Michael's mom reported missing /Grandma's Home/TJ appointed Co/Guardian with Katherine

Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

TJ was actually in Texas when Katherine left, so no, she did not leave him in charge of the kids. As for Trent, the siblings claimed he was the dangerous person from whom Katherine needed to be separated from. If he's such a manipulative, dangerous bastard why to leave MJ's kids with him while you take away their guardian? Why not allow MJ's kids to communicate with their guardian while they are left alone with this dangerous bastard?
How do you know this, and is this confirmed by TJ himself? I do not think Janet and the rest are that close to Trent so not sure why they'd leave the kids with him. Perhaps they didn't think Trent is a threat to the kids, but to them?
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Constructive criticism is fine. I agree with most of it. I just wish people would ease down on the outright insults. That's what's getting the site a bad name.

And for the record, it took me less than ten minutes to do a few google searches and find out what Gaz and Ivy do for a living and to prove that they are NOT in the employ of the estate/sony. I disagree with things they have said in the past, and I have a very different opinion of certain things to Ivy (see debate thread lol) but I have been able to express my opinion without being silenced, banned, brainwashed or anything else so I really think it's time for these crazy conspiracy theories to stop. I suppose that now means I am a robot built by the estate in order to infiltrate the fan community.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Constructive criticism is fine. I agree with most of it. I just wish people would ease down on the outright insults. That's what's getting the site a bad name.

And for the record, it took me less than ten minutes to do a few google searches and find out what Gaz and Ivy do for a living and to prove that they are NOT in the employ of the estate/sony. I disagree with things they have said in the past, and I have a very different opinion of certain things to Ivy (see debate thread lol) but I have been able to express my opinion without being silenced, banned, brainwashed or anything else so I really think it's time for these crazy conspiracy theories to stop. I suppose that now means I am a robot built by the estate in order to infiltrate the fan community.
haha that's not what I was saying but that was hilarious :D
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

As I said, less than 10 times during her whole career. Michael has prob spoken more about his family than J ever has.

How many of those times did she talk about Michael was addicted to drugs without knowing how he lived his life for several years?
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

How many of those times did she talk about Michael was addicted to drugs without knowing how he lived his life for several years?

Once or twice, which was extremely exceptional for her to talk about. How do YOU know if she knew or not? As Jermaine said in the interview on THIS BOARD, just because they're saying he was a drug addict does NOT mean they're saying he was that in 2009.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Janet should've clarified what period she was talking about them.. she was acting like MJ was a crackhead or something. I will never forgive her for that
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Janet should've clarified what period she was talking about them.. she was acting like MJ was a crackhead or something. I will never forgive her for that

I don't think she was. Have you seen her talk about anything in a direct way? She just doesn't lol
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

No. She did not. TJ was left in charge of the kids, among with Trent(?). Katherine and Jermaine both confirmed this.

Let me clarify - I mean unattended by her. The question here is not whether she left someone else in charge. It is which version of the story is the correct one - did she choose to take a complete break or did she unwittingly find herself ata spa, where all of her communication and information tools were removed or malfunctioning?

If it was a voluntary break -then she lied to the judge.

If it was involuntary break - then she lied to the general public.



I am not a lawyer nor do I know the truth behind the will. It sure seems like it might be fake, but again, I cannot say. Neither can anyone else on this board.

Agreed. But if I recall correctly a court of law was satisfied with that any anomalies were explained and resolved. And the time period for challenging the will has passed. There is no legal recourse here. There does not seem much point in raising this issue three years after the fact.

Well you can look at it in two different ways; TJ getting the co-guardianship is in some opinion exactly what the estate wanted, and he would greatly benefit this. On the other hand (and this is MY opinion), I think the most important thing is that Katherine isn't so stressed that her kids need to worry about her health and that the kids have some say on it. Seems like the situation has calmed down now, and they reached some sort of conclusion.

I also agree that the co-guardianship is a good idea. It cannot be easy for an 82 year old woman to deal with active teenagers. And since TJ has been involved from the beginning, it is good that his commitment is now legally recognised.


There can be a million different motivations behind Janet being a part of this. If we knew the truth we could speculate it further but we don't! All I know is that Janet has always been extremely private and careful not to be involved in these messy Jackson dramas because it is harmful for her image. She is a brand, and such rumours only hurt her career. There must've been something very serious going on, for her to get involved in it.

That was my thought as well. But I do feel that her reputation has been damaged by this incident and she needs to say something. She stood behind her mother while she read a statement indicating that she had not been kidnapped and was not missing. Now Mrs Jackson says she was taken against her will. The public is left to infer that those persons who stood around KJ were actually her captors (for the lack of better word). It is not good for your image for your mother to allege (however subtly) that you kidnapped her.

