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[Victory22]

Murray would have been put in financial prison for the rest of his miserable life if the Jackson’s had sued.

 

[Aquarius]

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I don't understand,if Jermaine & his family say the AEG trial was not about money why are they thinking about appealing? But I understand why he's pissed. He's pissed that Conrad might make big money out of Michael. And he's pissed they lost the billions they were dreaming about.

 

[twinklEE]

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Murray would go free this month regardless, the time served has nothign to do with the Jackson's. They didn't even need to sue- They were offered restitution by the court and turned in down. Even if they did sue him it would have nothing to do with his jail time. That is from the criminal court not civil suites.

No it wouldn't have, but he wouldn't be able to become a millionaire, his odds of profiting of Michael's death would have been restricted, but thanks to Jermaine, his brother's and sister's and their mama Katherine, Murray will be able to live the life of the rich and famous despite of killing Michael Jackson. That's forever going to be on the Jackson family no if's and but's about it, period. And no amount of fake crocodile tears of any family member can change this very fact, thanks to their greed Murray is being rewarded for his actions.

 

[qbee]

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^^ I wasn't debating the fact they have allowed Murray to profit off Michael's death by rejecting the restitution offered them, just the misinformation posted that Jacksons could some how extend Murrays time in jail by suing him.

 

[Tygger]

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Select Jacksons are eligible to sue the doctor civilly if they so choose.

Question please: if Michael's parents and children did indeed choose restitution, why would those fans, who may choose to support the doctor financially via a book release or such, do so if it means those monies would go directly to the so-called "greedy" Jacksons that they may have a distaste for?

 

[Victory22]

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I don't think there are many here who will ever buy a book or anything else Murray puts out but you can be sure there are many haters and others who will.

 

[NeeChee]

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Exactly, and we can see by the articles and other snippets already that the press will be courting Murray. He will get his side of things across by using his charm (yes, he had charm - it worked on Michael!), and just like with the Wade case, Michael is not here to defend himself. The headline-scanning general public will again be wooed by the mouth that does the most talking.
Damn, I wish Michael would just rise up to make a couple of statements! Grrrrrr (*then cry)

 

[Tygger]

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I don't think there are many here who will ever buy a book or anything else Murray puts out but you can be sure there are many haters and others who will.

I agree fans united can stop the doctor from any financial gain from his fatal crime.

What is confusing is this: if Michael's parents and his children received restitution and the doctor seeks to gain financially from his fatal crime, would the so-called "greedy" family not profit? Why would some fans, who have a distaste for the Jacksons, want them to profit from the doctor's fatal crime?

 

[soulmum]

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I agree fans united can stop the doctor from any financial gain from his fatal crime.

What is confusing is this: if Michael's parents and his children received restitution and the doctor seeks to gain financially from his fatal crime, would the so-called "greedy" family not profit? Why would some fans, who have a distaste for the Jacksons, want them to profit from the doctor's fatal crime?

IMO I'd be delighted if the Jacksons sued and won big time from Murray simply because this is the man who, through his negligence, took away probably the most loved man away from us. It would also prevent Murray from earning big bucks from a heinous crime. I don't care who would profit only that Murray would forever suffer financially.

 

[LastTear]

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Select Jacksons are eligible to sue the doctor civilly if they so choose.

Question please: if Michael's parents and children did indeed choose restitution, why would those fans, who may choose to support the doctor financially via a book release or such, do so if it means those monies would go directly to the so-called "greedy" Jacksons that they may have a distaste for?

I agree fans united can stop the doctor from any financial gain from his fatal crime.

What is confusing is this: if Michael's parents and his children received restitution and the doctor seeks to gain financially from his fatal crime, would the so-called "greedy" family not profit? Why would some fans, who have a distaste for the Jacksons, want them to profit from the doctor's fatal crime?

If select Jacksons can sue, and if they want justice then why don't they?

To clear up your confusion, I would prefer Michaels Mother and children to profit rather than Murray, but with restitution there is more chance that Murray wouldn't bother with releases if there is nothing in it for him.

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Note how Jermaine believes the jury were paid off - strong charges.

 

[Bubs]

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The video wasn't posted so here is the link to it;
http://www.tmz.com/2013/10/13/jerma...g-michael-jackson-death/#comments-fullwrapper

Its a bit hilarious that Jermaine Jackson says that they hurt because CM walking free this month and they want everybody to know it. Yeah, we know it, they hurt some much that they didn't bother taking restitution from CM.

Jermaine is going to hurt even more when CM start driving around with better and more expensive Ferrari than his, which he paid with the money from "coming out of jail" excusive interviews to media.

