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Michael - The Great Album Debate

As a fan, I can instantly recognise that the Break of Dawn snippets Pentum posted are not Michael.
 
@Pentum, none of the Cascio snippets is in as such a bad quality as your Break of Dawn snippet. All I can say is that the voice respects the timing, but there is too much parasite noise over the voice.
 
barok232 said:
I want to answer this. And I want to say that I am not going to play it smart by thinking, Pentum is probably testing us with a fake. I will pretend as if this was an internet leak and there is no reason to be suspicious. That said...

First comment: sound quality is bad, like it is 22khz or something (as if from telephone, or poor cassette recorder). On first hearing I hear Michael and no part makes me feel uncomfortable or suspicious, on the contrary it is very enjoyable despite the out-of-tune parts for the few first seconds

Analysis: first 3 seconds really tell me nothing except that the voice sounds like MJ's (not enough on its own to tell, of course). Now would he do that? I don't know, he could have, considering he could be hearing the music from earphones or somethin'. "HOLD" breathing-wise has a "Michael" feel to it, just like "FEEL (the touch)", and "OF (your body)" have. Pronounciation is identical to Michael's all along, and words like "touch" or "much" add to that, it is "muCH" like Michael would have said. 0:13 is a time when Michael would go falsetto IMO, much more sense to do that especially if this is a demo. 0:16 "I" is also a good point, it sounds like "Hi" ergo MJ style. Also the "remember" just after "I", is very interesting and I like it, something that I could easily expect from Michael. Then again musical phrasing keeps going nice, the person who sings enjoys the words the melody asks to stand on. "LISTEN", "LOVE". 0:24 till the end is a part from this clip that I believe is impossible for someone to immitate. Breathing is amazing here and generally overall in this clip.

My results: 1) This is DEFINATELY NOT Malachi :p. 2) I hear Michael in this clip and like I said at the beginning of the post I judge just by my ears and take nothing else into consideration. 3) If this isn't Michael A) this is way more convincing than the guy who fooled us with "Place with no name", and he had flaws there (his low voice and talking voice sounded alot like Michael's, but he failed when reaching the high notes of the chorus) and B) please whoever this guy is, give me his phone, I want him to come and sing for me personally 24/7 :p
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this is clearly not MJ, do you not hear the heavy accent of this person's voice?
 
oooh, fun, i want to play! i think the "go" and the "more" sound like mj . . . that could be him. the rest i don't think is him. esp the first 17 seconds.
 
barok232 said:
way more convincing than the guy who fooled us with "Place with no name", and he had flaws there (his low voice and talking voice sounded alot like Michael's
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I believe the talking is a valid MJ sample. I 'm not 100% sure right now as I have no access at the moment, but pretty much.
This strongly helps some to get fooled. Like at the Cascio mess.
 
Grent said:
I believe the talking is a valid MJ sample. I 'm not 100% sure right now as I have no access at the moment, but pretty much.
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The talkign part in the APWNN thing is not MJ, it's the same guy.

barok232 said:
I will start having nightmares with all those damn immitators!!!:mat: It's creepy, isn't it?
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I don't think Marcus sound like Michael.

I don't want to say if it's Michael or not yet on the Break Of Dawn snippet yet, so here is another snippet from the same clip - Heaven Can Wait.

http://soundcloud.com/pentum/heaven-can-wait

Opinion again, guys :D I just think it's interesting.
 
Still Dominic.. or a guy who has the same age.. Anyway still so far from Michael's voice.

And don't say "a place with no name" demo fooled US. It actually fooled SOME fans... but the speaking like the singing is NOT Michael.

Pentum said:
I don't want to say if it's Michael or not yet on the Break Of Dawn snippet yet
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no need to say ;)
 
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That moment when he sings "This love I have for you girl it's incredible" and then that "ohh". That's the most convincing part for me that this is not Michael Jackson, except for also some unconvincing 'ss' es. It's such a typical treat you often see with younger singers, like Jason Malachi. If we had a video from this singer, he also probably would make the typical moves with the hands you also see often. Like they have to point out the difference in notes with their hands or something...:D.

Enjoying your game Pentum?...:D
 
Yes!! :D I think it's interesting, and I can understand why some people think it's MJ and some people think it's not. Unlike the Cascio songs...
 
Pentum said:
Yes!! :D I think it's interesting, and I can understand why some people think it's MJ and some people think it's not. Unlike the Cascio songs...
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The talking "Stay... Heaven can wait" sounds like it's said with some European accent.
 
Pentum said:
Yes!! :D I think it's interesting, and I can understand why some people think it's MJ and some people think it's not. Unlike the Cascio songs...
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This is actually the most interesting thing that may have happened in this thread so far, because it shows how subjective one's opinion of the identity of a singer is. When Pentum reveals whether it's MJ or not, a good portion of the people here will have to admit their ears fooled them. Which is what may have also happened with the Cascio songs.
 
^^ uh, ya, except the cascio songs are a lot more obviously not michael. and there's 12 of them, rather than one less-than-30-second snippet. and the circumstances surrounding them . . .
 
Yeah... it's kind of funny how the terrible "telephone" quality Break of Dawn snippet sounds more like Michael than really any of the Cascio songs which all sound blatantly Malachi'd.
 
Aniram said:
The talking "Stay... Heaven can wait" sounds like it's said with some European accent.
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I thought accent and pronounciation didn't matter? If it did matter, the Cascio songs question would be closed, because no on can't deny the Cascio singer has a different accent and different ways of pronounce certain words compared to Michael.
 
Well it's because Jason Malachi has an American accent and so does Michael, so it's not going to be quite as noticeable as a European Swedish sounding vocal?
 
I've sent my music teacher a 4 minute sample of Michael's voice from 1999-2009, having an example of his different range of voices throughout those years. I put in the Cascio tracks and a couple of Malachi tunes for good measure and see if someone with a musically trained ear has an opinion on the matter.
 
Aniram said:
Well it's because Jason Malachi has an American accent and so does Michael, so it's not going to be quite as noticeable as a European Swedish sounding vocal?
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You can still tell Jason and Michael's accent are completly different.

And European Swedish? ^^
 
Pentum said:
The talkign part in the APWNN thing is not MJ, it's the same guy.
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Wow, not bad. I'm yet to listen to it again, but unlike the obviously fake singing it seems I initially got fooled by the talking.

mjmax said:
And don't say "a place with no name" demo fooled US. It actually fooled SOME fans... but the speaking like the singing is NOT Michael.
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I don't know if you're referring to me, but this is exactly what I said. "some"
 
I know you can tell they are different. That wasn't my point, though, my point was a Boston American is going to be able to sound like a Texan American a lot easier than a North Korean doing a Boston accent, you see my point?

I could hear the sound of that European accent in the second clip. I don't know my European accents well so I'm sorry I just know it's that area of the world.

By the way, I was just pointing it out. Just like pointing out how Jason pronounces his words wrong, in that clip of Heaven Can Wait it's waaaaay off.
 
I think it's a high quality version of the acapella pitched down slightly.
 
Aniram said:
I know you can tell they are different. That wasn't my point, though, my point was a Boston American is going to be able to sound like a Texan American a lot easier than a North Korean doing a Boston accent, you see my point?

I could hear the sound of that European accent in the second clip. I don't know my European accents well so I'm sorry I just know it's that area of the world.

By the way, I was just pointing it out. Just like pointing out how Jason pronounces his words wrong, in that clip of Heaven Can Wait it's waaaaay off.
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Haha, sure. You do have a point ;)

Here is a new clip, guys...

http://soundcloud.com/pentum/thriller
 
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