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Conrad Murray seeks new test in Michael Jackson's death
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/07/30/justice/conrad-murray-appeal/index.html
By Alan Duke, CNN July 30, 2012 --



STORY HIGHLIGHTS
* Murray lawyers want test of propofol bottle prosecutors say contained fatal dose
* If residue has no lidocaine, it disproves prosecution theory of how Michael Jackson died, lawyers say
* The defense theory is that a desperate Jackson self-injected the drug that killed him
* Murray is serving a four-year prison sentence for last year's involuntary manslaughter conviction


Los Angeles (CNN) -- Conrad Murray wants a key piece of evidence tested which his lawyers argue could prove Michael Jackson injected himself with the drug that killed him.

Murray, who is serving a four-year prison sentence, is appealing last year's involuntary manslaughter conviction in Jackson's 2009 death.

A motion filed Monday by his lawyers asked an appeals court to order a test of the residue in a 100 milliliter bottle of propofol that prosecutors say contained the fatal dose of surgical anesthetic.

If it contains 10% lidocaine, then it would support prosecution expert Dr. Steven Shafer's theory that Murray rigged up an IV drip using the bottle and then left the room, Murray's motion said.

Shafer testified that lidocaine, which was found in Jackson's blood after his death, was mixed with propofol to ease the sting of the drug as it entered a vein in Jackson's leg.

"However, if the residue is 100% propofol, it would absolutely refute Shafer's final contention that was used to prove an IV propofol infusion," the motion said.

The defense theory was that a desperate Jackson, fearing that his comeback concerts could be canceled unless he found elusive sleep, self-administered propofol that Murray was trying to wean him off of. It contends that Jackson also swallowed eight lorazepam tablets while Murray was not watching.

Two requests by Murray's lawyers to have the bottle tested after the trial were rejected by the trial judge, who ruled they should have asked for testing before the trial.

Murray's lawyers argued the residue in the bottle, which the prosecution never tested, became relevant only at the end of the prosecution's case" when Shafer "remodeled" his theory about how Jackson died.

"Dr. Shafer made a striking change in his rebuttal testimony, which occurred during the final minutes of the evidentiary portion of the trial," Murray lawyer Valerie Wass said.

Murray told police he stopped using IV infusions of propofol to help Jackson sleep three days before his death, and that he only injected a small dose the morning he died.

"The amount of propofol Murray claims he gave Jackson does in fact comport with the amount of propofol found in Jackson's blood at autopsy." Murray lawyer J. Michael Flanagan said. "There was no propofol infusion on the morning of Jackson's death. The analysis of the residue in Exhibit 30 will prove the truth once and for all."

The motion asks the appeals court to order the Los Angeles County Coroner to either test the residue or hand it over to a private lab for testing.
 
so they are going to the appeals court after the judge refused the earlier motion. they fail to realise that murray was convicted of m.s by negligence. and as one of the jurrors said there were about 5 reasons why they convicted him. ie having no equipment leaving the room not calling 911 etc. so what they claim is irrelevent. also as shaffer said he could have injected it seperatly. mixing it in the bottle was justt one theory and nothing more

is this why the actual appeal hasnt been filed yet cause they are waiting on this ruling. any idea when we might get a ruling?
 
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Here we go again. Even if Murray's lawyers want to believe that Michael self-injected, that still does not sensibly explain why Murray chose to leave Michael alone under the influence of Propofol. And it was indeed Murray's choice to leave Michael like that. Also, the defense had two years to do all the testing they needed to do. Personally, I think they were only content to blame Michael for everything. And they invested too much in that and didn't bother to try to logically deal with the details of Michael's death, meaning they didn't want to deal with the fact that Murray left the room and did not have any equipment set up to monitor Michael. And those are just a few of the facts that they are still ignoring. It sounds to me like Murray's team have been acting from the beginning like this is a murder case when it is really a case of medical negligence. That's why they keep on saying that Michael self-injected as if that should clear Murray of his responsibility for what happened. Anyway, I think they wanted the case to be open and shut because of how people felt about Michael anyway. So they just blamed him for everything thinking that the hatred people had for Michael would get Murray off. They were obviously surprised when it didn't work. And I think now they're in a scramble to make excuses for Murray with the appellate court which is why they want to test evidence that they should have tested two years ago. They had to have known that this evidence existed way before Murray's trial. They can't act now like they were suddenly blindsided by its so-called importance to their case. They could have brought up this explanation during the trial since they were throwing theories around hoping that something they said would stick. I'm sorry. I'm not buying this. To me, the basic fact is that Michael died because there was nobody around to keep an eye on him, regardless of the self-injection theory. And I hope that there can be a prosecutor who can offer a counter-argument for this latest appeal stunt by Murray.
 
