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Michael - The Great Album Debate

dam2040 said:
Either way you can blatantly tell that it's MJ. It's so obvious with all the whining and goatness.
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I love the new vibrato Mike devolped, it turned his fine wine voice stale. and we all just love it? oh and not to mention how awesome it is that he recorded 12 songs....that we never heard about before 2009...though they did exist.
 
StellaJackson said:
There is no evidence at all to prove that Michael ever even knew about these songs, with the possible exception of Soldier Boy, let alone recorded them. There is a wealth of evidence to prove that Jason Cupeta recorded them, obviously starting with the songs themselves. How does Korgnex know for a fact that the leaked tracks are not demos and are actually early mixes? The fans that have speculated they are demos are wrong but Korgnex is right? Based on what exactly? He is just speculating. And if by legal evidence you mean the copyright registrations, then, with respect, you have a lot to learn.
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Well basically now you are telling me that Korgnex might be wrong.I can tell you that also the fans who told you that they were "rough demos" could be wrong also.

Let's take an in depth look.The so called Monster demo had a slower tempo, but it still had the copy pasted adlibs.This could mean two things.

1.The producers put they're touches on the songs.No, I'm not referring only to Teddy Riley.Most people said "THERE ARE COPY PASTED WORDS ONLY IN TEDDY'S SONGS!".No they're not.Check Keep Your Head Up, Soldier Boy and also Black Widow.

Some of you even said that there could be half of a word copy pasted and half not ("feeling like your love is DANGerous" - Water [I think Bumper said this months ago]).

2.The Estate already worked on the songs.Before they got to the producers, they were in The Estate's hands.

Secondly the hearing thing is really subjective.Everybody was like "The "hee-hee-hee" in Breaking News is so fake!The rough voice isn't Michael!"

In the end geso (user of Max-Jax) demonstrated that the "hee-hee-hee" was copy pasted from In The Closet, apparently down-pitched and WITH weird vibrato.As for the last parts of Breaking News, they always sounded like Michael to me.
 
Ive seen the Jason vibratos video 3 times allready.lmao...

[Producer] "Okay Jason, lay down some new beats"
[Jason Malachi] "Gurrrrrlllll i'll be wai'in for you'u'u'u, and ill alwayyyysss be here sta'kin you from a distanceeegoatgoatgoat"
[Producer] "Jason, i got some better songs here, but youll have to sound better"
****Jason looks at the lyrics and starts whining:
"You can look at dem clim'in off da walllgoatgoat...."
 
dam2040 said:
Either way you can blatantly tell that it's MJ. It's so obvious with all the whining and goatness.
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Billyjeanplxiv said:
Ive seen the Jason vibratos video 3 times allready.lmao...

[Producer] "Okay Jason, lay down some new beats"
[Jason Malachi] "Gurrrrrlllll i'll be wai'in for you'u'u'u, and ill alwayyyysss be here sta'kin you from a distanceeegoatgoatgoat"
[Producer] "Jason, i got some better songs here, but youll have to sound better"
****Jason looks at the lyrics and starts whining:
"You can look at dem clim'in off da walllgoatgoat...."
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:lmao: :rofl:
 
Dorian said:
Well basically now you are telling me that Korgnex might be wrong.I can tell you that also the fans who told you that they were "rough demos" could be wrong also.
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Compared to the album versions, those songs are rough sounding, they are demos, and they are early mixes.
 
Aniram said:
Um this doesn't sound like Jason really... lol sounds like you doing a Jason Malachi cover!!!!! Am I right??!

Or Jason's voice is really pitched lower than usual...
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Sounds 100% like Jason to me. It's just his natural voice without trying to sound like Michael. Here he is singing with his gut.
 
Aniram said:
Compared to the album versions, those songs are rough sounding, they are demos, and they are early mixes.
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Yes, early mixes.Not the "rough-early-untouched-unedited" demos as many of us spread the info...
 
Jason normal vocie..hurts my hears. I like when hes trying to be michael.....and he should stick with the goat thing. it sounds better.
 
lucilla said:
lmao deaf
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Pentum said:
Sounds 100% like Jason to me. It's just his natural voice without trying to sound like Michael. Here he is singing with his gut.
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Yeah it sounds exactly like Jason to me too like all the characteristics and definitely moments where it's obvious but it overall sounds lower than I'm used to always hearing him. Probably because he's singing from his gut like you say. It's interesting to hear him sing like that.
 
Aniram said:
Yeah it sounds exactly like Jason to me too like all the characteristics and definitely moments where it's obvious but it overall sounds lower than I'm used to always hearing him. Probably because he's singing from his gut like you say. It's interesting to hear him sing like that.
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He is almost singing like that in "Where has freedom gone", only a little better...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1tYrOB97zM
 
Dorian said:
Yes, early mixes.Not the "rough-early-untouched-unedited" demos as many of us spread the info...
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So, if they are not demos but already early mixes with loads of melodyne and other processing ... how come the singer hits some really wrong notes in Fall in Love ? They would have been evened out in one second. I mean, you could never be mixing a song like that ... the first thing you would do is straighten out the vocals to avoid immediate deafness.

And if you say, well Monster is an early mix, Fall in Love however a demo ... well ... why do the voices sound the same then? The Riley-processed whiny goatness vs. the rather untouched Fall in Love? And there is goatness in Fall in Love without straight notes ... remember - the straightening supposedly brings the goatness.

(please correct me if I'm wrong regarding the goatness in Fall in Love as I have no access to it right now)
 
Grent said:
So, if they are not demos but already early mixes with loads of melodyne and other processing ... how come the singer hits some really wrong notes in Fall in Love ? They would have been evened out in one second. I mean, you could never be mixing a song like that ... the first thing you would do is straighten out the vocals to avoid immediate deafness.

And if you say, well Monster is an early mix, Fall in Love however a demo ... well ... why do the voices sound the same then? The Riley-processed whiny goatness vs. the rather untouched Fall in Love? And there is goatness in Fall in Love without straight notes ... remember - the straightening supposedly brings the goatness.

(please correct me if I'm wrong regarding the goatness in Fall in Love as I have no access to it right now)
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Well maybe The Estate/Eddie worked on the vocals to sound like that?Maybe Fall In Love couldn't be fixed?Maybe it was an early mix with no copy pasted vocals?We don't have these details, so we can't really talk about them like we know for sure.This is what I was trying to make most of the users understand...:).

I am neutral in this whole situation.The songs don't sound like Michael in parts, but I really can't prove it's not him and I can't exclude the alternative that he's singing on them based on supositions only.
 
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