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[Discussion] Sexual Abuse Claims Against MJ Estate - Robson/ Safechuck/ Doe

Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

marebear said:
the only person abused here was michael. He was abused physically, emotionally, verbally, psychologically and financially most of his life. He was abused by the media, the paps and the public. He was used by people and people looked at him like he was an atm machine. Michael wouldn't hurt a bug on the stage let alone a child. What he suffered as a child always stayed with him and i don't believe he would traumatize another person because he knows what it's like to live with pain from abuse. I also think if the today show really has him on that it really shows how desperate they are as well.
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amen:)
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

bouee said:
I thought about that. I don't know if they can do anything, but I don't think they should : the Arvizos self destroyd on cross examination. Robson did not change that. I believe if Robson had not testified , Michael would have been acquitted anyway.
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sure he would. The evidence was in MJ's favor even without Robson :)

And with the Arvizo's not doing well on the stand, them suing could REALLY put a light on their lies - and Robson's. It could be a 2 for 1 bargain :)
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Vici said:
Im just re-watch TMZ Live. They are clearly not buying it.

Summary:

Harvey and the other dude said "It would make more sense IF the memory was repressed- totally more sense..."

"If MJ is telling you 'our lives/career will be over' then you would think there is something wrong with that. Understand if a 7 yr old would not tell anybody but when he is 22 yrs old in 2005 in the trial when the whole premesis its wrong to do but it allegedly happened to him how would he then think it wasnt wrong, he knows he is not gonna go to jail when he is 22 if he is the victim so it doenst make sense".

"If you are in court and hearing these details that you would remember and the details for him was that he was not molested.. huge problewm for Wade,..."

"All his no answers to prosecutors on trial, when he was 22 yrs old,.... Up to a point, alot of ppl felt bad for him but this will really hurt him in his process.. he remembers it all but couldnt process it, he is saying under oath nothing happened... he basically lied then"

"So he lied back then.. its hard to trust someone like that and a jury is gonna see it the same way".

Harvey - "My gut is that Wade Robson did not do himself any favor by going on the show today... it doesnt add up".

Harvey - "When he said its not about money, well thats why you file a creditors claim.. "

"Wade said 'im not just after a settlement for it to go away' but the problem here is that MJ is dead... another thing if he was alive and wanted to bring him to court.. thats the big difference here. Ultimately, thats what this thing is about: MONEY"
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Finally TMZ isn't believing this crap, shame it took a botched interview full of lies to realize it
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Faith kind of restoring in society now, people aren't buying his BS. only people that are buying it are those who always thought the worst of Michael.

Screw em.
 
LastTear;3824930 said:
Last night Blanca, 57, said she felt “vindicated” and would back Wade in court.
She claimed: “I stand by every word I have ever said.”
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LOL which words were that then? I'd LOVE to see her get annihilated once more in the court room.

Kingofpop4ever3000;3824906 said:
Personally, I think Wade is trying to invite others to accuse Michael to make his story sound true. I think he knows that most people are not buying his claims.
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Yup, he is. Just like Sneddon in 2005.

So far it seems he's relying on Blanca Francia and mysterious unknown victims who have also previously denied it repeatedly before.

VaNiL;3824951 said:
Did you know that Corey Feldman is about to release a tell-all-book about his life?

What do you think? Will he betray Michael... again? He has less credibility than OJ Simpson, but still...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20700688,00.html
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Whatever he could say, he's always denied being sexually abused and was recently befriending Paris on twitter. I don't believe he will say anything like that.

He may not be positive about MJ, but I don't think we need to worry.
 
VaNiL;3824951 said:
Did you know that Corey Feldman is about to release a tell-all-book about his life?

What do you think? Will he betray Michael... again? He has less credibility than OJ Simpson, but still...

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20700688,00.html
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He was on UK's Dancing on Ice 2012, and he "tried" to do tribute to Michael, so I don't think he is going to claim anything about Michael, unless he too suffers from repressed memore/no I remember everything syndrome.

