Is this the new direction for Michael Jacksons Image?

[HIStory]

There are more Zappa fans than you realize.

Not denying that he's not as popular as Michael Jackson, but when John Lennon died, they released demos, as is.

Well, I was just looking at the chart run of those albums and I saw that most did not chart. Lennon releases chart, but not too high: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Lennon_discography

I'm not sure if MJ fans would be content with that. There was a lot of complaining that Bad 25 wasn't as successful as some fans expected.

 

[Tony R]

I needed to write this down and get some feedback as its quite upsetting for me and I know alot of other fans I have spoken too in the last week, primarily the last day or so.

Whats happening to Michael Jackson, his art and image.

Xscape - Worldwide smash, Number 1, fantastic, Michael is back on top again, but what was the cost, every instance they have removed Michael and replaced him with a stylized version or "their" view of how Michael should look and sound. Heres how............

The Album

Xscape isn't a Michael Jackson album, well not the standard edition at least. Everything Michael except his voice was removed from that album, years of work tapes, writings and guidelines were ignored in favour of new "comtemporized" production, Yes you can say there are some MJ influenced sounds on there, but it isn't really Michael, its okay to "comtemporize" but Michael was about moving forwards, always looking to the next big thing, the newest sounds, but these sounds aint new, they primarily come from 80's synths and drum sounds, the same sounds Michael DIDN'T use during those era's. What we have in Xscape is the use of Michael Jackson to sell a non-Michael Jackson album, I hope you understand me there.

The Demo's

We know some of the demos, are NOT the way Michael left them, parts have been removed and they have not been mastered very well, levels all over the place and vocals buried deep, they certainly had a lot less attention put to them than the other half of the album, its a shame as this IS Michael Jackson, you might not like the compositions, but its truly him 100%. Another example of how poorly these were handled is "Chicago" the backing track is in Mono, it wasn't recorded like this, wasn't mixed like this. The vocals are not Mono they pan. This is just my opinion but I really have a gut feeling after listening to these demos for quite some time that they were purposely mixed badly to make the new versions sound more brilliant.

The Cover and Artwork

Cone............well covering up half Michaels face isn't a great start in showing off Michael's image, secondly the same source image was used again but with a "newsprint" filter applied to it, are there any real pictures of Michael used in Xscape? I have not seen any, only Sillouettes and Stylized photoshops.

The DVD

This was the opportunity to show Michael creating these songs, the studio footage, "here he is doing what he does best". Instead we have what can only be described as propaganda for how better the new versions are compared to the demos, one instance whilst playing the "Blue Gangster" demo, LA Reid and Timbaland have a giggle follwed by Timbalands "This one don't sound as bad as the rest of them". Instead of showing Michael they all speak of how THEY remembered Michael or how THEY felt he was in studio with them.

The Hologram

First off, lets get the obvious stuff out the way. The CGI was poor, looked almost a decade old. The Dancer was an Impersonator and not a great one at that. Now today we can recreate Michaels movements almost flawlessly, 2d Tracking is coming on good but with care and attention hand animating over source footage is just as good. What we got was their representation of Michael, wearing not his own clothes but those they wanted him to wear, from an era they wanted him from, dancing how they thought he would. The Technology for this, was just the same as Tupacs "Hologram" infact it was less impressive as there was no real people on stage as far as I can see, what we got was 2d projection of an Impersonator dancing to Michael Jackson, everything on that stage (Minus the band up top of stage) was pre-rendered. What we got was a music video projected onto a screen, not a "hologram", no "first ever" no "lightyears ahead of its time". The idea was great, but it was possible for them to do it better.


People say I and others complain alot, but we are just trying to find Michael Jackson in all this. LA Reid speaks of this Bieber duet, he has and is willing to water down MJ to the lowest levels not thinking about us, or anyone else except the dollar signs, its simple to me this whole project used Michaels voice and their view of his image as a "whore" to push this album and it pains me to see how much it worked. I love Michael Jackson and I wanted so much more of him on this album and they had the tools to do that, sadly from now on because this album is a smash, they will do it again, the next hot producer on the next album, Michaels own work we waited for so long to be released pushed to the back.