And if the Jackson family have proof of "something very serious going on", it should have been dealt with through the courts and not through a letter to the executors. Hire the lawyers, take the evidence to the police, whatever. Do something more than just writing a letter.


The family doesn't live for Michael and his memory. I think each member of the Jackson family have indeed paid major homage to their brother, and continue to do so. I personally believe the album "Michael" is only half-authentic and therefore my opinion on the Estate's honouring is a bit biased ;)

I have always maintained that there is more to the lives of the Jacksons than what is going on with Michael. And that is as it should be. But I do feel that as they continue to honour their brother that they do so within the legal restrictions, even if they do not agree with those restrictions.

TBH I haven't paid attention to the Michael album debacle. But I am impressed with what the estate has done: TII film, Cirque's Immortal, BAD25. Which is not to say that there will not be times when I will not be UNimpressed, but for now I am satisfied. Most fans just want Michael to be honoured in a positive, classy and professional way. In a way that truly reflects the hugeness of his legacy.


Haha if we had the actual FACTS of what really happened, we wouldn't be here bashing out every Jackson family member for things we are GUESSING they did.

We may guess at motivations but certain things are not in dispute:

1] RRJJ sent a letter to the executors and this letter was leaked to the media

2] Katherine Jackson left her charges and did not have any contact them for over 11 days.

3] Marlon said he was unable to reach his mother

4] Janet and Randy went to the Calabassas residence and Janet attempted to take Paris' phone and a physical altercation occurred between two adults at the residence

5] Katherine Jackson made a statement saying she was not kidnapped

6] TJ Jackson has applied for co-guardianship

7] Tito and Jermaine have distanced themselves from the letter which was leaked

8] Katherine Jackson has now claimed that she did not know she was going to the spa and all of her phones were taken from her

Have I misstated anything here?
 
Last edited:
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

1] RRJJ sent a letter to the executors and this letter was leaked to the media

2] Katherine Jackson left her charges and did not have any contact them for over 11 days.

3] Marlon said he was unable to reach his mother

4] Janet and Randy went to the Calabassas residence and Janet attempted to take Paris' phone and a physical altercation occurred between two adults at the residence

5] Katherine Jackson made a statement saying she was not kidnapped

6] TJ Jackson has applied for co-guardianship

7] Tito and Jermaine have distanced themselves from the letter which was leaked

8] Katherine Jackson has now claimed that she did not know she was going to the spa and all of her phones were taken from her

Have I misstated anything here?
I'm not convinced with the kids not being able to talk to her, or the kids not knowing that she was going. Didn't Jermaine say that they we're there when she was leaving? Jermaine also said that the reason why he distanced himself was because of his kids not being able to see Katherine. As for the two different stories from Katherine.... It is very, very strange. I can imagine, though Janet or Jermaine telling her to blame them, so she can have the custody back. It'd be something Janet would say for sure. But I don't know of course.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I'm not convinced with the kids not being able to talk to her, or the kids not knowing that she was going. Didn't Jermaine say that they we're there when she was leaving? Jermaine also said that the reason why he distanced himself was because of his kids not being able to see Katherine. As for the two different stories from Katherine.... It is very, very strange. I can imagine, though Janet or Jermaine telling her to blame them, so she can have the custody back. It'd be something Janet would say for sure. But I don't know of course.

So you are saying that Paris and Prince are not telling the truth.

Also, in his last tweet Jermaine said that no-one was MALICIOUSLY trying to avoid people from speaking to Katherine. That means that people were prevented but it was not done in a malicious way.

Katherine Jackson said in the court document that she thought she was going to the Unity concerts. For all we know, Prince thought that too!
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

So you are saying that Paris and Prince are not telling the truth.

Also, in his last tweet Jermaine said that no-one was MALICIOUSLY trying to avoid people from speaking to Katherine. That means that people were prevented but it was not done in a malicious way.

Katherine Jackson said in the court document that she thought she was going to the Unity concerts. For all we know, Prince thought that too!

Nah I'm not saying anything, I just saying not convinced with any of the stories. I hope more details will come out soon, as currently it's all a mess and you can believe what you want...
 
JustMe00;3684470 said:
TheChosenOne;3684462 said:
I'm not convinced with the kids not being able to talk to her, or the kids not knowing that she was going. Didn't Jermaine say that they we're there when she was leaving? Jermaine also said that the reason why he distanced himself was because of his kids not being able to see Katherine. As for the two different stories from Katherine.... It is very, very strange. I can imagine, though Janet or Jermaine telling her to blame them, so she can have the custody back. It'd be something Janet would say for sure. But I don't know of course.

