Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

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Too little too late for me. I would have been more impressed had he said 'I apologise, we got it all wrong, we scared Michael's children through no fault of their own, as an adult I should have known better'.
He then goes on to say that he still thinks there is a problem with the estate and the will etc. Just trying to save face now that it has all backfired.
 
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Damage control by a lieing coward. to late and to fake.
 
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They all made fools of themselves and caused their Mother to lose guardianship of Michael's 3-children. That step would have probably never have been taken if they didn't start this mess by signing and releasing that letter.

But we have learned that causing "their Mother to lose guardianship of Michael's 3-children" was the plan.
 
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BTW, I think Janet's reaction is interesting too. She only denied that she slapped Paris and calling Paris bitch. However, she didn't denied Paris part. Ha! How classy this is. It's just again showed Janet's personality. Her lawyer also didn't deny Prince's screen shot. I don't even know how Jermaine can still claim that they did not block Katherine's contacts when you have that screen shot as evidence. They really should go to Prince and ask him how to write a proper statement that won't contradict themselves.

Jermaine is not jumping from the sinking ship. I guess Randy would be really pissed...... Is Randy going to blame that John Branca also brain washed Jermaine? Their damage control is useless. They should not let things go this far at beginning. It's really stupid to fool kids and think they won't question anything.
 
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I've got a feeling jerm's child support was paid by the estate, one of those loans that mrs j got last year that show up in the estate accounting looks like it cd have been used to pay it off. What else wd those loans be for? I think alexandra was refusing to leave hayvenhurst until she got jerm's child support, and wasn't he stuck in africa and not allowed to enter the usa until he paid? The estate probably thought it was in their interests to get alex and the children out of the family home, and just agreed to pay it. I can't imagine, however, that they'd be interested in paying randy's portion. And esp not now.

Yes that's true. One of the family "sources" stated in an article in here somewhere that both Jermaine and Randy asked the estate to pay for their child support to avoid going to jail. The estate gave it to Jermaine through Katherine in the amount of 80,000. We all remember that alejandra got 80,000 and a condo to stay in so she would leave the Encinio home. It appears that Randy did not get help. Maybe his was denied because Alejandra was already going to leave with the 80,000. All the time we were thinking that Jermaine found the money to pay her, and now we see it came from the estate.
 
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"When she was away, and with the children in the responsible care of Tito's son TJ, there was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need".

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ikma93

If they wanted for Katherine to have a stressfree environment then they should have never released that letter because they knew Katherines associate would have asked her/told her about it.

Jermaine confirms that they didnt wanted her to take a call from back home because they didnt want her to talk to certian individuals. That means she were blocked!! Did they for once think of Michaels children when they decided to play this childish game? The children were caught in the middle of this and that's just not acceptable.
 
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Such an obsequious letter from jermaine. Doesn't even answer any of the issues. Really, the very week it was imperative mrs j had to go away for some r and r just so happened to be the week the letter got sent out and mrs j was incommunicado so couldn't refute it. And why couldn't mrs j speak to ppb?

There was never a malicious attempt to "block" the kids from talking with her. We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother.

What is this, the 1950s where there is one telephone in the house that everybody gathers round and waits for it to ring. If mrs j wanted to ring paris she rings paris's phone, if she wants to ring prince she rings prince's phone. If jerms etc were unaware that p and p had their own phones, they certainaly know now.

Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest up because we all come from the same caring place.

Jerms can be so oily. And in any case i thought the story was mrs j was off to the unity concerts before being 'diverted'.
 
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I still hold deep reservations about many issues involving the Estate, and I will continue to bring scrutiny and a resolute voice wherever we have cause for concern. But the way to address such matters is through the proper channels and via a private dialogue, not public conflict.

So he will still be demanding that the Estate pay his child support?


No-one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events
As attorney Perry Sanders has since confirmed, a health check detected high blood pressure with Mother.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/ikma93

And your scheme made her feel a lot better, more relaxed, and lowered her blood pressure?
 
