Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Can someone make a list of all the FACTS that we know for sure at this point? I think that would be great as there is so much heated speculation and opinion, going around it gets confusing.
 
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So that is why they were filming--to sell the footage for money. What sickos.

I don't think that footage is from Randy or Janet's camera phone, the angle is too odd. It seems to be coming from security cameras up in roof or hight up in the wall.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

There will always be disagreement amongst the fan community on various aspects of Michael's life and legacy. That is to be expected. Once we respect each other and deal with each other civilly, I have no problem with having a hearty debate!

Additionally,there is no question that certain sections of the media are playing to the agenda of the Jackson family and others to the Estate. Somewhere in the middle there is the truth. Some things have been blown out of proportion, exaggerated and invented, little details have been confused and mixed up.

BUT THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS ...

Three minor children have not heard from their guardian in EIGHT [8] days. Two of those minor children have been called liars and manipulators and they have been made to feel unsafe in their home.

That situation needs to be our primary concern. Nothing else.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

^How can Randy sell that footage to GMA when actually they're barred from going to that house now. Its not his footage, its security footage. Someone ELSE leaked that footage, either security or some other person like Trent or whatever that has access to it. Which makes me wonder what the motives are.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

There will always be disagreement amongst the fan community on various aspects of Michael's life and legacy. That is to be expected. Once we respect each other and deal with each other civilly, I have no problem with having a hearty debate!

Additionally,there is no question that certain sections of the media are playing to the agenda of the Jackson family and others to the Estate. Somewhere in the middle there is the truth. Some things have been blown out of proportion, exaggerated and invented, little details have been confused and mixed up.

BUT THE CRUX OF THE MATTER IS ...

Three minor children have not heard from their guardian in EIGHT [8] days. Two of those minor children have been called liars and manipulators and they have been made to feel unsafe in their home.

That situation needs to be our primary concern. Nothing else.

^^^Very true indeed.

Bub didn't that article say that GMA bought the video footage from Randy?
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Who is this person?

Knowing that it's the estate which is drafting the guardianship papers we can rest easy that it's not latoya - that's enough for me.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Are you quoting stuff from teamichael777's website, if we want to read that propaganda we can go over there and do it ourselves.



I don't know who that is but ok.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Another thing that is really weird to me is, who the hell are all these "Sources"??? They seem to come from differing sides, and there is no way to verify any one of these anonymous stories.
 
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Bub didn't that article say that GMA bought the video footage from Randy?
Roger posted that the footage was from Randy, but I think he is mistaken. At least the video from TMZ is from security, not sure about GMA video. The angle seemed to coming from higher up than where Randy was standing.
 
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I don't think that footage is from Randy or Janet's camera phone, the angle is too odd. It seems to be coming from security cameras up in roof or hight up in the wall.

This sounds terrible but I can't wait to see what they took footage of.........

It could tell a completely different story from what was reported.

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Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

If you want to demonize them by making hysterical assumptions based on sensationalized media reports, by all means go ahead. I mean, that's what destroyed Michael Jackson. For Christ's sake, don't let me stop you now. Who's next?

I don't want to demonize them. I just want a 14 year old who learned her grandmother had a mini stroke via the internet and then tried to talk to her grandmother personally to confirm she is really okay, a 14 year old who was suddenly orphaned 3 years ago and is obviously filled with fear because she's not allowed to speak to the one person who keeps her from being an orphan again, all I want is for this 14 year old to be able to speak to her grandmother.

No one really gives a hoot about the Jacksons being demons or saints or anything else anymore.

JUST LET THE GIRL SPEAK TO HER GRANDMOTHER! PLEASE!
 
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I don't think that footage is from Randy or Janet's camera phone, the angle is too odd. It seems to be coming from security cameras up in roof or hight up in the wall.


I think the comment was about when Randy and Janet were seen filming with their own cam/phones. :puke: I was appalled at the sight of it. They're so despicable.
 
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I don't want to demonize them. I just want a 14 year old who learned her grandmother had a mini stroke via the internet and then tried to talk to her grandmother personally to confirm she is really okay, a 14 year old who was suddenly orphaned 3 years ago and is obviously filled with fear because she's not allowed to speak to the one person who keeps her from being an orphan again, all I want is for this 14 year old to be able to speak to her grandmother.

