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Re: August 29th hearing

Wow, I can't believe LMP told all that nonsense to the police. SMDH
 
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The other doctor who will be testifying is Dr. Allen Meztger I've just read on another forum.
 
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Soundmind said:
"she said in May or June ,2002 Ms.Rawamba recieved a call from Michael Jackson's children stating out that Mr.Michael Jackson had passed out on the floor and they could not revive him . She instructed them to call 911"
how old were they ? 4, 3 and 4 months ? :ermm: they were calling people on the phone at that young age ?!!! "they failed to revive him" really how come ?!!!!:smilerolleyes:

she told them to call 911 ? obvioulsy they did not because no one ever heard of 911 being called to MJ's house to revive him before June 25
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5, 4, and 1 and why didn't she call 911? And why would they call her why didn't they tell a bodyguard?
 
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If that 911 call happened it would have been all over the news. It's impossible to keep smth like that quiet about the most famous person on the planet.
 
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Grace claims or at least the defence claims that she told the police she was fired in April 2009 by Tohme after she complained about MJ's drug use . OK, first of all she was fired at the end of 2008 , she was no where near MJ in 2009 . Second before that time during 2008 no one ever talked about MJ suffering from any drug problem , the so called problem started in June , right?!
 
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From FB 12 mins ago
Arrest Conrad Murray Campaign"
A large point of our defense has been gutted," Murray's lawyer Edward Chernoff said, "but if we have to go to a tank battle with a switchblade, that is exactly what we'll do."
 
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...."According to Lisa Marie Presley, in her statement to police, during a rehearsal in 1995 Michael Jackson collapsed on stage. It was during that time that she learned that Michael Jackson had a drug problem...."
So no one is using her quote she spoke to the cops. And screw Murry and his lawyers
 
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myosotis said:
From FB 12 mins ago
Arrest Conrad Murray Campaign"
A large point of our defense has been gutted," Murray's lawyer Edward Chernoff said, "but if we have to go to a tank battle with a switchblade, that is exactly what we'll do."
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Yeah like you have a choice
 
smoothlugar said:
The other doctor who will be testifying is Dr. Allen Meztger I've just read on another forum.
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Thanks.well i guess thats cause of his convo with mj in april when he prescribed sleeping pills to him. Seems presley thinks and believes any old shit about mj.never provides any evidence.no wonder sneddon went sniffing around her.Grace is full of shit.gotta love her hollier than thou attitude. Whats that about bearing false witness. Will she swear on the bible? lol no wonder she wont talk to the defence
 
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myosotis said:
Murray could always change his mind and plead guilty......But No, I know hell is going to freeze over first.
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I'm not really familiar with the legal system much, but could he do that now at this point?
 
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if he pleas guilty he will certainly lose his licence to practice plus he won't be able to profit from book deals and interviews on MJ's death . So he will fight and try his luck , he has nothing to lose .
 
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After glancing through the motion submitted by the defense attorney, I want to know whether the motion is based on FACTS. Did they obtain the information from official police record or heresay? It seems most testimonials are regrugitated from tabloids printed shortly after Michael's passing.

If Grace said those things to the police, she portrayed Michael very negatively. And, if she lied, why? What did she have to gain to lie to the poice? I understand she had every incentive to lie to the press, but to the police? Why?
 
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A lot of people were trying to make it look like they did there best to save Michael. Grace and Lisa talk about Michael has being a long term drug user. Michael's body was too healthy for that. Drug abuse destroys your heath and state of mine there is no way Michael could have been taken drugs for as long as these people said he was and his body stayed so healthy no
 
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Yeah i do wonder what they actually said cause its like word for word from articles etc. I wouldnt put it past the defence to claim tabloid quotes as quotes from police interviews.but thst would be eady to prove one eay or the other. although to me that isnt the issue.its that these ppl threw mj
under a bus without a thought
 
Justthefacts said:
A lot of people were trying to make it look like they did there best to save Michael. Grace and Lisa talk about Michael has being a long term drug user. Michael's body was too healthy for that. Drug abuse destroys your heath and state of mine there is no way Michael could have been taken drugs for as long as these people said he was and his body stayed so healthy no
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very true. And its always the same with these sort of ppl.they make unsinuations but u ask if they saw anything directly ...look at how presley makes insinuations about metzger and ratner cause they were on the dangerous tour with him. What did that have to do with 95.she obvioudky had no faith in mj when that happened in dec yet she hadnt seen him for weeks before.she seems to crave attention just like with sneddon
 
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as for Susan Etok , in the motion filed by the prosecutors , they say she was interviewed by the detectives then they say "according to the statement she provided to the defence Jackson asked her for propofol ......My understanding she did not tell the detectives about those drug incidents mentioned in her statement to the defence .
 
