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Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

Despite whatever may have transgressed between her and Michael, I always thought that she would fiercely protect those children that she's known since birth. Boy was I wrong, not only did she criticize Paris for being disrespectful based on a false TMZ report about an altercation with Janet, but she calls her tweets "stupid" and sides with the very people that are attacking the poor girl. :(
In many way those kids probably looked up to her as a mother figure and here she goes throwing Paris under a bus (ala Katherine with Michael), that has to hurt, maybe even more so than the family members that the kids weren't close too during Michael's lifetime.
Seems those kids are doomed to be backstabbed by everyone that's ever breathed on them much like their father was, at least they can lean on each other.

All the kids have now is each other...and the legal system!!!
 
"They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them"

OMG. Is she on drugs or what? What benefit would any one get by being raised by the Jacksons? Probably there are some decent fam. members there, but Michael's siblings, and imo, his parents don't know much about what it takes to be a decent person. There's no benefit there.


"They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests."

Teens will tweet for any & for no reason at all. But Paris & Prince didn't say anything stupid and they didn't offend anyone. It'll be interesting to know how not letting the kids speak to their grandma is in the best interest of the children.


"Michael loved his children very much. He gave them the tools they will need to become good and decent individuals."

Then, they didn't need to be raised by other family members. They had the benefit of being raised by their father. Besides if you have a child, you are the one who has to raise him not your family.


"I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt.

I didn't get that. Is she trying to say that Paris is lying? I wonder what does she think about Janet's text?


"No child should have 700,000 followers on twitter or any other social media platform"

And who's responsible for the number of followers, Paris or the people that follows her?


"Please, be fair to Paris... It breaks my heart to think that Paris and her brothers could become the subject of endless criticism for simply being kids."

She's not being fair to Paris and ask people to be fair. Really, who's criticizing the kids here? I want to believe that she had good intentions, but i don't think it came out the way she wanted it.
 
Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

The link works for me....idk why some of you guys cant see it.
 
Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

This doesn't sit right. Seems like she's not being honest with herself, and wants to make people happy. I could be wrong.

I agree!!! In this situation, trying to appease all involved is obviously NOT in the best interests of who is important which in this case is the children. This woman has no clue as to what is going on and her calling Paris' tweets stupid and they should be taken with a grain of salt is quite pathetic to me. This situation is more serious than what she knows!!!
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I can't believe how this has split the fans...just saw on twitter someone accusin mjjc of "brainwashing the masses"... And that we're pretending to love Michael just to hate his family, that real fans wouldn't hate his family..there's some boycotting Bad25...
This is crazy!!! Michael and his kids should ALWAYS be first in the mind of a fan.
 
Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

MJ fired her, and she seems very bitter. Paris did a brave thing by tweeting truth and the truth needed to be told.

I agree. Paris is like myself; I don't hold back and let people walk over me which is what the Jackson family and their supporters are trying to do to these kids. Grace, Gladys, and the entire Jackson family needs to crawl under a rock and just stay there until those kids are old enough to support themselves...hopefully when Prince turns 18 they can leave camp and separate themselves from the leeches!!!
 
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This line is killing me "They did not have the benefit of being raised and disciplined by other family members who loved them."

She's been around Michael for 12 yrs. right? I'd love to know if she saw enough contact bet Michael & his fam during those years to believe they kids missed such great benefit.

That post, from Paris is just a kid & kids makes mistakes to take what she says with a grain of salt, have made my head spin.
 
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^Anyone who is boycotting Bad 25, is essentially boycotting Michael. They need to think long and hard whether they are really fans of Michael or someone else...
 
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^Anyone who is boycotting Bad 25, is essentially boycotting Michael. They need to think long and hard whether they are really fans of Michael or someone else...

Actually quite the opposite is true. People have a right not to support certain products if they deem them not to be up the standard that Michael would want or that they are in some way disrespecting Michael. This is why I boycotted the Michael album. Some people are choosing to give an equivalent amount of money to charity instead of buying products. Remember, these aren't MJ products. They are Sony products.
 
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Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I believe K loves all of her children and wants every one of them equally well off, even if it means throwing/sacrifice the deceased one under the bus. Apparently, in her mind, she thinks that there is nothing she can do for Michael, she at least can try to help other siblings.
I don't forget what she has said about Michael in her interviews, nor will I forget what she is ready do and say in certain court cases.

You're so right. Recently in the article that says Katherine was furious with Randy for his schemes, she didn't mention Rebbie, Tito, Lovely Jermaine or Janet. Not that I feel sorry for Randy, but why place the responsibility only on one? They always need a sacrificial lamb.
 
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Actually quite the opposite is true. People have a right not to support certain products if they deem them not to be up the standard that Michael would want or that they are in some way disrespecting Michael. This is why I boycotted the Michael album. Some people are choosing to give an equivalent amount of money to charity instead of buying products. Remember, these aren't MJ products. They are Sony products.

The money the estate is making is not only paying off Michael's debt but going to his children; so yes in boycotting you're boycotting MJ and MJ3,,,the Bad25 campaign is amazing and is likely to bring in new and younger fans. They'll be able to rediscover "bad" as well as see a concert and a documentary. With the money going into the kids trust fund.

Boycotting this and supporting the Jackson family is behind ridiculous.
 