So is it worth losing Michael to have him number one for a week.......a few singles and then forgot about until the time comes again for the next album? I am finding it hard to see any other way, your thoughts?
:blush:

Great, eloquent post. And a perfect example of how someone can write something that I don't agree with but still love reading.

Regarding the cover, you have still used a version in your signature so can't be too bad! Also since Bad there has not been a real MJ album cover that did use a proper image. Dangerous was eyes only, HIStory a statue and Invincible was a graphic representation. Without starting an argument, Michael didn't look that way at the time.

All your other points are valid, but we have two choices here.

Michael Jackson (the artist) ended on June 25th 2009 and we should only embrace the legacy & HIStorical music.

Or we hold on to new ways of keeping him alive & introducing him to new generations, just like they have with The Beatles & Elvis.

Both arguments are valid. For me as long as the second way is done tastefully with a great end result then I am for it.

I hated most of 'Michael' but loved what it brought me for 'Much Too Soon' and 'Behind The Mask' but I adore Xscape and not since HIStory have I had a complete MJ album on repeat so often. So for me, it's been worth it.

I imagine when Elvis' A Little Less Conversation remix with JXL came out a few years ago, Elvis enthusiasts must have gone crazy mad, just as I would have if someone released a remix of Earth Song or Who Is It, but look what it did for him.

It's all on the end result. I have tracks on Xscape that I adore & for that I'm greatful.

Maybe that's selfish...but then I recall Michael always said he wanted to be remembered, and projects like this do that. I'm not saying it's always worth it, but when done well like Xscape..then I feel it is.

 

[JEMFTV]

You can clearly hear that they removed/muted instruments on the "Original" on Xscape.

Yes, that's right, IMO i think it makes the song sounding slower, and BTW i also pointed that thing out, but then someone said:
"that's the way MJ left it",
i don't believe that...

 

[HIStoric]

I don't think they've actually specified which versions of the demos they used. I think it's a mixture of both 'most recent Michael heard' and old demos.

 

[serendipity]

Then some fans would say that they are lazy.

I don’t understand why those mixes bothers anyone. They are something extra to have, why not?

I don't get it either. MJ allowed his biggest most iconic classics to be butchered on Thriller25 by the likes of Fergie, Akon and will.i.am and they didn't just remix them, but actually made duets....... Yet you have folks now getting their panties in a twist over some very respectfully done mixes by some of the most respected popular producers where MJ's voice is front and center.

Sorry but to me that's beyond nitpicking, that's people trying hard to find something to complain about. Especially when they are given the demos MJ left.

 

[ShipOfFools]

I don't get it either. MJ allowed his biggest most iconic classics to be butchered on Thriller25 by the likes of Fergie, Akon and will.i.am and they didn't just remix them, but actually made duets....... Yet you have folks now getting their panties in a twist over some very respectfully done mixes by some of the most respected popular producers where MJ's voice is front and center.

Sorry but to me that's beyond nitpicking, that's people trying hard to find something to complain about. Especially when they are given the demos MJ left.

I agree. I hated Thriller 25 for that very reason.

Xscape is a step in the right direction.

 

[WhoIsIt89]

I don't think any of those demos are the "way Michael last left them", personally speaking.

 

[lil'bit]

The set theme for the BBMA ‘virtual Michael’ looked like a mash-up of the Dangerous cover, Cirque du Soleil and ‘Remember the Time’ short film – nothing suggestive of Xscape. If they had stayed with the Xscape theme and presented a futuristic Michael like the album cover – it would’ve matched perfectly with the backup dancers; and the cone/collar shielding his mouth would’ve solved the lip-syncing problem, too. The female ‘slave’ would be similarly attired, dragging chains on her feet. . . If they were going to go bold and new, they should be consistent. There would be less nit-picking of wardrobe since it would be completely new, reinvented.