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CNN

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Jermaine Jackson offers 'olive branch' in family feud

By Alan Duke, CNN
updated 4:48 PM EDT, Wed August 1, 2012
STORY HIGHLIGHTS
Jermaine Jackson expresses regret for recent controversy
"Mistakes have been made and irrational things have been said on both sides," he says
Lawyer's letter suggests Janet Jackson's reputation suffered "significant harm"
Jackson family needs private "collective dialogue" to find peace, Jermaine Jackson says

Los Angeles (CNN) -- Jermaine Jackson retracted his signature on a letter made public last month criticizing executors of Michael Jackson's estate and his mother's advisers Monday.
His expression of regret came as a letter from sister Janet Jackson's lawyer surfaced that suggested the pop star's professional reputation has suffered "significant harm" from media reports about the controversy.
"After much soul-searching, it is clearly time for us to live by Michael's words about love not war," Jermaine Jackson said in a statement given to CNN. "In this spirit, I offer this statement by way of extending an olive branch."
It was the letter, originally signed by Jackson siblings Jermaine, Tito, Randy, Janet and Rebbie, that triggered a series of dramatic and public events over the last two weeks that created a deep divide in the famous music family.
They demanded that executors John Branca and John McClain resign, accusing them of emotional and financial abuse of Katherine Jackson
"Your actions are affecting her health, and on top of that, we've just found out she recently had a mini-stroke," it said. "Please understand, she's not equipped to handle the stress load you are putting on her."
Her lawyer later said Katherine Jackson, 82, had not suffered a stroke and was in good health.
The letter also called the will, which left Michael Jackson's wealth to his mother and three children, giving nothing to his siblings, "fake, flawed and fraudulent."
Jermaine Jackson said he has decided the letter should never have been made public, but that his concerns about the estate and will should be expressed through "a private dialogue, not public conflict."
"Accordingly, I rescind my signature from the letter which was sent to the estate, and which should never have gone public," he said.
Tito Jackson retracted his signature last week amid the controversy over his mother's whereabouts and the lack of a phone call to Michael Jackson's children.
Katherine Jackson had custody of Prince, Paris and Blanket Jackson since her son's June 25, 2009, death, but a judge suspended it last week when her lawyers told the court she had been missing and out of communication for 10 days.
Jermaine Jackson said his motivation in taking part in a plan with Janet, Randy and Rebbie Jackson to isolate their mother at an Arizona spa was "rooted in the welfare of our mother in the environment where she lives."
"No one on the outside has a clue about the stresses and pressures she has been under long before recent events and I, like everyone in the family, adore the ground she walks on," he said.
"Rest was the sole reason she went to Arizona," he said. "Prince even carried her bags down the stairs and urged her to rest up, because we all come from the same caring place."
Prince and his sister, however, became vocal through their Twitter accounts about their grandmother's absence and lack of calls. They thought she was flying to a Jackson brothers concert in New Mexico and would return soon, her lawyer said.
"There was never a malicious attempt to 'block' the kids from talking with her," Jermaine Jackson said. "We simply worried that a call home would first entail, or lead to, conversations with individuals we are in dispute with and that would, therefore, increase pressure on Mother -- and pressure was what a doctor said she didn't need."
His statement also addressed the dramatic confrontation on Monday, July 23, at Katherine Jackson's home in Calabasas, California, which sheriff's deputies say ended in a "scuffle."
"We went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother," Jermaine Jackson said. "We were denied that access by security -- and it was clear that mutual suspicions had allowed events to spiral out of control."
Security camera video did not show security guards interfering with Jermaine, Randy and Janet as they entered the Calabasas property.
The video shows Prince and Paris initially greeting the visitors, but it quickly became a confrontation, according to witnesses.

"Where is my grandmother? Where is my grandmother?" Prince repeatedly asked Randy Jackson, according to a witness.
As Prince retreated into the house, entering through the security office door, Randy Jackson followed with his cell phone raised, apparently recording video.
The video then shows Janet Jackson apparently trying to take a cell phone away from Paris Jackson in the driveway. She scolded her niece for using her phone to write about family issues on Twitter, according to the three sources.
Paris Jackson posted a Twitter message about the time the incident ended: "gotta love fam." She also tweeted: "8 days and counting . something is really off , this isn't like her at all .. i wanna talk directly to my grandmother!!
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

So because Michael is no longer around that means that nothing should ever be released with his name on it again? Of course nothin is going to be upto MJ standard because it's not him releasing it..:but just as with Elvis and others that have passed, music an video will keep getting released to keep what he created going

If they stopped released stuff all together cuz some fans were sooking about it, then that is not a world I want to live in! I'd rather keep being excited to see what they're releasing next to keep him alive and to keep bringing new fans in.

It's not about being up to the same standard as MJ would have done but being up to a standard that is at least respectable. The Michael album was far from that so it's perfectly reasonable for fans to have concerns. Their track record so far has not been good.
 
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Randy and Jermanie should be ashamed of theirselves.......Its a disrepect to Michael....who carried their asses long enough.....Pay your child support...Screwed the same woman,both had kids with her....Some messed up mess........Its all about the MONEY.....Janet you and Rebbie really disappointed me and alot of fans....:no:.......smdh.......
 