Didn´t the children know that she was going to see some of her childrens concerts ?
Their father died suddenly and they heard their grandmother had a ministroke ,she didn´t go to the concerts and they couldn´t call her.
The children had a reason to be worried.
 
JustMe00;3684444 said:
Once or twice, which was extremely exceptional for her to talk about. How do YOU know if she knew or not? As Jermaine said in the interview on THIS BOARD, just because they're saying he was a drug addict does NOT mean they're saying he was that in 2009.

Janet went on every talk show and late night show she could book herself on spreading the LIE Michael was a hopeless drug addict that she and her siblings tried so hard to save and help. According to her “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”. Jermaine on the other hand said no interventions ever took place. None of the others can give times or dates they gathered to help MJ with his "addiction" but they have all given interviews. All of them including "Mother" love to get on TV and throw Michael under the bus.
 
Victory22;3684494 said:
Janet went on every talk show and late night show she could book herself on spreading the LIE Michael was a hopeless drug addict that she and her siblings tried so hard to save and help. According to her “You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make him drink”. Jermaine on the other hand said no interventions ever took place. None of the others can give times or dates they gathered to help MJ with his "addiction but they have all given interviews. All of them uncluding "Mother" love to get on TV and throw Michael under the bus.
Yeah I'm not going to answer messages like this, sorry. You clearly have an issue with her, and not only for the reasons you state. You should read the Jermaine interview on this board, though.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Yeah I'm not going to answer messages like this, sorry. You clearly have an issue with her, and not only for the reasons you state. You should read the Jermaine interview on this board, though.

Why so I can listen to him contradict himself again? I have issues with Janet because she has back stabbed her brother for years and now she is going after MJ's kids. You bet I have a lot of issues with Ms. Janet (two-face) Jackson.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Why so I can listen to him contradict himself again? I have issues with Janet because she has back stabbed her brother for years and now she is going after MJ's kids. You bet I have a lot of issues with Ms. Janet (two-face) Jackson.
So it seems.... Good luck with that.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I've read through most of this thread and I had to register to say this.... You people are extremely arrogant, and you shamelessly twist every story about this subject. If Michael was alive, he would be furious with his "fans" attacking his family. I know MJ fans have always been very arrogant towards the rest of the Jackson family, but this is getting ridiculous.

As for Janet thanking her fans for the support; it's simply cause her fans made "#weloveujanet" trend on twitter and she noticed that. Several celebs were doing it, so how could she miss it... I despise the comments on this forum saying "Janet has added more fiction" or "Janet won't comment". No, Janet will not comment on this subject. But if you knew ANYTHING about her, you'd also know she never comments on family matters! The times she has said anything at all have been less than 10, during her whole career. I've also noticed, that with each twist to the story some of you are quick to change your invalid argument to suit the current events better, and make Jermaine, Randy and Janet look bad. You say one thing at first, and then quickly change it to something else. Ie. First Katherine was innocent and perfect, now she's greedy... Really? I know there is no point in trying to reason with you people, as no matter what anyone says, you've decided to believe your own delusional truth. It's very sad for me to see & read. I love Michael, and I love Janet. I thought Janet Jackson's fans were horrible but now that I've read this thread I can honestly say J fans have nothing on you.

I'm 100% positive, that even if Paris Jackson herself stepped up and said "Yes, it was Trent's and the estate's scheme all along and Janet was just trying to protect Katherine", you guys would STILL twist it and claim the kids were forced to say that and other BS like that. Very unhealthy and delusional..... Yes, everyone who knows this forum knows it's reputation and the connection with the estate. But even still... Insane.


Well what Janet, Randy, Jermain and Rebbie did is not something normal.Right? So people are going to talk and comment about it, especially since what they did was public.I know that it must hurt you to see your idol,Janet, who had a different profile since now behave in such a strange and wrong way but what can you do.

What is unhealthy and unusual is kidnap and lie to your own mother and not people natural reaction to comment on such incredible behavior.