Having said that, I’m still not completely at ease with all this; torn between wanting a commercial success and preserving his original intent with unreleased work. We sort of got both with the album though, didn’t we, with the original demos. I just worry that John Branca, the top Estate guy who is a lawyer after all, is having to make decisions regarding artistic integrity. He means well but he’s not an artist. He has to depend on hired creative people who may have their own agenda; promoting their own brand, even while helping to bring MJ to the new generation. Where can we find that one person who knows Michael’s tastes and who has no agenda other than to preserve and protect both his image? Impossible. And oh am just rambling.

 

[myosotis]

Producers from the 10's
There were songs from the 00's
A CGI Michael from the 90's
Sounds of the 80s mixed with......
Sounds of the 70s
Skipped the 60s
An Illusion from the 50s...................1650s that is, Peppers Ghost was first used in 1658 xD

Contemporize

Just for fun, I had to add something from the 60's for you. These are photos from Harpers Bazaar, April 1965. Jean Shrimpton and Paul McCartney in NASA space suits..although here the high collar wasn't pulled over McCartney's face. (Both photos are by Richard Avedon)

http://[URL=https://imageshack.com/i/n9i0e0j][/URL]

 

[Condor9333]

I think they could make Mj hologram using his pictures or scans fro Dangerous/History era.
That would be way coller.
But this is fine ,too.Not Best but fine. After all Mike aint here with us.

 

[Birchey]

Just for fun, I had to add something from the 60's for you. These are photos from Harpers Bazaar, April 1965. Jean Shrimpton and Paul McCartney in space suits..although here the high collar wasn't pulled over McCartney's face. (Both photos are by Richard Avedon)

Ha ha, nice..........."the circle is complete"

 

[SoCav]

*long-*ss post alert*
It's nice to see this being discussed calmly and rationally, despite the fact that there are pretty big differences in opinions, which we all feel strongly about. I agree with a lot of what you wrote Birchey. I won't get into the hologram here, but my thoughts on the current direction for his music:

I agree that the approach that was taken for the Xscape album basically reduces Michael to nothing more than a singer. His songwriting and hands-on production skills were mostly disregarded. But the latter were just as big of a part of his music as his vocals. It saddens me a bit that some fans feel something 'is Michael' as long as it has his voice on it (some people here on the board explicitly said this). Remember that, as a songwriter, Michael said he would hear entire compositions in his head. The vocal melody was just one of the many parts. A bassline was not just something he needed to come up with to complement his vocals, it was an integral part of the composition he envisioned (and sometimes even the source, think of Billie Jean for which the bassline was the first thing that came to him). I know, of course, that Michael was not the head writer of the majority of the songs on Xscape. But the above illustrates how he thought about music. Plus, we know how involved he was with every aspect of his work, even when other songwriters brought in tracks. He was not some singer who walked into a studio, laid down some vocals and left while a couple of producers created everything else around it. There's a reason why his music sounded so personal. Because it was!

When LA Reid first spoke about contemporizing, I also thought he meant updating the production and adding elements where necessary to present a completed version of the ideas Michael left behind. Instead, we got producers building their own instrumentals around Michael's vocals, often even without any interest in hearing the ideas he left behind. That'd be fine if this was a remix album, but they said their goal was to present their vision of how MJ would have released this. Their actions clearly do not match this, unless they think MJ was just a singer and nothing else. Furthermore, I find it incomprehensible that these people seem to think that the musical ideas of one of the greatest artists of all time are less interesting to the general public than Timbaland's/Stargate's/etc. And IF they are, is it really worth it to strip layers of Michael from his own music for a #1 hit then? For me, the answer is absolutely not.