 

[Kingofpop4ever3000]

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IMO I'd be delighted if the Jacksons sued and won big time from Murray simply because this is the man who, through his negligence, took away probably the most loved man away from us. It would also prevent Murray from earning big bucks from a heinous crime. I don't care who would profit only that Murray would forever suffer financially.

Exactly. I would love for the Jacksons to be able to sue over any profit that Murray makes off of Michael after his release. But really, why would they want to go after Murray's money now if they had a chance for restitution before and they said "no" to that? I just don't believe them anymore.

 

[Bubs]

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Exactly. I would love for the Jacksons to be able to sue over any profit that Murray makes off of Michael after his release. But really, why would they want to go after his money now if they had a chance for restitution before and they said "no" to that? I just don't believe them anymore.

The time limit for medical malpractice lawsuit has passed 2 years ago, they cannot bring criminal lawsuit against him as there were a criminal case already, so they basically f....ed up. They are going to be even more f...ed up when CM sells his stories what Michael told him about his family. It doesn't matter whether those stories are made up or not, tabloids will salivate to get a dirt on them. This is the fight Jackson's has to fight themselves as they allowed it to happen.
What goes around comes around.

 

[LastTear]

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The time limit for medical malpractice lawsuit has passed 2 years ago, they cannot bring criminal lawsuit against him as there were a criminal case already, so they basically f....ed up. They are going to be even more f...ed up when CM sells his stories what Michael told him about his family. It doesn't matter whether those stories are made up or not, tabloids will salivate to get a dirt on them. This is the fight Jackson's has to fight themselves as they allowed it to happen.
What goes around comes around.

I just don't think it's going to bother the Jacksons that much, making money off Michael is just what people (including the Jacksons) do, they understand it, plus don't forget Murray has children to feed.

 

[Bubs]

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^^ Jermaine has kids to feed too.

CM already said in one of his interviews what MJ said about his family, and he is going to come out with loads of stuff what Mike might or might not have said of his family. When CM start dishing the dirt on family members, such as MJ told him they are lazy, he didn't want them to be around him etc... that is going to hit a sore spot in the family.
They like to world to believe that Michael loved them dearly and could have done anything for them bla bla bla and they will defend themselves in those occasitions. Remeber granny-napping episode and how they defended themselves, especially siblings putting the blame on kids?

They are not interested to defend on Michael (other than few members taking twitter), but if there is something about themselves, they come out. One thing what gets under their skin is that if anyone says that MJ didn't want to be around them or MJ didn't like them.

 

[Victory22]

I agree fans united can stop the doctor from any financial gain from his fatal crime.

What is confusing is this: if Michael's parents and his children received restitution and the doctor seeks to gain financially from his fatal crime, would the so-called "greedy" family not profit? Why would some fans, who have a distaste for the Jacksons, want them to profit from the doctor's fatal crime?

To answer your question the Jackson’s perusing and preventing Murray from ever profiting from his crime would have put an entirely different face on the situation. They picked greed over protecting Michael. They left MJ exposed and his killer free to make money off his death. Their actions from the start calling Murray "Just the fall guy" has shown they didn't care about Michael being murdered and abused by Conrad. Instead of calling CM out they were on every talk show and in every tabloid lying about staging interventions, called Mike an addict on every TV station worldwide, hurting PP&B with granny nappings, and arraigning fake, tacky tributes concerts. The point I hope you see is that it's not about the Jackson's it's about doing the right thing to protect Michael and his children. If the Jackson's had done that their would be no problem.

 

[Bubs]

Jermaine Jackson Goes On Rant About Dr. Conrad Murray’s Reduced Sentence

October 13, 2013 | Posted by Taylor Gordon

Jermaine Jackson went on quite a rant after Dr. Conrad Murray’s prison sentence was cut in half, which will make him a free man later this month.
The news comes shortly after Michael Jackson’s mother, Katherine Jackson, lost her case against AEG in the wrongful death trial.

While it seemed as if Katherine was trying her best to stay positive about the court’s decision, Jermaine, one of Michael’s brothers, claims that this was the last blow the family needed.

Dr. Conrad Murray was arrested and sentenced to four years in prison for involuntary manslaughter after he provided Michael Jackson with a lethal amount of prescription drugs at the singer’s request. Despite the original sentence, Murray will be released from prison at the end of this month due to over crowding in the jail.
This means Murray’s original sentence has literally been cut in half and while some people still argue that Dr. Murray didn’t deserve to spend any time behind bars at all, Jermaine made it clear that he feels as if this is a major injustice to the Jackson family.

“It’s not about the money,” he said. “This guy is walking this month. He’s walking free this month.”
Jermaine then tried to avoid addressing rumors that Katherine Jackson was angry about him purchasing a new $160,000 Ferrari sports car when he’s behind on child support.
As the legal guardian of Michael’s children, Katherine has been concerned about financial issues and having Jermaine cash out on a new car has got to be a slap in the face.
“I can’t get a car,” he asked TMZ’s cameraman before he began stuttering and ultimately failed to complete whatever sentence he intended to say next.