So all in all is not people's fault that Janet and her siblings are getting the criticism that they do.Is their fault.They had no business messing with MJ's kids and his money.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Ok guys - let us get back on track before mods have to come and make us behave!
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Mod Note speak of the devil :evil:and look who appears :lol:
Ok guys can we please get this thread back on topic - the bickering back and forth is going no where when there is no points being discussed and its just going to lead to personal arguments. If you have nothing further constructive to add lets get back to discussing the topic of the thread .. and please be respectful in your your tone one another regardless of your views _ Thanks
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Yes, Michael Jackson, after their mother was murdered, became like a father to TJ and his brothers, Taj and Taryll. I'm glad TJ is returning that love to Michael's children: Michael Jackson Jr., Paris-Michael, and Prince Michael II.
Here's a Beautiful Video of Michael Jackson singing with the 3T.
Enjoy:

 
Last edited:
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I'm reading Jackson Family Values by Margaret Maldonaldo and it mentioned Katherine as being somewhat "two-faced" and always taking her children side

I guess not anymore by what I'm reading recently on the news..
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I think we need to hold hands and sing Cry.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

According to the Trust, nothing really happens until each turns 21:

The children's shares will be held in separate trusts also with John Branca and John McClain serving as Co-Trustees. Until each child reaches 21, distributions are left in the complete discretion of the Co-Trustees. At 21, each child will receive all of the net income from his or her own trust and principal if the Co-Trustees determine that the net income is not sufficient to provide for the child's "reasonable care, support, maintenance and education." Each child will receive 1/3 of the remaining trust principal outright at 30, another 1/2 outright at 35, and the remaining balance outright at 40. In addition, the Co-Trustees are given discretion to accelerate principal distributions if a child is in need of funds to buy a home, start a family, or start a business.

So when Prince turns 21 and Paris a year later, we may see some big changes.

Yes, but isn't that only in regards to the Estate? Could Prince become a legal guardian for Paris and Blanket at 18? Because it's highly probable that Katherine might not be able or live long enough to see Blanket become an adult. Paris maybe, but Blanket?
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Nothing's change I can see.:(
I think we need to hold hands and sing Cry.
Or we could just hold hands and sing "Hold my hand" - we are all so passionate in our views but we all love Michael no doubt
becuase he taught us to love one another and help heal the world. We dont have to always agree to care about each other
The events from 6/25 on have been hard on each and every one of us .. no matter what our view or what we believe.
Lets remember that. We didnt cause the madness going on around us we are just tryign to come to grips with it.

We need a little love in this thread

A Message From Michael - Hold My Hand & Heal The World
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Lies, lies & more lies.

The mother - either she lied on tv when she said she didn't want to call the children or she lied on her declaration when she says they took her phone & ipad away from her.

The children - either they lied when they say......never mind. The say too many lies.

How can anyone trust any member of the Jackson family? The mother, the children- i don't know about the grandchildren- but they have good teachers. But it's good is happening this way. They're unmasking themselves & now more poeple will know who they really are. And all that for money.

In their quest to get their hands on Michael's money they are alienating the kids and they're failing to realize that the kids are the money. A smart person would have try hard to be on their side, but the Jacksons are not smart. Well, there was one.

I know what you mean about Katherine. She could be both, naive and easily manipulated but also smart as a fox, who knows. Thinking about it some more, it is hard to believe she threw her own children under the bus, that does not seem to fit her m.o.
But I would like to believe that what she said to the court under oath is the truth, and she may finally had a wake up call and realized her children are not exactly what she thought they were. Well money does do strange things to ppl, lol. I don't completely trust Katherine, and I don't think Michael in the end didn't completely trust her either.

It is surprising that Janet as smart as I THOUGHT she was went along with this absurd and foolish plot. Those Jacksons have shown their true colors with this craziness, they're not only dysfunctional but also lack any common sense and smarts. Like you say, Michael was the only one with the genius in him and he passed those trait, thank goodness, to his 3 children.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I just want his kids to be okay. What happened was just crazy and no kids should not be able to talk to their parent or guardian for like 10 days. I don't care who you are. Whatever the true story is the fact that Paris tweeted the days like " 8, 9 days" not talking to Katherine was heartbreaking to see. All the kids wanted was to talk to Katherine. A simple phonecall would have taken care of it and not have this situation explode into what it did. I don't think Michael would not talk to the kids for that length of time. This is not the kind of drama Michael would want for his kids. No parent would want that.
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

Haaaa a pity they did not have the family reunion though. It would have been more entertaining than the granny snatchers plot, and as usual we would have a "family source" who would spill all the information to the media for money. We would all learn about the fighting, biting, scratching, pulling, tugging while they eat food that Michael money paid for.

Can you imagine that family reunion in a reality show- wow- I'm sure those reality producers would have been salivating- lol And it would have been w/o any production, it would have "real" reality show, ha ha
 
Re: Michael's mom reported missing /TJ temp Guardianship/Grandma's Home

I think canceling the family reunion was a smart idea. I mean seriously how weird would it be to be near a bunch of people u don't even want in ur house?! o_O The stare downs would be epic if it actually happens!? lol I'm sure it was already when the children had to go to one of the unity concerts right after Katherine returned home...can u say awkward! SMH
 
Last edited:
Back
Top