Some will say: we got the demos as well, so what's the problem with the remixes? Yes, it is definitely a gigantic step forward that the demos were released as well this time. And to be clear, it is not these remixes itself that I have a problem with, but the fact that they are now presented to the world as Michael Jackson's new album. If this was presented at a smaller scale as a tribute or remix album, like Immortal, I would be fine with it. Of course I know that in interviews and the liner notes LA Reid and co. are honest about this being their vision of what MJ would have wanted, not necessarily his. But a. most people will not read these interviews and liner notes, and b. even if they do, that does not change the fact that these great songs are being presented to the world as remixes that have very little to do with Michael. And that's a shame, imo.

Other fans say that it's good that the songs were remixed because they will more easily appeal to a new generation, who will as a result then check out Michael's work. Perhaps, but at the same time, let's say a kid digs the remixes on Xscape and decides to listen to some of MJ's albums after that. What will that kid find? Totally different sounding music than the songs that attracted him/her in the first place. Secondly, we're dealing with Michael Jackson here. The new generation might not know much about him, but it's not like they need to be introduced to someone they never heard about. Everybody knows a track like Billie Jean. And thirdly, I really don't think remixes are the only way or even the best way to attract new fans. Those who will be interested in MJ beyond a fun tune to bop their head to on a Saturday night in the club, will find him through other means. I listen to countless artists that passed away before I was born. And I certainly did not get interested in them through remixes. Re-releases of their old classics, outtakes, great documentaries and just my own interest is what got me to seek them out.

In short: I'm also missing Michael in a lot of this. I totally get where you, Wildstyle and respect77, are coming from when you say there should be more of a balance between mainstream releases and releases that celebrate MJ the artist. However, I don't think the two need to be mutually exclusive. Of course, some things are only interesting for fans. But I really do think it is possible to achieve a better balance within one and the same project as well.

 

[ShipOfFools]

^ That's true, but at the same time, the producers didn't deviate too much from the demos. The Tricky Stewart remix of Slave is more of a deviation than any of the final cuts.

I only have a problem with it if they didn't release the originals. But they did, so what's the problem? Just buy the Deluxe, get the album the way Michael left it, and listen to that. I'd actually be happy if they released a standalone CD for that album, the untouched demos, but somehow I don't think Sony will go for that.

'Michael' was more of a ripoff, and I got excited about that, so I don't see the big deal. We will never have Michael finishing the songs himself, so I'm just going to get excited over any new thing we have from his estate.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

So, they changed the demos? I thought the xscape demo sounded a bit different than the leaked version, probably just me though. I don't understand why they'd mess with the demos :/

 

[SoCav]

^ That's true, but at the same time, the producers didn't deviate too much from the demos. The Tricky Stewart remix of Slave is more of a deviation than any of the final cuts.

I think they did. I mean, the tracks they created around the acapella have very little in common with the demos musically. And no wonder, given that the producers even indicated themselves that they did not listen to the demos. Tricky's STTR mix was similar in that regard. I think an example of a 'finished' version that did try to stay faithful to the original was the 2010 mix of DYKWYCA.

I only have a problem with it if they didn't release the originals. But they did, so what's the problem? Just buy the Deluxe, get the album the way Michael left it, and listen to that. I'd actually be happy if they released a standalone CD for that album, the untouched demos, but somehow I don't think Sony will go for that.

Like I said, I do think it's a great improvement that the demos were included this time. But it's a little extra thrown in for the fans. The general public will likely not hear them, they will hear the remixed versions (although it is definitely encouraging to hear that the Deluxe edition is outselling the Standard Edition - both because that means more authentic Michael is being heard, and because it goes to show that the public at large IS interested in hearing MJ the artist). My point is that I feel the marketed products should not be stripped of Michael. They should strive to present his artistry and work on there as much as possible, within the constraints of them working with unfinished material. Xscape, marketing wise, is by far the biggest project they have undertaken thus far. But all the promotion is basically spent on 9 remixes that Michael had nothing to do with.