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Yeah nothing to do with debbie being pregnant at the end of 95 before she miscarried.lol
 
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Justthefacts said:
A lot of people were trying to make it look like they did there best to save Michael. Grace and Lisa talk about Michael has being a long term drug user. Michael's body was too healthy for that. Drug abuse destroys your heath and state of mine there is no way Michael could have been taken drugs for as long as these people said he was and his body stayed so healthy no
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I agree. His body didn't show symptoms of long time drug abuse. His liver was healthy.
 
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And just what exactly does any of this have to do with the events of 25 June. Even if all of this garbage were true, so what? Did Michael wind up dead as a result of any of this? NO. Did Murray tell the insurance company, on 25 June, that Michael was healthy? YES. Did he abandon his anesthetized patient to make personal phone calls? YES. Has the defense struggled to come up with, well, a defense? Yes. Have they tried to put the victim on trial? YES. Will they fail and will murray be convicted? HELL YES!
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
Yeah i do wonder what they actually said cause its like word for word from articles etc. I wouldnt put it past the defence to claim tabloid quotes as quotes from police interviews.but thst would be eady to prove one eay or the other. although to me that isnt the issue.its that these ppl threw mj
under a bus without a thought
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This is exactly what I'm thinking. Is the defense so oblivious that they simply took the pages from tabloids? How true the defense' motion really is? If the events mentioned in the defense motion are taken directly from official police record, then I really want to know what Grace and others have to gain from lieing to the police? To make themselves look like Michael's saviours? To seek attention? It makes sense if they lie to the media, but to the poice?

If the motion is from valid source, then I found it disturbing that so many people would lie without any hesitation. I'm aware of Michael's prescription drug dependency and health issues. I acknowledge he had problems. But, based on the autopsy, he worked out his dependency issue. Why people like Grace would make such horrific clamis to the police?
 
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Justthefacts said:
5, 4, and 1 and why didn't she call 911? And why would they call her why didn't they tell a bodyguard?
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Blanket wasn't a year old in 2002. He was born in 2002 not 2001.
And I HIGHLY doubt that Prince, and Paris at 4 and 5 years old called Grace to report an emergancy because they weren't able 'revive' their dad. Yeah right my ass.
 
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I can't believe this what does Lisa Marie have to do with Michael Jackson ?! The guy is dead, for f*s sake, why cant she just live in london care for them twins, do her Lockwood and call it a day?! FFS I don't get it
And Grace, I knew from the beginning that this woman was up to no good, but of course if we stated this we'd be called racist by some ''fans''.
And Susan Etok?! Are u foreal?~ She is another lunatic jumping on the bandwagon after Michael's death. Why oh why?! What did Michael do to attract such deranged women?!
 
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twinklEE said:
Blanket wasn't a year old in 2002. He was born in 2002 not 2001.
And I HIGHLY doubt that Prince, and Paris at 4 and 5 years old called Grace to report an emergancy because they weren't able 'revive' their dad. Yeah right my ass.
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Oh yeah I keep forgetting he was born in 02 thanks.
 
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Justthefacts said:
Reading the motion filed by Murray's lawyers and you find out some interesting things. Those of you who thought that LMP was sincere during her interview with Oprah how about maybe she was feeling guilty. Why? Because she told the cops that when Michael collapsed in 95 that Dr Neil Ranter and another doctor were the reason he collapsed never mind the fact we know Michael was suffering from the flu and dehydration along with a fluid imbalance in his liver and kidneys. You would not believe the things people like Karen Faye and Grace told the cops. It is little wonder why they have not been interviewed by Murray's team
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These things make me angry all over again. Why do people like LMP, Karen, and Grace give their thoughts and impressions as facts. The only good thing is that being opinions they are of no help to the defense, but the bad thing is that people who hear them will believe them because they will feel they were close to Michael. I cannot see how their statements will be admissible being all opinions, unless they are asked to tell what they saw. They cannot make any conclusions about what they saw in court since they are not expert witnesses.

It seems when women could not get what they wanted from Michael, they turned very bitter and vindictive.
 
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