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Exactly. dont the defence remember the judges instructions that even if the jury believe mj self injected (which according to the jurror none did) they could still convict.

do the pros get to file a reply motion for appeals judges to read?
 
Um...isn't it too late for that? At this point, it seems Conrat is doing things only for attention. Fame whore. I can't believe reputed news sources are quick to jump in the bandwagon and give him a platform to seek attention.

Conrat needs to go sit his ass down in a corner of his prison cell.
 
and lets not forget, if i remember correctly no fingerprint of Michael Jacksons was found on the bottle. so even IF this was a relevant issue how are they going to explain that? Magic fingers?
 
Can Murray give a good reason for leaving Michael alone after giving him so much drugs so he probably wouldn´t know what he was doing if he woke up?
And Murray said he gave Michael so little propofol so Michael should have woke up after a few minutes if everything was as it should
What´s the excuse to leave a man Murray said was addicted to propofol alone with lots of it?
Anyway it wasn´t possible for Michael to self-inject,they proved that at the trial.
 
:doh: Give it up. Anyway, it doesn't matter because the reason Murray's in jail is because of negligence pure and simple. Even if MJ had impossibly injected himself somehow, Murray still wasn't monitoring him nor did he call 911 right away.
 
:doh: Give it up. Anyway, it doesn't matter because the reason Murray's in jail is because of negligence pure and simple. Even if MJ had impossibly injected himself somehow, Murray still wasn't monitoring him nor did he call 911 right away.

I think what they're trying to argue is that there is no way Murray could have helped it if Michael chose to self-administer a lethal dose of a given substance. However, in regards to propofol, it was already proven that one cannot self-administer propofol, either orally or intravenously. That is why Flanagan tried so hard to pursue the lorazepam, but at the end of the day the cause of death was acute propofol intoxication, not lorazepam.

Of course, Murray's gross negligence and failure to act properly during a medical emergency helped only to strengthen the prosecution's case in presenting him as the greedy and negligent ex-doctor he is.
 
What????? :wtf: OMG! :lmao:
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I think what they're trying to argue is that there is no way Murray could have helped it if Michael chose to self-administer a lethal dose of a given substance.

what like having monitoring equipment and not leaving the room and calling 911 straight away.....! which ever way the defence try and spin it it doesnt work for them. just like the jurror said there were numerous violations which made them convict. all would still stand even if mj self injected
 
what like having monitoring equipment and not leaving the room and calling 911 straight away.....! which ever way the defence try and spin it it doesnt work for them. just like the jurror said there were numerous violations which made them convict. all would still stand even if mj self injected

Yes, of course I agree with the prosecution in that Murray exhibited gross negligence/disregard. I was just trying to shape out the defence's argument, which as we have pointed out is full of holes big enough to drive an ice cream truck through.

With that said, I don't know why Flanagan would want to continue being involved in this mess. I guess the rationale is tying up loose ends from the Chernoff-led case before handing the whole thing over to Wass, and since Chernoff is not local, he was the only one who could really do that. -le shrug-

Anyway, I predict the appeal will be rejected. And if, for whatever reason, it is not... it'll be twice the humiliation for Murray.
 
even IF this was a relevant issue how are they going to explain that? Magic fingers?

Spirit fingers anyone........
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Maybe Michael was wearing his one glove, administered the prof, then took off the glove (even though everyone else goes immediately to sleep), and put the glove in a drawer, then went back to bed and fell asleep. After all it is Michael Jackson.

I do not know if this is a plan but both Muarry and the Jacksons are going after things that they should have cleared up in 09. Talk about alike minds thinking as one....
 
Maybe Michael was wearing his one glove, administered the prof, then took off the glove (even though everyone else goes immediately to sleep), and put the glove in a drawer, then went back to bed and fell asleep. After all it is Michael Jackson.