'Michael' was more of a ripoff, and I got excited about that, so I don't see the big deal. We will never have Michael finishing the songs himself, so I'm just going to get excited over any new thing we have from his estate.

Firstly, don't get me wrong, I definitely did get excited about the new demos we got on Xscape. Secondly, you're right, 'Michael' was absolutely more of a ripoff. Any album that includes fake tracks is of course going to be worse. The fact that they pretended that MJ left a road map that pointed to this album was also very annoying, and of course Xscape wins out as well because the original demos were included. But one aspect I did prefer about Michael, compared to Xscape, was the fact that the producers at least attempted to stay somehwat close to Michael's vision. Some did take liberties they should not have, like Teddy on Hollywood Tonight and Lenny Kravitz on Another Day, but even those songs still had more to do with MJ's ideas for those tracks (musically) than any of the remixes on Xscape.

I really think a project for which a. the people who worked with Michael come in to finish the specific songs they collaborated on, b. with the explicit goal of trying to complete the tracks while staying faithful as much as possible to Michael's ideas, c. marketed honestly for what it is ("an attempt to finish ideas Michael worked on but never completed in a way that he might have by the people who worked with him"), d. released along with the original demos and a documentary that focuses on Michael's ideas for those songs rather than the greatness of the producers that came in, would already really be much more successful at achieving that balance between mainstream appeal and preserving MJ's artistic integrity. If they want to release remixes that are completely different from the originals as well, that can of course always be done in addition (b-sides, mixes aimed at the clubs, etc), as has always been done.

 

[XgenDaNcEs]

If any one here played MJ The Experience on Wii or PS3, i think you'll agree with me when i say that the movements there looked way more like MJ than the hologram. I know the dance steps repeated and werent true to the original choreography but the WAY he moved in that game felt and looked like Michael. And this was all a few a years ago for low end video game consoles, lol i dont understand why they couldnt make an animation like that (or better) for the hologram with todays new tech! The hologram looks like a MJ impersonator straight out of a green screen, i doubt any of it was computerized honestly. Not that it was bad but knowing what they could have done kinda disappoints, especially if this is the last hologram of Michael :/

 

[h0opman31]

Birchey, are you influenced by the Album cover concept ? Since you have that MJ pic as your avatar and signature.

 

[Birchey]

Birchey, are you influenced by the Album cover concept ? Since you have that MJ pic as your avatar and signature.

No, I recreated the picture by photoshopping the 2 halves of it we had and fixing up alot of "artistic" tears in the picture, before they released the one on the Deluxe edition poster. I wanted the REAL picture, hence I tried to recreate it in my Avatar by coloring. I love the picture, am still waiting for the real unedited shot

 

[kreen]

I needed to write this down and get some feedback as its quite upsetting for me and I know alot of other fans I have spoken too in the last week, primarily the last day or so.

Whats happening to Michael Jackson, his art and image.

Xscape - Worldwide smash, Number 1, fantastic, Michael is back on top again, but what was the cost, every instance they have removed Michael and replaced him with a stylized version or "their" view of how Michael should look and sound. Heres how............

The Album

Xscape isn't a Michael Jackson album, well not the standard edition at least. Everything Michael except his voice was removed from that album, years of work tapes, writings and guidelines were ignored in favour of new "comtemporized" production, Yes you can say there are some MJ influenced sounds on there, but it isn't really Michael, its okay to "comtemporize" but Michael was about moving forwards, always looking to the next big thing, the newest sounds, but these sounds aint new, they primarily come from 80's synths and drum sounds, the same sounds Michael DIDN'T use during those era's. What we have in Xscape is the use of Michael Jackson to sell a non-Michael Jackson album, I hope you understand me there.

The Demo's

We know some of the demos, are NOT the way Michael left them, parts have been removed and they have not been mastered very well, levels all over the place and vocals buried deep, they certainly had a lot less attention put to them than the other half of the album, its a shame as this IS Michael Jackson, you might not like the compositions, but its truly him 100%. Another example of how poorly these were handled is "Chicago" the backing track is in Mono, it wasn't recorded like this, wasn't mixed like this. The vocals are not Mono they pan. This is just my opinion but I really have a gut feeling after listening to these demos for quite some time that they were purposely mixed badly to make the new versions sound more brilliant.

