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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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Well I think it'd be quite harsh to leave like that. :( Make friends and then just leave them with a "Goodbye". That'd be kind of rude!
 
I hope it wasn't because I mentioned that Samhabib quote and he started getting ideas to leave us. :(
 
Aniram said:
I hope it wasn't because I mentioned that Samhabib quote and he started getting ideas to leave us. :(
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Has nothing to do with samhabib quote. Yeah. He needs time away from this forum. I kinda understand how he feels. He'll be back. I hope. We are such a special bunch. Lol.
 
love is magical said:
Has nothing to do with samhabib quote. Yeah. He needs time away from this forum. I kinda understand how he feels. He'll be back. I hope. We are such a special bunch. Lol.
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He's turning his back on the debate. :( He has lost hope... We lost a great soldier.
 
azsummergirl said:
i think bumper left because he clearly has decided that michael is singing on all 12 tracks.




. . . am i right?! ;)
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It's very highly likely that you are correct. Sadly, BUMPER just isn't a Michael Jackson fan anymore, he is a Nelly fan now.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if 'nasty' thanked one of our posts? No posting him/herself, but just thanks ours :D
 
I made a post in the thread discussing Frank's book about what he says about the songs. For those who missed it, I will repost the summary here:

He totally skirts round the issue. But let's take a look at what he does say. According to Frank, Michael arrived at the house on August 19th. We know he had left by early November because he was in Beverly Hills for Jesse Jackson's 66th birthday party by the 8th. That gave Michael approximately 10 weeks to, according to Frank, write and record 12 songs as well as recording the WBSS 2008 parts. Of course, you also have to take off the time that Michael spent in New York in September when he was doing the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot, amongst other things. As if by magic, this period of time becomes 4 months according to Frank's account. Frank states that Michael, Eddie and Porte wrote 12 songs together, which, for those who've been following the detailed research into the song registrations, will know is not true. He doesn't mention the controversy, authenticity issue or any details whatsoever despite stating how he states he was was frequently there. Absolutely nothing about the alleged recording sessions is revealed, despite the wealth of detail about all other aspects of this stay.
 
That shows he's got something to hide.
And we'll be fed by excuses why he would leave out those crucial things again.
When will people finally wake up?
 
StellaJackson said:
I made a post in the thread discussing Frank's book about what he says about the songs. For those who missed it, I will repost the summary here:

He totally skirts round the issue. But let's take a look at what he does say. According to Frank, Michael arrived at the house on August 19th. We know he had left by early November because he was in Beverly Hills for Jesse Jackson's 66th birthday party by the 8th. That gave Michael approximately 10 weeks to, according to Frank, write and record 12 songs as well as recording the WBSS 2008 parts. Of course, you also have to take off the time that Michael spent in New York in September when he was doing the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot, amongst other things. As if by magic, this period of time becomes 4 months according to Frank's account. Frank states that Michael, Eddie and Porte wrote 12 songs together, which, for those who've been following the detailed research into the song registrations, will know is not true. He doesn't mention the controversy, authenticity issue or any details whatsoever despite stating how he states he was was frequently there. Absolutely nothing about the alleged recording sessions is revealed, despite the wealth of detail about all other aspects of this stay.
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I wish he'd given more details, but judging from what you say here, he certainly doesn't say anything that makes the official story more doubtful. He confirms MJ did stay at their house during that period. He says the WBSS vocals were recorded in the same time frame as the Cascio songs. When he says "MJ wrote the songs with Eddie and James Porte", obviously he doesn't mean all 12 songs were written from scratch. MJ probably contributed a bit of lyrics here and there.

By the way, I remember there was A LOT of debate over whether the "new" MJ vocals on WBSS were really newly recorded, or whether they were taken from an older demo from the 80's. This goes to show how difficult it can be to "trust one's ears" when it comes to MJ vocals.

Besides, if he did record the WBSS vocals with Eddie, it certainly makes sense that he would also record OTHER STUFF during that period, seeing as how he was there in the studio and everything. Who goes in a studio just to record 30 seconds of material?
 
kreen said:
I wish he'd given more details, but judging from what you say here, he certainly doesn't say anything that makes the official story more doubtful. He confirms MJ did stay at their house during that period. He says the WBSS vocals were recorded in the same time frame as the Cascio songs. When he says "MJ wrote the songs with Eddie and James Porte", obviously he doesn't mean all 12 songs were written from scratch. MJ probably contributed a bit of lyrics here and there.