No one really gives a hoot about the Jacksons being demons or saints or anything else anymore.

JUST LET THE GIRL SPEAK TO HER GRANDMOTHER! PLEASE!


I AGREE WITH YOU 100% at this moment in time. However I can only imagine 50 years from now people using the "orphan" excuse. Much like Michael, with the "He never had a childhood" responses. At some point we will have to let these children grow up, and I think a lot of fans cannot handle that because they will always see them as the King Of Pops children instead of as individuals.

But yes FOR NOW I do agree with you 100%. It will be interesting to see how they transition into adults.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Roger posted that the footage was from Randy, but I think he is mistaken. At least the video from TMZ is from security, not sure about GMA video. The angle seemed to coming from higher up than where Randy was standing.

Bubs are you talking about the GMA footage or the one on TMZ--unless they both are the same?
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Who is this person?

It might be Trent that is seeking guardianship? Who else would also claim that Karherine has been kidnapped?

This is such an outrage and embarassing!! All headlines saying she has been kidnapped by her own children.
 
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Bubs are you talking about the GMA footage or the one on TMZ--unless they both are the same?

Both are same with the exception that the video from TMZ is longer. You can see cars pull up to the driveway and Paris and Prince entering their cars to greet Janet and Randy
 
This is so sad but I think she has every right to want some sort of revenge.. Paris tweeted this 2hrs ago, not sure if it was posted here already
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>9 days and counting&#8230; so help me god i will make whoever did this pay</p>&mdash; Paris Jackso&#951; (@ParisJackson) <a href="https://twitter.com/ParisJackson/status/227774334805102592" data-datetime="2012-07-24T14:36:47+00:00">July 24, 2012</a></blockquote>
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Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

^^She probably is not being held against her will, so I guess she was not kidnapped. Now if they were able to nab the kids last night, that would really be kidnapping. I think Katherine just thinks she is on a vacation and have not called the kids due to something her children told her. What ever it is it must be good for her to believe them.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

7/24/2012 9:27 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Tito's Son TJ
To Seek Temp Guardianship
of MJ's Kids

exclusive
0724-tj-jackson-2.jpg

Tito Joe Jackson
, aka TJ, the 34-year-old son of Michael Jackson's brother Tito, is having his lawyer draft legal docs in a bid to become temporary guardian of MJ's 3 kids ... TMZ has learned.

People familiar with the situation tell TMZ ... Paris and Prince and Blanket all want TJ to be their guardian because they believe Katherine -- their current guardian -- has effectively been kidnapped by MJ's siblings. The kids haven't seen Katherine in 9 days.

Under California law, a judge would not grant a temporary guardian for teenagers unless the kids were on board with the selection, and we're told all 3 kids are down with it.

As we first reported ... the Michael Jackson Estate is standing by and will support TJ's bid to become the temporary guardian if asked by the Probate judge.

Just 15 hours ago, TJ tweeted to Paris, "I know it's completely unfair for them to do this to you and your brothers. We will keep trying. I love you."

By the way, TJ is married with kids and is in a band with his 2 brothers. And get this ... he was Kim Kardashian's first love. Check out what looks like their prom pic.

0724-kim-kardashian-t-jackson-1.jpg


One final point ... sources connected to MJ's siblings tell TMZ Michael's brothers and sisters are turning on each other. One brother has secretly been telling people he does not support what the others are doing to Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/tj-jackson-tito-jackson-temporary-guardianship-michael-jacksons-kids/
 
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I really wish Paris would settle down on the tweets :( The media is going crazy and this is not what Michael would want.

What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children :(
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

7/24/2012 9:27 AM PDT BY TMZ STAFF

Tito's Son TJ
To Seek Temp Guardianship
of MJ's Kids

exclusive
0724-tj-jackson-2.jpg

Tito Joe Jackson
, aka TJ, the 34-year-old son of Michael Jackson's brother Tito, is having his lawyer draft legal docs in a bid to become temporary guardian of MJ's 3 kids ... TMZ has learned.