The Cover and Artwork

Cone............well covering up half Michaels face isn't a great start in showing off Michael's image, secondly the same source image was used again but with a "newsprint" filter applied to it, are there any real pictures of Michael used in Xscape? I have not seen any, only Sillouettes and Stylized photoshops.

The DVD

This was the opportunity to show Michael creating these songs, the studio footage, "here he is doing what he does best". Instead we have what can only be described as propaganda for how better the new versions are compared to the demos, one instance whilst playing the "Blue Gangster" demo, LA Reid and Timbaland have a giggle follwed by Timbalands "This one don't sound as bad as the rest of them". Instead of showing Michael they all speak of how THEY remembered Michael or how THEY felt he was in studio with them.

The Hologram

First off, lets get the obvious stuff out the way. The CGI was poor, looked almost a decade old. The Dancer was an Impersonator and not a great one at that. Now today we can recreate Michaels movements almost flawlessly, 2d Tracking is coming on good but with care and attention hand animating over source footage is just as good. What we got was their representation of Michael, wearing not his own clothes but those they wanted him to wear, from an era they wanted him from, dancing how they thought he would. The Technology for this, was just the same as Tupacs "Hologram" infact it was less impressive as there was no real people on stage as far as I can see, what we got was 2d projection of an Impersonator dancing to Michael Jackson, everything on that stage (Minus the band up top of stage) was pre-rendered. What we got was a music video projected onto a screen, not a "hologram", no "first ever" no "lightyears ahead of its time". The idea was great, but it was possible for them to do it better.


People say I and others complain alot, but we are just trying to find Michael Jackson in all this. LA Reid speaks of this Bieber duet, he has and is willing to water down MJ to the lowest levels not thinking about us, or anyone else except the dollar signs, its simple to me this whole project used Michaels voice and their view of his image as a "whore" to push this album and it pains me to see how much it worked. I love Michael Jackson and I wanted so much more of him on this album and they had the tools to do that, sadly from now on because this album is a smash, they will do it again, the next hot producer on the next album, Michaels own work we waited for so long to be released pushed to the back.

So is it worth losing Michael to have him number one for a week.......a few singles and then forgot about until the time comes again for the next album? I am finding it hard to see any other way, your thoughts?
:blush:

If it can make you feel better, the album isn't really a "worldwide smash" : it's selling less than "Michael" in 2010.

 

[HIStory]

If it can make you feel better, the album isn't really a "worldwide smash" : it's selling less than "Michael" in 2010.

Just like everything is selling a lot less these days than in 2010. Totally different market. It's also a different time of the year. ("Michael" was on the Christmas market.) And the campaign for Xscape is not over yet. It just began.

 

[JustMe00]

^ That's true, but at the same time, the producers didn't deviate too much from the demos. The Tricky Stewart remix of Slave is more of a deviation than any of the final cuts.

I only have a problem with it if they didn't release the originals. But they did, so what's the problem? Just buy the Deluxe, get the album the way Michael left it, and listen to that. I'd actually be happy if they released a standalone CD for that album, the untouched demos, but somehow I don't think Sony will go for that.

'Michael' was more of a ripoff, and I got excited about that, so I don't see the big deal. We will never have Michael finishing the songs himself, so I'm just going to get excited over any new thing we have from his estate.

The only problem I have with this, is that they're presenting the remixed versions (on the standard edition) as the official, finished tracks, and you'd have to get the deluxe version to hear the real originals. The title track for example is amazing and sounds like Michael, but the remixed version on the regular version of Xscape sucks in my opinion. I'd be more than fine with it, if they had included both versions on the regular edition and put the "demo" versions first, then remixes.