He went on to say that his major concern right now is making sure the world understands how the Jackson family feels in light of these circumstances.
“So you kill Michael Jackson and you’re out in two years,” he said of Murray. “That sucks. We hurt. We still hurt. We hurt, really. We hurt. We’re very strong people, but we’re humans.”
It’s understandable that the family is still hurting from Michael’s death, but there actually aren’t too many people who support the idea that Murray should be held fully responsible for the tragedy that robbed the world of one of the greatest music icons. In fact, there are far more critics who believe some members of the Jackson family are only concerned with monetizing their relative’s death instead of allowing M.J. to truly rest in peace.

http://atlantablackstar.com/2013/10...goes-rant-dr-conrad-murrays-reduced-sentence/

 

[Bubs]

“So you kill Michael Jackson and you’re out in two years,” he said of Murray. “That sucks. We hurt. We still hurt. We hurt, really. We hurt. We’re very strong people, but we’re humans.”

Jermaine makes me sick

 

[Big Apple2]

He went on to say that his major concern right now is making sure the world understands how the Jackson family feels in light of these circumstances.
“So you kill Michael Jackson and you’re out in two years,” he said of Murray. “That sucks. We hurt. We still hurt. We hurt, really. We hurt. We’re very strong people, but we’re humans.”

They hurt. Now that's rich!

They had the opportunity to HURT Murray in return. They had the opportunity to make Murray's life a living hell on earth, but they decided to go after the deep pockets instead. Now they are left with NOTHIN!

But all is not lost. I mean, Mother's REQUEST that Murray be able to financially support his children has been granted, i.e. NO RESTITUTION!

 

[Bubs]

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They hurt. Now that's rich!

They had the opportunity to HURT Murray in return. They had the opportunity to make Murray's life a living hell on earth, but they decided to go after the deep pockets instead. Now they are left with NOTHIN!

But all is not lost. I mean, Mother's REQUEST that Murray be able to financially support his children has been granted, i.e. NO RESTITUTION!

I agree, they had a chance to hit CM where it hurt the most, to his wallet. Without money, he couldn't have had flashy car, go to strip bars which he so loves to visit, have several mistresses going at the same time. KJ thinks his money goes to child support, she should know by now, like her own cubs are not using money towards child support, so what makes her think CM pays anything either? Her attorneys dug out the information of CM being behind child support and she is well aware of that CM from the same patch as her own uselss cubs, so waiving restitution because she wants his money to go to his chilren bull s..t.

11/29/2011 she said 4 years is not enough after CM sentencing.

 

[Big Apple2]

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KJ thinks his money goes to child support, she should know by now, like her own cubs are not using money towards child support, so what makes her think CM pays anything either?

And the funny thing is, I don't know about Murray's OTHER children, but I bet, the one he had with the "instrument" will benefit from any rewards Murray reaps after he is released from prison.

He's gonna come out of jail, and prance around with the "instrument" and their child together, acting like they just won the lottery.

I wouldn't be surprised if it has ALREADY be arranged ($$$$$$$$$) that the "instrument" is at the jail gates, ready to jump into Murray's arms the second he's released, ala Bobby Brown and Whitney.

Maybe they will even get a SPREAD in one of the tabloid magazines, showcasing "Murray's Life After Two-Years In Jail." I'm sure the "instrument" would just LOVE that.

 

[Bubs]

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I'm sure they have already agreed for exclusive interview with some tabloid.

He already invited himself to 1 tv show when he gets out (it was meantioned in 1 thread).

 

[serendipity]

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I don't understand,if Jermaine & his family say the AEG trial was not about money why are they thinking about appealing?

Exactly. Why appeal if it wasn't for money?

Select Jacksons are eligible to sue the doctor civilly if they so choose.

We are talking about the adult Jacksons, who love to claim they care about "justice" and nothing else. If that's the case why didn't they accept restitution?

 

[#MJforever57]

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No it wouldn't have, but he wouldn't be able to become a millionaire, his odds of profiting of Michael's death would have been restricted, but thanks to Jermaine, his brother's and sister's and their mama Katherine, Murray will be able to live the life of the rich and famous despite of killing Michael Jackson. That's forever going to be on the Jackson family no if's and but's about it, period. And no amount of fake crocodile tears of any family member can change this very fact, thanks to their greed Murray is being rewarded for his actions.

I agree with you on this the Jacksons their let Murray get away their have nobody to blame but themselves but you know what Murray could have gotting more then four years imo if the LAPD did their job.