He is going to name 2 names in the industry that DID molested him
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"When I was 14 and 15, things were happening to me," he said. "These older men were leching around like vultures. It was basically me laying there pretending I was asleep and them going about their business.

"I will write a book - I will put all the information forward."
Feldman, 40, first opened up about the seedy side of the industry after his Lost Boys costar and best friend Corey Haim died, however at the time he wouldn’t name names.
"Corey and I were pegged as the scapegoats," said Feldman. "People need to know the reason Corey and I were swept under the carpet like the beaten dogs that were sent to the pound so no one had to deal with us anymore.
"I stood up and said there is a bigger problem, that I’d lost Corey and that I didn’t want to see any more kids lost to these sick perverts."
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He says older men, and Michael wasn't old in 80's.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

la_cienega said:
LOL which words were that then? I'd LOVE to see her get annihilated once more in the court room.
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LOL, yeah. They should have asked her what version of her story she stands by. Because there was more than one version. LOL. I wonder if she's still friends with Victor Gutierrez.

As for Corey Feldman, wasn't there a preview about his book on some website recently? If he claimed something incriminating about MJ that would be headlines, but I haven't seen anything like that, so he probably does not.

I wish though he wouldn't just run his mouth about naming real Hollywood pedos. Didn't he promise that about 2 years ago? And still nothing. He should either put up and name names or shut up. It's not good that he just drops hints and innocent people get suspected and accused because of that on various blogs and forums.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

There's a limit to boy cry wolf.
Backlash awaits to those crying it!
Very soon the tabels will be turned on them.
Reality hits home to find the real wolves are the ones crying over it.
"Wolf" amounts to nothing more than a mere Big-Foot print
floating on a figment of their imagination invented for the money grab machination

Hey Wade dude!...
I hear there's a place rent FREE that comes with three happy meals!



It's called : Mental Institution!

And with you being out of the equation,
it makes a whole lot easier to provide for your son & wife!

The fight goes on. Michael supporters' airtime should not be usurped by the number of haters.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

And what about Safechuck? I've always wondered WHY he kept silence through ALL Michael troubles... I just don't trust anybody right now. Paranoid mode ON.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

VaNiL said:
And what about Safechuck? I've always wondered WHY he kept silence through ALL Michael troubles... I just don't trust anybody right now. Paranoid mode ON.
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Me neither - but again, IF he ever makes a claim, (IMO) it'll loose a lot of credibility because he didnt join in back in 05. How do you explain and reason not doing so IF you have a legitimate claim?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Safechuck told investigators in 2005 that nothing happened, Harvey Levin also tracked him down and his family said nothing happened to them too.

I figure he and his family just like being private people.

Though I do wish he'd say something in support of MJ - just to blow off any of the BS people can assign him during times like this.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Pimboli said:
Me neither - but again, IF he ever makes a claim, (IMO) it'll loose a lot of credibility because he didnt join in back in 05. How do you explain and reason not doing so IF you have a legitimate claim?
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I know, it will be a nonsense. But STILL since all this Robson thing is happening, I just don't know anymore. I couldn't even thought in my worst nightmares that this could be happening, OR that this kind of claims could have ANY legal value. ANYONE who ever befriended Michael could claim the same thing: brainwashed, bought silence, repressed memories... whatever they want! As long as it has to do with Michael Jackson... anything counts :(.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

la_cienega said:
Safechuck told investigators in 2005 that nothing happened, Harvey Levin also tracked him down and his family said nothing happened to them too.

I figure he and his family just like being private people.

