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betseyby67 said:
Does anyone know when the group hug was recorded, where Mike thanked everyone and said there is no need to be afraid? I would think that would have happened on the last rehearsal night.
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The very last rehearsal was when Michael was dressed in his Ed Hardy pants.
 
If those pictures are shown in court....I am afraid that somehow they will spread. omg
Some ppl would do anything for money .
Oh, please, no. I don"t wanna see them , ever. No way. No way.
I am begining to feel glad that I am gonna be at work when the trial starts and I won"t have time at all to be all day on the line.
This is a nightmare.Will I ever wake up ?!
 
Justice_MJ said:
I don't wanna think about the autopsy pics. I find that just cruel. So cruel. I don't want to see my dearest love lying there dead, cold, and so vulnerable and I also don't want anyone else to see him like this.
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I don't know if this would help or not but technically if anyone saw the ambulance photo of Michael then they have already seen him dead. As we learned in the preliminary hearing from the testimonies of paramedics Michael was gone before they arrived. So my guess the autopsy pictures aren't going to be much worse than the ambulance picture and that's why Pastor allowed it saying that they weren't gruesome.
 
I would feel better if I see the pictures. If a family member or a friend of mine dies, i would want to see them too.
 
ivy said:
I don't know if this would help or not but technically if anyone saw the ambulance photo of Michael then they have already seen him dead. As we learned in the preliminary hearing from the testimonies of paramedics Michael was gone before they arrived. So my guess the autopsy pictures aren't going to be much worse than the ambulance picture and that's why Pastor allowed it saying that they weren't gruesome.
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I thought it was proven that the ambulance photo was a fake?
 
No it wasnt fake.that just came from the ppl who were into the conspiracy stuff.it was taken by a so called fan/pap who followed mj around for years and posted on kop board
 
ivy said:
I don't know if this would help or not but technically if anyone saw the ambulance photo of Michael then they have already seten him dead. As we learned in the preliminary hearing from the testimonies of paramedics Michael was gone before they arrived. So my guess the autopsy pictures aren't going to be much worse than the ambulance picture and that's why Pastor allowed it saying that they weren't gruesome.
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true but i guess its cause of the environment they were taken in u know in the table in that room.i shut my eyes and i can see the pics in my head.its so upsetting i dont know what else to say.this nightmare just gets worse and worse
 
elusive moonwalker said:
true but i guess its cause of the environment they were taken in u know in the table in that room.i shut my eyes and i can see the pics in my head.its so upsetting i dont know what else to say.this nightmare just gets worse and worse
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You're so right about that and I can only imagine whats to come, god.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
No it wasnt fake.that just came from the ppl who were into the conspiracy stuff.it was taken by a so called fan/pap who followed mj around for years and posted on kop board
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that sure was some classless fan ..who in there right mind would want to do that to MJ...so sad...no better than the paps.
 
Very true i guess he sees himself as more as a pap than an mj fan. He truely sold his soul to the devil with that pic
 
elusive moonwalker said:
No it wasnt fake.that just came from the ppl who were into the conspiracy stuff.it was taken by a so called fan/pap who followed mj around for years and posted on kop board
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But that picture contradicts with the statement paramedics gave.
They said they saw a hospice patient....an old frail man, and no one recognized Michael.
On that ambulance picture everybody recognized Michael.
how do you explain that ?
 
I cant even imagine THINKING about taking a picture in a moment like this. This guy is not even a human being. Despicable.
I'd be surprised if the pictures didnt end up online, you can always trust human greed and unsound mind.

This will be excruciatingly hard to live. To go through all the details of that day. The hearing was painful enough.
 
It's all about money. A picture taken in the right moment, may worth thousand of dollars.
 
zpredra5 said:
But that picture contradicts with the statement paramedics gave.
They said they saw a hospice patient....an old frail man, and no one recognized Michael.
On that ambulance picture everybody recognized Michael.
how do you explain that ?
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re read their testimony.it was taken out of context.when they first got there they saw a i.v pole and other things the needles etc and a dr was already in the room and they didnt know mj lived there so from looking at all of that and the fact mj had already been gone upto an hour.its not surprising they thought the person was someone who was very ill.that was their first impression as it would be anyones arriving and seeing an i.v and a dr there. Did mj look like a hospice paitent 12hrs earlier when he was singing thriller and earthsong

Fans recognise mj in any situation.
 
^^^
Still....something is wrong here.
It was said that the man was bold. So...I guess somebody remembered to put a wig on him. ...
If that was the real picture..the patient would be coverd with a sheet..if he is dead. He would not have a oxygen mask...that is for sure.
I have seen how ambulance is taking dead ppl away many times.
Anyway....this will be hell.
 