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The money the estate is making is not only paying off Michael's debt but going to his children; so yes in boycotting you're boycotting MJ and MJ3,,,the Bad25 campaign is amazing and is likely to bring in new and younger fans. They'll be able to rediscover "bad" as well as see a concert and a documentary. With the money going into the kids trust fund.

Boycotting this and supporting the Jackson family is behind ridiculous.

First of all I didn't say I was boycotting Bad 25. I also didn't mention anything about supporting the family. Secondly I respect Michael enough as an artist that I won't buy just anything with his name slapped on for the sake of it. Michael's children are set up for life so the suggestion that a few fans not buying a certain release somehow will affect those children is ridiculous.
 
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I don't think if you are a fan of Michael you automatically have to like his family too. They are all different. I have tried not to judge or be disrespectful but I just don't agree with their thinking or actions. When I buy something it's because I want to have it.
 
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I dont know if ivy has said this on here but on her twittter ( hope u dont mind me saying this ivy ) but she said the debbie row /ET interview is an old one from 2004, its totally irrelevant to what has been going on now
 
Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

What i wanna know is what was up with her " michael jackson bubble" comment
 
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Actually quite the opposite is true. People have a right not to support certain products if they deem them not to be up the standard that Michael would want or that they are in some way disrespecting Michael. This is why I boycotted the Michael album. Some people are choosing to give an equivalent amount of money to charity instead of buying products. Remember, these aren't MJ products. They are Sony products.

Re. the Michael album, I know people have legitimate concerns, but the same can't be said of Bad 25. I don't want to derail the thread further, but I just have to say this. The MJ products are authorised by his Estate, who represent Michael today whether some fans like it or not.

If fans boycott what they put out, and products don't sell, there might be a day where they think Michael is no longer marketable and new releases become less frequent. Michael's legacy will perserver, but new projects are needed to keep his memory alive and introduce him to a new generation of fans. In essence, fans who fuss and yell 'boycott' for everything are not helping Michael in the long term. And that's a fact.
 
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can't believe I was among those who once questioned Mike's decision for firing her , sorry MICHAEL .
 
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She agrees with the spirit of Knight's comments? Threatening a child with kicking out her teeth? Goodness gracious! :bugeyed

And she's totally missing the point of the whole drama. Interesting that she doesn't say anything about Prince's tweet complete with evidence...

"They will say and tweet stupid things and even offend the very people trying to protect their best interests."

Randy and Co. trying to protect their best interest? Are you freaking kidding me, Grace?
 
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(Posted today on her Facebook)

I am confident that in time, Paris and her brothers will learn that their family loves and wants what’s best for them. Until then, please take her tweets with a grain of salt.

Grace Rwaramba

Link > http://www.facebook.com/rwaramba/posts/10151147919751565


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Some things are confusing.... :scratch: :fear:


Dear Grace, if I were you I'd be quiet about it.... it seems that you are wanting to poke the vespiary (?). :doh: Do not try to mess up more this story :nono:, please! :pray: :unsure:
 
Re: A Letter From Grace Rwaramba

Well, well. Michael did not raise a daughter who will lay down and be the doormat for others walk over.

You know that Paris hit a raw nerve when a bunch of adults (largely female...) want to 'reign in' the teenager and merely manage to expose their own issues.

Nobody who has someone's 'best interest' at heart will pull the 'daddy taught you to respect your elders' guilt card. Way to make backhanded comments.
Whoever wrote this, congrats on just coming across as reveling in cat fight mentality. Why a bunch of grown women (supposedly...) feel the need to publicly try to shame a teenager will forever be beyond me.

Pathetic. To describe this letter as 'backhanded and passive-aggressive' is being mild. Note: Whenever someone says "You're pretty xyz, for being xyz." - run for the hills and don't bother.

Why does it feel like all these ladies want to impress Michael by demonstrating their scolding abilities that nobody asked for??? Give it up ladies, no point in that anymore.
And note the misogynie (coming especially from women: Gladys Knight, this letter) - I am assuming the letter was relayed in its entirety. I guess again it's only girls who oughta straighten up, fly right and keep the family mess to themselves, or something? Things don't apply to Paris' brother? Say wut? Pathetic.
 
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I guess she will not be hearing our comments, because you may have to be a friend of hers to contact her.

I wonder how Paris feels about herself when she hears/sees people blaming her, and it is embarrassing that most of those who do so are older women: Gladys, women on the View, Grace. The only younger person who told her not to tweet family business was Chris Brown. No one comments that before the tweets, 4 Jacksons had already exposed their business in a letter. No one is commenting on how they should have kept the business quiet, though, because it is easier to pick on a child than an adult.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Actually quite the opposite is true. People have a right not to support certain products if they deem them not to be up the standard that Michael would want or that they are in some way disrespecting Michael. This is why I boycotted the Michael album. Some people are choosing to give an equivalent amount of money to charity instead of buying products. Remember, these aren't MJ products. They are Sony products.

How do they know Bad25 is not up to the standard when it hasn't been released yet? Obviously at this point anyone talking of a boycott of Bad25 does not do it because it's not up to the standard (we don't know yet if it will be).
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

So because Michael is no longer around that means that nothing should ever be released with his name on it again? Of course nothin is going to be upto MJ standard because it's not him releasing it..:but just as with Elvis and others that have passed, music an video will keep getting released to keep what he created going

If they stopped released stuff all together cuz some fans were sooking about it, then that is not a world I want to live in! I'd rather keep being excited to see what they're releasing next to keep him alive and to keep bringing new fans in.
 
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