Though I do wish he'd say something in support of MJ - just to blow off any of the BS people can assign him during times like this.
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Who is safechuck? ? ?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

^Jimmy
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Debbie Row calls robson an Opportunist and oozes of falseness. She say robson will not put a stain on the memory of the KING OF POP. (TMZ REPORT).
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

VaNiL said:
I know, it will be a nonsense. But STILL since all this Robson thing is happening, I just don't know anymore. I couldn't even thought in my worst nightmares that this could be happening, OR that this kind of claims could have ANY legal value. ANYONE who ever befriended Michael could claim the same thing: brainwashed, bought silence, repressed memories... whatever they want! As long as it has to do with Michael Jackson... anything counts :(.
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I know. And that is WHY the estate MUST fight Wade tooth and nail. Show no mercy, no matter how ridiculous and transparent his claims are. The estate needs to show every free loader out there looking for a quick $$ that going after MJ's Achilles heel is not an easy thing to do. That is the only way for this nightmare to stop :(

innuendo141 said:
Who is safechuck? ? ?
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isnt he the boy, who joined MJ onstage in "bad" during the bad wembley show?
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

innuendo141 said:
Who is safechuck? ? ?
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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

STEVE HARVEY is PLAYING ALL of MJ songs/Jacksons song. He is MAD. IT is great.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

FYI: Corey Feldman to Paris Jackson in 2012.

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Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

ABC news here talk about MJ. The were glad Taj told his story. The host seem to support MJ. The guy said, I am glad the Taj told this because this show what MJ was all about.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

I don't know friends. I have stayed away from posting on here for sometime. My personal evaluation of the whole thing is this is not good not good at all Michael is taking a beating out there. To say that all this is suspicious would be a understatement. I believe tmz and AEG are in bed together. It's funny how tmz has all this so called info. No reporting on the trial just child abuse claims and bad things. The jury is not sequestered in this case so with all the bad publicity that all the see. It's a move to influence the public and the jury. If you read the comments under the stories in the articles for the most part the slam MJ and call him a molester. To say this is terrible and damaging is a understatement. Wait til AEG puts on there case it's going to be way worse than this I believe. I have a feeling they will bring up Anthony Pelicano and other shady characters in MJ past plus my abuse claims. Hopefully for once the Jacksons are going to prove something instead of running there mouths for money. Of they have jack shit MJ is going to be trashed so more. I know we have to stand strong but it's hard to justify abuse over and over to people. I for one am on MJs side til the end but this is crazy. We need some kind of movement by the fans and maybe try to get spike Lee involved for support. Lawyers can do a lot but in this case we are going to need more I'm afraid.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

THUS FAR, it would appear that Wade's "I'm breaking my silence" tour has basically hit a silent note.

I say THUS FAR, because you never know what tomorrow will bring. But so far this story is not a blaze of fire, as I'm sure he was hoping for, in my opinion

On my way to work today I stopped at the newsstand and checked out both the New York Daily News and the New York Post (a tabloid that never turns it's back on a negative MJ related story) and there wasn't a peep in either paper.

P.S. Can somebody confirm for me that Wade in fact took part in the MTV Tribute, wherein he was part of the SCREAM performance right along with Janet. If I find the need to comment on this story on any online news sites, I'd like to add that bit of information to my commentary. Thanks.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

innuendo141 said:
Wow I just woke up and checked sky news and RTE news and it hasn't even made a ripple here in Ireland. That being said, I know that it will be n he front of some tabloids, but thankfully I rarely go to the shop so it can't be shoved in my face.

Even so, I believe that people are seeing this for what it is. And I think he fact this clown has gone on TV to accuse Michael has gone against him. He's a grown adult who now can take esponsibiliy for every action he makes and the public can see that he has taken the wrong actions. As a victim, he has taken too long to come out and the claims are not credible. And as a liar, he's just a no good dirty rotten liar.

This will not be another 93/03 case for Michael, his family and us.
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I hope Wade talk to a tabloid. That will put a nail in his coffin for sure (his coffin is being nailed as we speak).
 
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Sorry for typo auto correct iPhone. I meant it to read more abuse claims not mine. Think about it what can we do? I have notice this board traffic is shrinking by the day since the wade has said his piece. **** Wade he's a punk.
 
Re: Wade Robson files claim of childhood sexual abuse against MJ-Estate

Pimboli said:
is it possible to hear his show online?
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You probably can see online. I am at workk so I can not listen online but I am listening to him on my radio.
 
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