Much was talked about the ambulance picture. And many, even those that do not believe in any conspiracy believe that the picture is fake.
 
zpredra5 said:
^^^
Still....something is wrong here.
It was said that the man was bold. So...I guess somebody remembered to put a wig on him. ...
If that was the real picture..the patient would be coverd with a sheet..if he is dead. He would not have a oxygen mask...that is for sure.
I have seen how ambulance is taking dead ppl away many times.
Anyway....this will be hell.
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A dead person is covered with a sheet. Since Michael had not been pronounced yet he was not covered. And Michael was not bald
 
zpredra5 said:
^^^
Still....something is wrong here.
It was said that the man was bold. So...I guess somebody remembered to put a wig on him. ...
If that was the real picture..the patient would be coverd with a sheet..if he is dead. He would not have a oxygen mask...that is for sure.
I have seen how ambulance is taking dead ppl away many times.
Anyway....this will be hell.
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Don't know if the ambulance picture is real or not. But I was told that "misinformation has been purposely circulated in order to assess murray's behavior under different pressure scenarios." The bedroom photo of michael that was released, that pic is 1000% fake.

I don't wanna think about the autopsy pics. I find that just cruel. So cruel. I don't want to see my dearest love lying there dead, cold, and so vulnerable and I also don't want anyone else to see him like this. Michael was such a proud human being, so proud, he would have never wanted this.
Shitt, what they did to him brings tears to my eyes. This pics shouldn't exist.
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"This is a homicide and we can't pretend it's not a homicide," Walgren said.
 
A dead person is covered with a sheet. Since Michael had not been pronounced yet he was not covered. And Michael was not bald
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exactly even the paramedics said tabloids were taking photos and that was MJ , as elusive said we can recoginze him in any situation and that was Michael Jackson.
 
Soundmind said:
exactly even the paramedics said tabloids were taking photos and that was MJ , as elusive said we can recoginze him in any situation and that was Michael Jackson.
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Still we don't know if they were successful with taking a pic.
I thought it was made with photoshop, using a pic from the Madison Square concerts. It's the same face on both pics.
 
ExoticPrincess said:
Never in a million years did I ever think this would've been how MJ's life would end and almost two years later, sometimes I just have to fight back the tears 'cause just to think about the whole thing is just heart breaking.

NONE OF THIS SHOULD'VE EVER HAPPENED DAMN IT!!!!
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this.
 
Justice_MJ said:
I thought it was made with photoshop, using a pic from the Madison Square concerts. It's the same face on both pics.
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Actually, exactly after I saw some manips with both pics, I was convinced that the ambulance picture is real. The angle was very close, but slightly different. And yes, this is the same face because this is the same person.
 
elusive moonwalker said:
re read their testimony.it was taken out of context.when they first got there they saw a i.v pole and other things the needles etc and a dr was already in the room and they didnt know mj lived there so from looking at all of that and the fact mj had already been gone upto an hour.its not surprising they thought the person was someone who was very ill.that was their first impression as it would be anyones arriving and seeing an i.v and a dr there. Did mj look like a hospice paitent 12hrs earlier when he was singing thriller and earthsong

Fans recognise mj in any situation.
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oh yes that picture is definitely Michael...no doubt in my mind,,
 
Justthefacts said:
A dead person is covered with a sheet. Since Michael had not been pronounced yet he was not covered. And Michael was not bald
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Thank you ppl need to stop reading tabloids.mj was not bald and follow the facts of the case.we know murray would not declare it and they kept trying hence why he was taken to the hospital on murrays orders.
 
I have read a paramedic report that a man was partialy bold, frail and looked like a hospice patient.
I am not reading tabloids, I never bought one in my life, I don"t read them online. I read a lot of stuff on MJ sites.
It was also said that a patient was naked. Later...he was in a pijama with a surgical hat on his head.
I mean, really....there are so many lies.
It seems like nobody in the worls knows the truth.
 
zpredra5 said:
I have read a paramedic report that a man was partialy bold, frail and looked like a hospice patient.
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Could you please give a quote? I remember that the question of Michael's hair came out during the autopsy report that not a paramedic report. Michael was wearing extensions which do not come off at night, so the paramedics could not describe him as "partially bold". As far as I can remember, this fact came out only during the autopsy. If you read otherwise, could you quote it?
 
and he was wearing a hair net.the a.r mentions thining hair at the sides
 
kasume said:
Don't know if the ambulance picture is real or not. But I was told that "misinformation has been purposely circulated in order to assess murray's behavior under different pressure scenarios." The bedroom photo of michael that was released, that pic is 1000% fake.
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Where did you hear this? Actually, it would make some sense out of all these 'theories' that we've been seeing. Michael did it to himself on accident, on purpose; Michael drank it, he injected it; it was a mystery intruder; it was demerol addiction; it was his 'other' doctors who are at fault... We haven't heard about aliens yet but I'm waiting.
What we haven't heard is murray saying: I screwed up, I did this, I didn't mean to, I was careless, I am so sorry. We haven't heard him attempt to take any sort of responsibility. It's as if he never ordered the propofol and benzos, as if he never chastised KO for sending Michael home and saying he, murray, was in charge of Michael's health so all others butt out. He acts as if there is absolutely nothing he did to cause Michael's death.
I still think he needs a psychiatric exam. He cannot be normal.
 
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