I agree with you on "Michael", though. That album was a terrible mess.

 

[Allusio]

And this was all a few a years ago for low end video game consoles, lol

IMO you’ve answered your question by yourself … for low end video game consoles it was easier work to do.

 

[SmoothCriminal1995]

I definitely agree with you on some things Birchey.

I think they had a great chance with the documentary, show Michael at his best (Studio footage, rare audio clips, his handwritten notes), but no it was all about what the producers thought MJ might like, and them patting themselves on the back about how much better the new versions compared with the demos.

I feel the demos are poorly mastered, the vocals sound out of place and everything sounds off, I hope this is not on purpose.
For me some of the new versions are hit and miss, Loving You, LNFSG, Xscape I love, yet STTR never catches fire like it should and neither does DYKWYCA.

Also I find it frustrating we keep getting paintings as album covers, I don't like the cover. (I like the poster though) We should be getting rare pictures of Michael not a painting of a rare picture. They have so many from each period in his life, that's my opinion though.

Don't get me wrong I appreciate the effort, money and time spent on this album, but it worries me that this isn't a classic Michael Jackson sound, more a futuristic 2014/15 BOTD part 2. I'm fully behind the album though, I just hope we get a more Michael sounding album before the end of the contract.

 

[Albion]

I think Birchey certainly has a point. I am in two minds over this. On the one hand it is great that Michael is being shown in a positive light and the success of the album is proof positive that there is still a massive demand for him. However I am far more interested in the songs he wrote down on the list (I think found in his bedroom). I would happily forfeit the whole Xscape project including demos for 2 or 3 demos from that list. I can play all the new mixes off Xscape and it doesn't give me a fraction of the joy listening to DIG does. Would an album of demos sell. I doubt it. Is it something the Estate or sony would be interested in? I doubt that to. But I'd rather listen to a poor quality,half finished demo than watch a pretend Michael doing poor dance moves to music he had nothing to do with made by people he never met. All that said my 13 year old daughter loves all the new songs on Xscape and so do her friends. And she is playing her friends his old albums and creating a new generation of fans. My dilemma is do the ends justify the means?

 

[WhoIsIt89]

What exactly did Timbaland keep in STTR that was in Michael's original, in the new mix that makes it more true to Michael's version..Cause I don't hear it.

 

[Birchey]

So they confirmed they used an Impersonator, not a CGI model made from tracking an impersonator, but just video'd one. How the **** is this Michael Jackson? Or representing his magic, or blah blah whatever they are spewing for promotion? What the world watched was a video of Earnest Valentino dancing, IN THE FLESH!

 

[XgenDaNcEs]

IMO you’ve answered your question by yourself … for low end video game consoles it was easier work to do.

My point was if a tiny game had some nice animations then i expected the hologram to be even better, WAY better! They have the technology to do it so i how would it be HARDER to get a hologram to dance better than a video game character?!

 

[Allusio]

My point was if a tiny game had some nice animations then i expected the hologram to be even better, WAY better! They have the technology to do it so i how would it be HARDER to get a hologram to dance better than a video game character?!

First, that was not a hologram. Technology makes it look real (I’m not talking about face) but to recreate moves in certain mannerism that is the task.

Second, the more expensive the creation is, the more difficult it appears to be.

It is hard for me to believe that to create VMJ is easier than to create the game animation.

 

[JustMe00]

I'm somewhat confused. The still images I've seen posted by the estate look really good, almost like Michael. But the actual video of the performance looks nothing like that. I've watched it in HD on several different devices and it doesn't match up with the stills.

 

[Florin Daniel]

So they confirmed they used an Impersonator, not a CGI model made from tracking an impersonator, but just video'd one. How the **** is this Michael Jackson? Or representing his magic, or blah blah whatever they are spewing for promotion? What the world watched was a video of Earnest Valentino dancing, IN THE FLESH!

Where was that confirmed? They confirmed about Valentino too?