The day Michael die no one should have been allow in the house the way Michael die it was not of natual cause there was questions surronding his death and imo the LAPD should have not let anybody enter. There could have been evidences there that could have change the way Murray trial was because what Murray was doing was not to be done in a home setting and it cause the death of Michael Jackson but with ppls be in the house any evidences that was there was gone. So the State only had what their can work with that why Murray only got 4yrs he could have gotting more.


Murray could have been charge with the murder of Michael Jackson that imo.

Now Murray will be a free man and imo he got away with murder.

 

[#MJforever57]

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I don't think the Jacksons need to appeal this again let it go.

Imo Katherine need to just take care of Michael's kids she is set for life Michael is taking care of her she has nothing to worry about. It is time to let go how will Katherine every heal if she keep going on with this it is not health it is time to move on. She need to stop letting Jermaine and Randy tell her what to do. Like Parnish said it is not about the money then if that is true then let it go.

 

[Tygger]

Thank you for the responses.

The only Jacksons that could have received restitution would have been Michael’s parents and his children. Restitution was rejected. It is one’s personal judgment to view that as a correct or incorrect choice. I believe I am fortunate in that I did not have to make that decision as I did not lose a son so I do not pass judgment. I do not want to be in that position so I can only give compassion. That is my personal choice.

I personally find it conflicting that monies the doctor could generate from Michael’s passing would be acceptable to go to Michael’s parents and his children but, the monies AEG generated from Michael’s passing were not acceptable to go to Michael’s mother and his children via the civil trial by some.

Fans can successfully hinder the doctor from financially benefiting from his fatal crime. I believe it is unfortunate that some fans will believe anything this doctor who killed Michael says so long as it is a negative word about Michael's family. I believe not one word this killer says should be acceptable to a Michael Jackson fan. Nothing he says is acceptable or believable for me; that is my choice.

Exactly. Why appeal if it wasn't for money?

Truth and justice. The plaintiffs were successful in proving AEG hired the doctor. We shall see if the plaintiffs will appeal and prove once again AEG was negligent in that hiring. The world did not see AEG as not liable; only ten jurors.

We are talking about the adult Jacksons, who love to claim they care about "justice" and nothing else. If that's the case why didn't they accept restitution?

Michael's parents are the only adults who could have sought restitution.

Now Murray will be a free man and imo he got away with murder.

Agreed.

This means Murray’s original sentence has literally been cut in half and while some people still argue that Dr. Murray didn’t deserve to spend any time behind bars at all, Jermaine made it clear that he feels as if this is a major injustice to the Jackson family.

It’s understandable that the family is still hurting from Michael’s death, but there actually aren’t too many people who support the idea that Murray should be held fully responsible for the tragedy that robbed the world of one of the greatest music icons.

Exactly; those people preferred the doctor be charged with malpractice or Michael was 100% responsible for his own passing.

 

[serendipity]

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Tygger, a lot of fans strongly believe that any money Katherine gets would go to other Jacksons. So in that respect it's not that hard to see why many didn't want her to get anything from AEG. And you can't really compare what Murray may generate to the billions they were asking and hoping to get from AEG.

I wouldn't mind Katherine/her cubs getting some money from MJ's actual killer and not giving him incentive to slander him and possibly stopping future books. But I certainly don't want her adult children to get hundreds of millions from AEG, especially when I don't think they are to blame for MJ's death AND in the process letting his actual killer out there to slander him without any punishment whatsoever.

 

[Tygger]

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Serendipity, I appreciate your response. The concept is conflicting for me, however, that is neither here nor there.

The doctor has almost completed half of his two year sentence. That time served is his legal punishment.

It is very possible to compare the monies the doctor may generate to the monies AEG generated after Michael's passing.

I do not believe any fan knows what Katherine or Michael's children would have done with their portion of the damage payout had they been successful with the civil trial. We do not know if any of them thought that far into the future.

 

[serendipity]

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Murray's legal punishment didn't have to end with his time served. Katherine had the chance to punish him further (and possibly even more) by accepting restitution and in the proccess a possibility to prevent future slandering of her son, but she chose to go after AEG's money instead. Not that is conflicting to me considering her claims of wanting justice and not money.

I personally can't compare the money Murray may generate to what they were asking from AEG, which was in the billions (unless you think Murray will be making billions, which is not realistic)

I also think it's pretty safe to guess what Katherine would've done with her portion of damages - what she's always done with money from MJ, which is take care of her adult children and their children.

 

[Tygger]

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Serendipity I understand your point of view, I simply disagree.

The comparison between the monies the doctor may generate (which can be hindered) and the monies AEG generated is not in amounts. They are comparable in the reason for the generation; Michael's passing. Apologies if I was unclear before.