If that is true that anyone has gotten profpol adminsterated goes to sleep immediately then what would be impossible for michael to do
 
Just wait, he and his lawyers are going to come up with something on MJ's birthday and/or BAD 25 release date. Every time there is big news about Michael, they come up with more garbage. I'll never forget the sight of this murderer's photo op outside of Forest Lawn:angry:
 
He is extremely fame-hungry... Every possible chance he gets, he's always begging for attention :no:
 
and the sad part is MJ's family was calling this fool the 'fall guy' and Katherine refused restitution from him so his crazy behind will be spewing garbage for years. I would've taken every dime he would've ever made in his lifetime for killing my son. Why didn't Katherine?
 
I guess if you know you cannot win an appeal, and you are stuck in jail, you try to create as much mess, pain, and trouble as possible.
 
If that is true that anyone has gotten profpol adminsterated goes to sleep immediately then what would be impossible for michael to do

The impossiblity of various scenarios haven't presented a hurdle for murray's defence up til now, so don't expect to see a change in their 'strategy'.
 
Nathy MJ;3689818 said:
Court Denies Request by Michael Jackson's Doctor To Test Drug Vial

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/08/conrad-murray-michael-jackson-propofol-vial.html

*Please, someone post the entire article here. I can't read because it says I reached my limit of free articles...
Court denies request by Michael Jackson’s doctor to test drug vial
August 13, 2012 | 1:47 pm


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An appellate court denied a request Monday that it order forensic testing on a piece of evidence that Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers claimed might cast doubt on his guilt in Michael Jackson's death.

The 2nd District Court of Appeal issued the decision without comment. Attorneys for Murray, who is serving a two-year manslaughter sentence, had asked for lab testing on residue from a propofol vial found in the pop star's room.

The doctor's fingerprint was on the vial, and prosecutors theorized that it held the dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol that killed Jackson on June 25, 2009. Murray's defense, which maintained that Jackson administered the fatal dose himself, asked late in the trial for testing, but was rebuffed by the trial judge who said the request was not timely.

An attorney for Murray, Valerie Wass, said she planned to petition the state Supreme Court to order testing on the drug bottle.
 
ivy;3689842 said:
Court denies request by Michael Jackson’s doctor to test drug vial
August 13, 2012 | 1:47 pm


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An appellate court denied a request Monday that it order forensic testing on a piece of evidence that Dr. Conrad Murray's lawyers claimed might cast doubt on his guilt in Michael Jackson's death.

The 2nd District Court of Appeal issued the decision without comment. Attorneys for Murray, who is serving a two-year manslaughter sentence, had asked for lab testing on residue from a propofol vial found in the pop star's room.

The doctor's fingerprint was on the vial, and prosecutors theorized that it held the dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol that killed Jackson on June 25, 2009. Murray's defense, which maintained that Jackson administered the fatal dose himself, asked late in the trial for testing, but was rebuffed by the trial judge who said the request was not timely.

An attorney for Murray, Valerie Wass, said she planned to petition the state Supreme Court to order testing on the drug bottle.


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Well done!!!! :pth:
 
The 2nd District Court of Appeal issued the decision without comment.

The doctor's fingerprint was on the vial, and prosecutors theorized that it held the dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol that killed Jackson on June 25, 2009. Murray's defense, which maintained that Jackson administered the fatal dose himself, asked late in the trial for testing, but was rebuffed by the trial judge who said the request was not timely.
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District court is fed up with them, so they don't even bother comment their stupid appeals:)
Here comes the magic fingers again. Murray's prints were on the vial, but not Michael's, and they still think Michael self-administered?
 
The 2nd District Court of Appeal issued the decision without comment.

The doctor's fingerprint was on the vial, and prosecutors theorized that it held the dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol that killed Jackson on June 25, 2009. Murray's defense, which maintained that Jackson administered the fatal dose himself, asked late in the trial for testing, but was rebuffed by the trial judge who said the request was not timely.
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District court is fed up with them, so they don't even bother comment their stupid appeals:)
Here comes the magic fingers again. Murray's prints were on the vial, but not Michael's, and they still think Michael self-administered?

That is because Michael had on his silver glove. He goes to bed with it, and opened the bottle with the golved hand. Remember, after he took the fatal shot, he removed the glove, placed it in a drawer, and went back to the bed and lie down. After all he is the King of Pop!!!
 
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