People familiar with the situation tell TMZ ... Paris and Prince and Blanket all want TJ to be their guardian because they believe Katherine -- their current guardian -- has effectively been kidnapped by MJ's siblings. The kids haven't seen Katherine in 9 days.

Under California law, a judge would not grant a temporary guardian for teenagers unless the kids were on board with the selection, and we're told all 3 kids are down with it.

As we first reported ... the Michael Jackson Estate is standing by and will support TJ's bid to become the temporary guardian if asked by the Probate judge.

Just 15 hours ago, TJ tweeted to Paris, "I know it's completely unfair for them to do this to you and your brothers. We will keep trying. I love you."

By the way, TJ is married with kids and is in a band with his 2 brothers. And get this ... he was Kim Kardashian's first love. Check out what looks like their prom pic.

0724-kim-kardashian-t-jackson-1.jpg


One final point ... sources connected to MJ's siblings tell TMZ Michael's brothers and sisters are turning on each other. One brother has secretly been telling people he does not support what the others are doing to Katherine.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/tj-jackson-tito-jackson-temporary-guardianship-michael-jacksons-kids/

Something's fishy
 
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Anybody familiar with 3t know anything about tj? I think mjjc q and a was with taj wasn't it - taj seemed very cultish about the 'family', not completely on a par with jermaine but close.

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What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children

Only media attacking the children is x17online which is sourced by randy and co. And i'm sure you're not the only one 'pissed' with paris - so are the siblings.
 
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I really wish Paris would settle down on the tweets :( The media is going crazy and this is not what Michael would want.

What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children :(

I doubt she would. And why should she? her uncles did the same after the letter was published (comment on twitter I mean). Difference is Paris has been active on twitter way before this happened, she's a very outspoken teenager and I don't see anything wrong with that. Michael was the same. If the media is attacking the children it's because her uncles talked crap about her and Prince. That's what Michael wouldn't want, his family attacking his children out of GREED. In general people know she's a sweetheart. Whoever believes what Randy has said about 'em is just an air-head.
 
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I AGREE WITH YOU 100% at this moment in time. However I can only imagine 50 years from now people using the "orphan" excuse. Much like Michael, with the "He never had a childhood" responses. At some point we will have to let these children grow up, and I think a lot of fans cannot handle that because they will always see them as the King Of Pops children instead of as individuals.

But yes FOR NOW I do agree with you 100%. It will be interesting to see how they transition into adults.

I think they had better chances to be greatly well adjusted before all this nonsense brought about by existing adults on both sides.
 
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I really wish Paris would settle down on the tweets :( The media is going crazy and this is not what Michael would want.

What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children :(

blame the ppl that caused this not the victims. the media aka x17 randys mouth piece are attacking mjs children. why are the jacksons stopping paris from speaking to her gran. they could have stopped this. but their agenda is to important
 
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Anybody familiar with 3t know anything about tj? I think mjjc q and a was with taj wasn't it - taj seemed very cultish about the 'family', not completely on a par with jermaine but close.

TJ is supporting Paris & the kids going by his twitter account. Although I haven't done full research yet I think he's on their side even though he is Tito's son.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

I really wish Paris would settle down on the tweets :( The media is going crazy and this is not what Michael would want.

What pisses me off is this girl wore masks because their father wanted them to live private lives...and then Paris goes and airs all these family disputes and now the media is attacking the children :(

Paris is not the reason the media fire on them. It's because her uncles and aunts leak all those info to paint them as spoiled kids. What's wrong with Paris. She can't speak to her grandma. Why can't she speak to KJ. I really don't understand your logic.
 
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Is it a good idea with TJ? His dad is one of the people who signed the letter and want the executors gone. What if Tito gets to TJ and through him to the children?
I just don't trust anyone named Jackson right now (apart from PP&B)
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /PPB Atty steps in after Siblings try to take them from their ho

Anybody familiar with 3t know anything about tj? I think mjjc q and a was with taj wasn't it - taj seemed very cultish about the 'family', not completely on a par with jermaine but close.

tj and taryll have been pretty quiet interms of been like taj. they havnt said or done anything to show blind loyalty to the family so i dont think anything can be said against him?
 
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