By the way, I remember there was A LOT of debate over whether the "new" MJ vocals on WBSS were really newly recorded, or whether they were taken from an older demo from the 80's. This goes to show how difficult it can be to "trust one's ears" when it comes to MJ vocals.

Besides, if he did record the WBSS vocals with Eddie, it certainly makes sense that he would also record OTHER STUFF during that period, seeing as how he was there in the studio and everything. Who goes in a studio just to record 30 seconds of material?
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He didn't mention WBSS 08. That info is from me.

So where is that other stuff? Cos it sure as hell isn't contained in those 12 tracks.
 
Grent said:
That shows he's got something to hide.
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Nope, but that shows the pro-fake people will always imagine people have got something to hide.

So let's list all of the members of the conspiracy who, more than a year after the fact, are still, for some incomprehensible reason and contrary to everything we know about human nature, sticking to their story and not revealing the truth about the impostor :

Eddie Casio, + girlfriend and close friends
James Porte, + girlfriend and close friends
Jason Malachi, + wife and close friends
Frank Cascio
The MJ Estate (who actually included some bits from Monster in the Immortal show)
Teddy Riley
Neff-U (possibly)
The Cascio parents

Wow! This is either the greatest, most amazing hoax ever hatched by the human brain... or it really is MJ singing.
 
kreen said:
Nope, but that shows the pro-fake people will always imagine people have got something to hide.

So let's list all of the members of the conspiracy who, more than a year after the fact, are still, for some incomprehensible reason and contrary to everything we know about human nature, are sticking to their story and not revealing the truth about the impostor :

Eddie Casio, + girlfriend and close friends
James Porte, + girlfriend and close friends
Jason Malachi, + wife and close friends
Frank Cascio
The MJ Estate (who actually included some bits from Monster in the Immortal show)
Teddy Riley
Neff-U (possibly)
The Cascio parents

Wow! This is either the greatest, most amazing hoax ever hatched by the human brain... or it really is MJ singing.
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No it isn't Mj singing - the songs don't sound like him. Unless you can explain why they share the exact same pronounciation, vibrato, accent, snorts etc as Jason Malachi. For example - please enlighten us as to what software can cause such a vibrato? It sure isn't melodyne for a start.

Oh, and have any of the people involved in the Chandler/Arvizo conspiracies ever come forward? No. Incomprehensible reason? I think it's called money. The same thing that has kept the Chandlers quiet all these years.
 
kreen said:
Nope, but that shows the pro-fake people will always imagine people have got something to hide.

So let's list all of the members of the conspiracy who, more than a year after the fact, are still, for some incomprehensible reason and contrary to everything we know about human nature, sticking to their story and not revealing the truth about the impostor :

Eddie Casio, + girlfriend and close friends
James Porte, + girlfriend and close friends
Jason Malachi, + wife and close friends
Frank Cascio
The MJ Estate (who actually included some bits from Monster in the Immortal show)
Teddy Riley
Neff-U (possibly)
The Cascio parents

Wow! This is either the greatest, most amazing hoax ever hatched by the human brain... or it really is MJ singing.
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Then why don't they give us proof that it is Michael singing??? If it was really him, it would be easy to prove it, wouldn't it???
 
StellaJackson said:
I made a post in the thread discussing Frank's book about what he says about the songs. For those who missed it, I will repost the summary here:

He totally skirts round the issue. But let's take a look at what he does say. According to Frank, Michael arrived at the house on August 19th. We know he had left by early November because he was in Beverly Hills for Jesse Jackson's 66th birthday party by the 8th. That gave Michael approximately 10 weeks to, according to Frank, write and record 12 songs as well as recording the WBSS 2008 parts. Of course, you also have to take off the time that Michael spent in New York in September when he was doing the L'Uomo Vogue photoshoot, amongst other things. As if by magic, this period of time becomes 4 months according to Frank's account. Frank states that Michael, Eddie and Porte wrote 12 songs together, which, for those who've been following the detailed research into the song registrations, will know is not true. He doesn't mention the controversy, authenticity issue or any details whatsoever despite stating how he states he was was frequently there. Absolutely nothing about the alleged recording sessions is revealed, despite the wealth of detail about all other aspects of this stay.
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If Michael did write and record these songs in his home, it would be very logical if he would mention something about that experience. Surely it would be a surreal, beautiful and impressing experience/joyeous event to work together with Michael or hear Michael record songs written by him? (not sure if he really did, btw? source Roger Friedman). A dream come true for him? And absolutely nothing to be silent about in his book?

ETA: I'd imagine it would be one of the highlights of his life!!!
 
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