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The ever-present grief has haunted me with questions about whether we stepped off him too much or whether we did enough to help when a corporate world surrounded him.

Oh i think jerms can rest easy knowing he did plenty to help mj with his moonie concerts in korea, the jackson family honours when the first allegations hit, that great record deal with the bahrani prince, and who cd forget thome thome.
 
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Too late. Grandma can visit their house and see them as a family. Jermaine knows that they lost trust with Michael's kids and now he wants to extend that olive branch to them. The kids are never going to trust them again. Especially if Michael warned them. The will take Michael's words to heart and have more merit to them than anything Jermaine says. Katherine is 82 and raising three young children. If she has high blood pressure it could be a lot of reasons like her middle aged children asking her for money all the time and worried about them. They just blame the estate for everything. They need to accept reality and accept what Michael wanted. The estate doesn't belong to the jackson family. It belongs to Michael and he gave it to his children. There was nothing wrong in that.
 
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CNN
"We went to the house in Calabasas to talk directly with the kids and merely discuss arrangements for them to meet with their grandmother," Jermaine Jackson said.

How is he gonna say they went to 'merely discuss' anything when he knows EVERYONE has seen the security footage?? Janet grabbing Paris' phone is discussing things?
 
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TMZ stated they thought the story was true when they wrote it, so when Paris tweeted how come they did not retract the story. I guess you have to use a lawyer to get some action. Now we need to send Paris' tweet and the date all over so others like Gladys, Jones, etc. can apologize too.

So the rats are running away one at a time. Jermaine needs to address why Rebbie's story about the signers intentions is not the same as Jermaine's. Did Jermaine read what Rebbie told Brown about Janet's reason for getting involved and Randy's intentions about the guardianship. Why can't they read everything each other is saying so they can have a unified account. They don't do that so people can see all the lies and inconsistencies in their statements.

Hopefully, they will now leave the will and estate alone. We all know that Jaafar's question had nothing to do with him removing his name from the letter. He realized he made a bigger fool of himself than usual, and maybe Katherine told him he would not get any more money if he did not behave.

Hopefully, this means that the AEG case will be abandoned too. Otherwise we will have a family who made a public fool of themselves in 2009, 2010, and 2011 in regards to the aborted tributes and products; in 2012 with this failed coup; and 2013 when AEG discloses how they depended Michael financially, they lose the case, and have to pay AEG legal costs. At least they are consistent.
 
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CNN report is spot on. I don't even know how Jermaine can claim they were blocked by security. It's all taped on the record. People on earth all saw they greeted each other first then Janet tried to grab Paris' cell phone. Jermaine may need to go to hospital to check his brain. He seemed to lose memory or can't recall things properly. This is why you should not lie from the beginning because you can't keep your story consist. It's great that CNN can call out on this. The media tend to ignore all those inconsistent storied made by these siblings.
 
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The concept of modern communication tools seems to escape the Jacksons.

To avoid having to speak to Trent, Katherine could not call home.

To explain the situation why grandma could not call home, Janet and Randy have to physically go to Calabassas (could never spell that right!).

It is all very strange.

Obviously RRJJK's phones can only call the landline which only Trent can answer.
 
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The concept of modern communication tools seems to escape the Jacksons.

To avoid having to speak to Trent, Katherine could not call home.

To explain the situation why grandma could not call home, Janet and Randy have to physically go to Calabassas (could never spell that right!).

It is all very strange.

Obviously RRJJK's phones can only call the landline which only Trent can answer.

HAHA! Ya! I believed they all have cell phone. Prince and Paris both have iphone. This is even funnier that they can't just put Katherine on phone and called Prince and Paris' cell phones. Instead they twitter all days and saying Paris were exposed the whole family business online. I can never understand the logic of many Jacksons' brain. Can their brain even function properly?
 
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The concept of modern communication tools seems to escape the Jacksons.

To avoid having to speak to Trent, Katherine could not call home.

To explain the situation why grandma could not call home, Janet and Randy have to physically go to Calabassas (could never spell that right!).

It is all very strange.

Obviously RRJJK's phones can only call the landline which only Trent can answer.

They make things complicated. Rather than get the phone and have Katherine call home, which would cost 10 cents, we are to believe that they rather rent a jet which costs thousands of dollars, then drive to the home, get the children and their passports, put them on the jet, and then fly them to Arizona to talk to Katherine. Does this make sense People of the World? Who thinks up these stories. Oh, Randy!!
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

The concept of modern communication tools seems to escape the Jacksons.

