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Michael Jackson Manslaughter Prelim - 30 Witnesses
22 minutes ago by TMZ Staff

TMZ has learned more than 2 dozen witnesses will testify at Dr. Conrad Murray's preliminary hearing in the Michael Jackson manslaughter case.

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Sources say the prelim will last roughly 2 weeks and approximately 30 witnesses will be called.

We're told there won't be a "Perry Mason" moment -- instead, prosecutors will lay out their case, piece by piece, to show Dr. Murray acted recklessly by medicating Michael with Propofol and other drugs at his home the day he died.

Sources say the witnesses include various medical experts, as well as 3 LAPD detectives who investigated the case.

And, we're told, prosecutors will present more evidence than in a typical manslaughter case, because the legal theory here is novel -- that a doctor committed a homicide in the treatment of a patient.
 
that's good to know.

ps: I like TMZ's choice of photos: Michael looking sad and Murray looking evil.
 
I am very nervous about this prelim. I am have just had severe mental health problems and not sure what I should do as regards to listening/reading about the case.
 
It's all so upsetting and I don't want it to push my recovery back but want to know what is happening.
 
angelofinnocence;3160524 said:
It's all so upsetting and I don't want it to push my recovery back but want to know what is happening.
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I think for ppl who cannot handle it, better to stay away from the "news". It is better for you, your health and people around you. At the same time I do not understand that kind of total "escapism" of enjoining his music and him only in many ways if justice was not served yet. I do not care that much about my helth, so I am going to be involved in this. For sure, it is not something I will enjoy.

I am sure some folks will remain in “gold pants” thread and similar "easy" threads forever. Who cares? That right.
 
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I hope Michael get justice,but he´ll never get his life back.
 
MIST;3160574 said:
I hope Michael get justice,but he´ll never get his life back.
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sad truth :(

still I think if there's God, justice should be served, otherwise it would be too wrong and unfair...
 
Justice won't replace this pain in my heart, it'll only numb it for a few days.


I still think this should be upped to homicide though.
 
AnnieRUOkay89 said:
I still think this should be upped to homicide though.
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you mean murder I think.

because homicide is the act of human killing another human and IVM is one of the possible charges for homicide.
 
Homicide has different degrees, manslaughter is under that branch as well. Personally I'm feeling sick about it, I really am. Michael deserves justice and we just cannot let the wrong outcome come at the end of all this. I know it won't bring him back but let this be a lesson. Doctors are there to care for their patients, not be governed by greed and endanger the very life they should be protecting. He acted recklessly and a man died because of it. If he had stuck to his oath this wouldn't be happening and we wouldn't be in so much pain and three kids shouldn't have been made fatherless.
 
MIST;3160574 said:
I hope Michael get justice,but he´ll never get his life back.
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Justice is never anything to do with bringing him or anybody who was killed back. Justice is about a proper “balance”, which is very important for this world's future and for humanity. Justice is nothing to do with healing our personal pain either.
 
This is good news. Still keeping my head up on the prosecution though.....I still don't trust them.

These charges need to be bumped up to murder.

How could Murray have accidently killed this begging hardcore drug addict if there was not any sign of addiction in the autopsy???

That is a question he must answer in court, along with how he thought cpr with one hand on a bed would be so effective. I think that's the first question they must ask him.
 
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I feel the irony of TMZ:


MsCassieMollie said:
And, we're told, prosecutors will present more evidence than in a typical manslaughter case, because the legal theory here is novel -- that a doctor committed a homicide in the treatment of a patient.
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:smilerolleyes:



Well....


I do not know why, but I feel that this prelim will be a big mess. FEAR!!! :bugeyed
 
I don't think it will be a mess. Was the standard of care met? No you have a heart doctor treating a patent with something he was not trained and had no idea how to do. No equipment and was on his phone while the guy he was treating was dying. And to top it off he was doing it in a home setting. And tmz is just silly like they know word for word line for line what is going to happen I mean really Harvey?
 
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^ I agree.

Actually, if JUSTICE is truly sought by the prosecution. And they do everything in there power for it, this IM case can win.

But I don't like this small IM charges still.....It doesn't look like IM when one takes a look at the entire picture. Including Michael not being an addict. It all just doesn't add up with murray claiming Michael begged him for it and was starting to get addicted. That contradicts the evidence.
 
angelofinnocence said:
I am very nervous about this prelim. I am have just had severe mental health problems and not sure what I should do as regards to listening/reading about the case.
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I would stay away from TV. That alone will eliminate a lot of unnecesary garbage

from being heard.
 
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I am really confused by the US system of justice. What means this now:

Tuesday, December 28 2010
(Los Angeles, CA) -- Attorneys for Michael Jackson's former doctor are scheduled to appear in court Wednesday, just days before the start of a preliminary hearing.

