have an uncensored version around here or another MJ forum. I saw it the other day in one of your threads.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Im not saying this is factual, Im asking for your opinion.

In the fake ambulance thread, I posted this pic:
mdt-michael-jackson1.jpg


I hadnt paid any attention to what was written on the screen before.

It states the info from the original call:
ORIGINAL W911 INFO (12:21:04) - 9461 SUNSET BL. P: image blurred LAT: 34.08118800 LON:-118.425086

Michael lived at 100 North Carolwood Dr. Not 9461 Sunset Blvd which is actually a Hotel 3 mins away from where Michael lived.
mapa.jpg

www.mapquest.com/maps?city=Beverly+...&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjJ5mOqOziwSIUl_IF-qOWkDYA7tw
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Maybe this screen is showing more than one call.
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
It's weird that that address has come up at all.

HOWEVER, I must remind you that it's not even 100% proven that this picture is legit as it is allegedly taken by the same pap, Ben, who took the ambulance pic. The fact that this pic was taken 1 min after the 911 call seems impossible to me.
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Yeah, I agree about the timing. It seems nearly impossible that the fire truck would arrive within a minute of a 911 call coming in, unless the fire station was very, very close to the house.
 
Rawr said:
Unless you have super-amazing ears, it's not completely verifiable that it's Murray. If anything, the voice sounds high (not trying to say it's Michael, it doesn't sound like him from what I can hear, but then again we can barely hear anything), not Murray/Carter's low-ass voice.
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Of course you're right. Like I said - I'm working on assumptions. The caller addressed the doctor, so I assumed the reply came from the doctor.

When you're stressed your voice sometimes gets a little high-pitched, not saying this is what happened here - just that it happens.
 
^^I havent heard the 911 call for a little bit but can you hear an accent from the Dr in the background? Does it sound like Tohme?
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
It's weird that that address has come up at all.

HOWEVER, I must remind you that it's not even 100% proven that this picture is legit as it is allegedly taken by the same pap, Ben, who took the ambulance pic. The fact that this pic was taken 1 min after the 911 call seems impossible to me.
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Your right! They sure didn't get there in one minute! WTH!
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
^^I havent heard the 911 call for a little bit but can you hear an accent from the Dr in the background? Does it sound like Tohme?
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I haven't heard it for a while, either, it's painful to listen to.
It's definitely a male voice, to me it sounded kinda frantic and a little angry, but not clear enough to be able to tell the accent.

Hmmm... Interesting question, though. When he said 'doctor', I assumed Murray... Could that have been Thome?!
Has anyone actually spoken to the guy that made the call and asked him the details? Who was he talking to?
 
Fluffy_Oz said:
I haven't heard it for a while, either, it's painful to listen to.
It's definitely a male voice, to me it sounded kinda frantic and a little angry, but not clear enough to be able to tell the accent.

Hmmm... Interesting question, though. When he said 'doctor', I assumed Murray... Could that have been Thome?!
Has anyone actually spoken to the guy that made the call and asked him the details? Who was he talking to?
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I just listened to it again. It is Murray. You can tell by his accent and the tone of his voice.
 
Fluffy_Oz said:
I haven't heard it for a while, either, it's painful to listen to.
It's definitely a male voice, to me it sounded kinda frantic and a little angry, but not clear enough to be able to tell the accent.

Hmmm... Interesting question, though. When he said 'doctor', I assumed Murray... Could that have been Thome?!
Has anyone actually spoken to the guy that made the call and asked him the details? Who was he talking to?
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I doubt it was Tohme. Doesn't he have a really deep voice? At least Murray/Carter's voice was soft and somewhat high in the "sympathy" video.

Yeah, this does seem like Murray/Carter now. I'm going to mess around with the audio file in Audacity and see if I can warp it enough to get some words to make sense.
 
dont you recognize the voice who is talking to the 911 operator?
thats not a security guard
thats not alvarez
thas Michael in a disguised voice
 
molly450 said:
dont you recognize the voice who is talking to the 911 operator?
thats not a security guard
thats not alvarez
thas Michael in a disguised voice
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If you're talking about Michael's voice used in the Akon prank and the 'weatherman' video, you're really off... Michael's fake voice is Jewish, not Hispanic.


I'm a complete newbie in Audacity, so someone can probably do this better, but here's my analysis:


After being questioned on what happened, Conrad Murray/Robert Earl Carter is heard frantically saying something in the background. The security guy on the phone then tells the 911 operator that they need to hurry.

Obviously the 'doctor' never answered the security guy's question.

I know the last word he says is "come," and it sounds like one of the first few words is "ambulance."

There seem to be seven or eight syllables in what he's saying altogether:

1. The
2. Am
3. Bu
4. Lance
5. ????
6. ????
7. ???? (Or 'come' if this is the last syllable)
8. Come

My best guess based on context alone is that he's saying "The ambulance needs to come," but it seems to fit awkwardly.


Here's a .WAV file of an edited version (edited only to ease the listening experience and clarity) of Murray/Carter's part only.
Connie WAV

Here's an .MP3 file of the same edited version as the .WAV
Connie MP3

I'm also going to try to get reddit to work on this without them knowing it relates to the MJ case.
 
Dont be so quick to judge Michael speaks all kinds of "languages"
he has a voice box, like he used for the ghost movies.
 
Michael was creepy when he stayed in character as The Mayor during the Making Of Ghosts lol
 
on the first one,i hear lastly something that sounds like neccasary,sorry for my bad spelling.
 
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My friend worked on one version: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?lz1idyditzy

He says it sounds like "but they didn't come" at the end.

I submitted the links to reddit to see if they can work it out, but I won't be home until around 3pm EST or 8:30pm EST to check their findings. I'll post when I can.
 
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