To avoid having to speak to Trent, Katherine could not call home.

To explain the situation why grandma could not call home, Janet and Randy have to physically go to Calabassas (could never spell that right!).

It is all very strange.

Obviously RRJJK's phones can only call the landline which only Trent can answer.

Not only that. OK, Randy might have though that his plan is brilliant: put grandma in the spa, cut the phones so she cannot intervene, lead your letter, create the perfect storm. I believe that they simply forgot that the children will know about this letter right away.
Now, try to imagine it from Paris' point of view: people start twitting her wishing her grandma well. What? What mini-stoke? He lashed at Randy, got "explanation", apologized to Randy, tried to contact grandma to make sure that she is really OK. Whoops.
Randy and other miscalculated big time. Last thing they needed in their little plan is Prince and Paris asking her if she had a mini-stroke according to the letter conveniently released while she was cut from outside communication...
What can I say. Thanks God for modern technology.
 
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He never stops lieing does he.
 
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Wow, first Tito, now Jermaine... Who's next to step back? Perhaps Randy?
 
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He never stops lieing does he.

None of them can ^^. (If you guys want a really big laugh, go to the thread about the will in the controversy section. I thought only Jermaine, Randy, Rebbie and co were capable of giving me a good laugh; but once I read that thread I realized Randy and co have competition.)

Right now the only one who has not talked about the coup is Janet. Rebbie mentioned Randy's and Janet's role, but said nothing about herself. I doubt the two are close now!!!

Randy will be the last to go, because he has the least ability to make money now, although he has an attorney. He will continue to rant on X17 until all his members defect leaving him alone to overthrow the estate.
 
Well looky here, Joe's crawled from under his rock lol.
http://diaryofahollywoodstreetking.com/joe-jackson-checks-in-with-support-for-son-randy/

Joe Jackson Checks in With Support for Son Randy
by Jacky Jasper

Joe Jackson Supports Son Randy

Was Michael Jackson’s Will Forged?

HSK Exclusive - Joe Jackson gave me a ring this morning. Know why? Because the “King of Pop’s” father wanted me to know that he stands behind Randy’s claim that the Michael Jackson will was forged, and should be thrown out.

Here is what Joe had to say:

“I can’t give you all the details Jacky, but my son Randy is telling the truth.

They’ll use my words agianst me. It’s all going to come out soon. They keep printing all these lies. My son Randy, is not a deadbeat father. These people all need to be sued.”

More than three years after Michael Jackson’s death, his youngest brother continues to raise questions about the validity of the pop superstar’s will. Randy Jackson and three of his siblings called on Jackson’s estate executors to resign and renewed charges that their brother’s will is a fake.

Here’s what Randy Jackson had to say:

“I posted a picture of my brother Michael in New York with Al Sharpton on July 7, 2002, the same day he was supposed to be in L.A. signing his will. How can Michael be on both coast at the same time?”

Here’s what probate attorney Howard Klein had to say:

“I don’t see hoe you come in three years later and say, oh, by the way the will’s a fraud, a forgery because he wasn’t in L.A. when he was purported to be. It’s something that should have been brought up a long time ago.”
 
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Right now the only one who has not talked about the coup is Janet. Rebbie mentioned Randy's and Janet's role, but said nothing about herself. I doubt the two are close now!!!

Randy will be the last to go, because he has the least ability to make money now, although he has an attorney. He will continue to rant on X17 until all his members defect leaving him alone to overthrow the estate.

Randy prob sees himself as general custer making a heroic last stand with the wagons circled (well some wagons seem to have disappeared), against the forces of sitting bull branca and his endless army of branca plants. I dont think he'll ever give up.
 
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Hes not a deadbeat father he just gets michael to pay for everything lol and he forgot to add on i cant give any details as its in my book.....that u can buy at all good bookstores. poor senile joe
 
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Well Joe tried and the courts denied him. Of course the proof is coming and we will see sson. It's like a recorded message we hear over and over again. I guess he didn't hear Jermaine's message now.
 
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Jermaine has took his name off the letter. Back tracking I see.

Backpedaling, backpedaling, backpedaling.
 
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Oh no here comes Joe. If Joe is on Randy's side why didn't he sign the letter? I mean, if I tried to challenge a will and was unable to, then my son came to me with evidence and wrote a letter with signatures, I would sign too. The mere fact Joe did not sign makes me think that Joe knows it is a bunch of doo doo.

Joe needs to ask the estate, his son, and the family "source" when was the last time Randy went begging to the estate to ask for money to pay his back child support. Joe, your sons are dead beat dads, and live with it.
 
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