Attorneys for Dr. Conrad Murray requested the advance hearing to discuss prosecutors' plans to admit medical evidence they say needs to be tested.

The defense claims prosecutors have blocked their efforts to test the evidence for several months now. Prosecutors deny the claims.

On Monday, prosecutors filed paperwork asking the judge to allow the medical evidence to be tested in a private laboratory at the defense's expense.

Dr. Murray has pleaded not guilty to a charge of involuntary manslaughter following Jackson's death last year.

The doctor admits to administering the sedative Propofol as a sleep aid for the pop star, but denies any wrongdoing.

A preliminary hearing is scheduled to begin next Tuesday, January 4th to determine if there is enough evidence for Murray to stand trial.

TMZ.com cites sources who say the hearing could last up to two weeks with more than two dozen witnesses expected to testify.

(Copyright 2010 by VERTEXNews/Newsroom Solutions)

http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=377626

Hearing set in case of Michael Jackson's doctor
Dec 27, 2010 at 6:02 PM PST

Prosecutors filed court papers Monday asking a judge to allow medical evidence to be tested in a private laboratory — at the defense's expense — in the case of the doctor charged in the death of pop superstar Michael Jackson.

In a nine-page court filing, Deputy District Attorney David Walgren asked Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor to allow the defense for Dr. Conrad Murray to be given half of the residue from two syringes and fluid contained in an IV tube "so that they can hire and pay for their own defense- requested testing.''

The prosecutor wrote that the defense's contention that the prosecution has prevented it from having the requested testing conducted is "untrue,'' and that the prosecution has "insisted that the testing be done right.''

Walgren noted that an alternative to a private laboratory would be to have the testing done by the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office, which he wrote has "advised that the testing would be experimental, that the interpretation of the data would be difficult, and that the defense-requested testing may consume or alter the original evidence.''

One of Murray's attorneys, J. Michael Flanagan, told the judge last month that "it would have been easier to test it back in June or July of 2009, but now we are stuck with what we can do and we would like to do it as soon as possible.''

The judge has set a hearing Wednesday to discuss the issue, which has surfaced repeatedly in the past 1 1/2 months.

http://www.wavenewspapers.com/enter...ase-of-Michael-Jacksons-doctor-112529524.html
 
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i think it means that the prosecution doesn't want to pay for the tests that it doesn't consider relevant?...
 
tmz are so full of ish. the prosectuion said weeks ago at the previous hearing how many witnesses they expected to call and how long it would last. yet tmz like to act like they have some inside info from a source. bunch of retards
 
angelofinnocence said:
I am very nervous about this prelim. I am have just had severe mental health problems and not sure what I should do as regards to listening/reading about the case.
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follow it on the boards. theres no need to watch news reports etc.thats the most important advice imo and how ppl got through 03-05.u read everything on the message baords in a safe environment and the prelim should be "easy" so to speak as its pretty much all prosecution.

the real issue is when the actual trial begins. now that will be bad.and could still be a good 9 months away
 
This is going to be hard to watch what happens. I hope he will go to trial. He should be in jail.
 
The Fans if able should gather from all around the globe for who... Michael Jackson. He needs support. This is not over.


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souldreamer7
 
DA: Murray will say Jackson killed himself


Published: Dec. 29, 2010 at 11:30 PM

LOS ANGELES, Dec. 29 (UPI) -- Conrad Murray's legal team plans to argue in the physician's involuntary manslaughter trial that U.S. pop star Michael Jackson killed himself, prosecutors say.
Murray is accused of improperly administering sedatives and anesthesia to Jackson in an effort to help the music icon sleep. Jackson died June 25, 2009, at age 50.
"I do think it's clear the defense is operating under the theory that the victim, Michael Jackson, killed himself," Deputy District Attorney David Walgren said in court Wednesday, a Los Angeles District Attorney's Office spokeswoman confirmed to E! News. "They don't want to say it but that's the direction in which they are going."
Murray's lawyers declined "to respond to that characterization," E! News said.
A preliminary hearing in the case is scheduled for Jan. 4.




http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_Ne...ay-Jackson-killed-himself/UPI-89611293683421/




Congratulations to those fans and some members of the family who had done a lot to this. If I would have been Murray I would have written a "Thank you" onto the MJ Fan boards.
 
mjdove said:
Congratulations to those fans and some members of the family who had done a lot to this. If I would have been Murray I would have written a "Thank you" onto the MJ Fan boards.
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What a stupid comment!
 
respect77 said:
what a stupid comment!
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NO THE TRUTH!
Stupid were these endless "discussions" from fans about the "frail constitution" and how sick and thin, only a skeleton, Michael should have been, and above all that he was a "junkie" and so and so on, I have followed all the time. I avoided the boards and or the threads in which this has been gabbed again and again. Again: Murray should send you (may be) a thank you.
 
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