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WHAT??? Have they settled????
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WHAT??? Have they settled????
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Completely agree. I can understand people not wanting them to, but it hasn't gotten to that point yet and- god willing- may never get to that point. As of this point in time there is no reason to even think that the Estate would go that route.
Completely agree. I can understand people not wanting them to, but it hasn't gotten to that point yet and- god willing- may never get to that point. As of this point in time there is no reason to even think that the Estate would go that route.
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No,no,no. Are you not able to read the posts?
No,no,no. Are you not able to read the posts?
worth to read...
MJ Justice Project >>You have to understand that I met Michael during his lowest point in his life, I met him then he was facing charges that could have meant that he died in prison. And the charges were very disturbing. Being charged with child molestation is worse than being charged with murder. It's just a horrible, horrible allegation. (…
So I met Michael in his darkest hour and Michael was very suspicious of many people who had crossed his path.
He felt people were after his catalogue, he felt media wanted to make a fortune and watching him to be destroyed and brought to prison. He was suspicious of many people who crossed his path – I don't wanna give a bunch of names – but the names were very numerous. He didn't know who to trust, who to turn to, who was behind this. He was very worried that he thought Sony was behind, he thought the effort was to get his catalogue, he had trouble in trusting anyone.
In the middle of the trial he called Susan Yu, my law partner who was so important to this case … we couldn't have acquitted him without her incredible work – and he would call her in the middle of the night, and he would call me in the middle of the night, and he was crying and said, 'you guys are doing so well, please don't let them pay you off'. And I would say, Michael, what are you talking about?
He said, 'I know they gonna offer you millions, because they want me to go down and they see that you are doing a great job, that Susan Yu is doing a great job. And they gonna pay you off.' I said, 'Michael, nobody is paying me a dime, this is not the kind of person I am.' And I got the feeling he was so used to people betraying him, he was so used to hoping that someone was his friend and then suddenly they have their hand out, trying to get a project out of him...or trying to get money out of him. You know, loneliness unfortunately was a major issue of Michael – because with all that fame and talent and fortune and the properties came all that people who were guided by greed and selfishness.
And as I said before, Chris Tucker and Macaulay Culkin I will never forget. These were two young entertainer at the hight of their fame.. and they had people around them telling them 'don't get involved in that trial, don't help Michael Jackson, he's going down, your career is gonna be tarnished...' And they both said to me, separately from each other, 'whenever Michael needs us, we're gonna be there, we don't care what anybody advised us to do.' And I saw Manager, Lawyers, Agents, advising them not to get involved. And they didn't care what they said, they were gonna help Michael, they wanted the truth to come out.
But you know, you only find that when you're in trouble, who your friends really are. And Michael was frustrated about average people who were not there to help him. Liz Taylor was physically ill, she was always supportive but she was physically ill. Stevie Wonder was very supportive, he was ready to run right up. I didn't need him as a witness, because he hadn't been a witness to any of the actual actions involved in the trial as Macaulay Culkin and Chris Tucker had. <<
- Tom Mesereau, June 2014 (Blog Talk Radio)
MJ Justice Project >>You have to understand that I met Michael during his lowest point in his life, I met him then he was facing charges that could have meant that he died in prison. And the charges were very disturbing. Being charged with child molestation is worse than being charged with murder. It's just a horrible, horrible allegation. (…
So I met Michael in his darkest hour and Michael was very suspicious of many people who had crossed his path.He felt people were after his catalogue, he felt media wanted to make a fortune and watching him to be destroyed and brought to prison. He was suspicious of many people who crossed his path – I don't wanna give a bunch of names – but the names were very numerous. He didn't know who to trust, who to turn to, who was behind this. He was very worried that he thought Sony was behind, he thought the effort was to get his catalogue, he had trouble in trusting anyone.
In the middle of the trial he called Susan Yu, my law partner who was so important to this case … we couldn't have acquitted him without her incredible work – and he would call her in the middle of the night, and he would call me in the middle of the night, and he was crying and said, 'you guys are doing so well, please don't let them pay you off'. And I would say, Michael, what are you talking about?
He said, 'I know they gonna offer you millions, because they want me to go down and they see that you are doing a great job, that Susan Yu is doing a great job. And they gonna pay you off.' I said, 'Michael, nobody is paying me a dime, this is not the kind of person I am.' And I got the feeling he was so used to people betraying him, he was so used to hoping that someone was his friend and then suddenly they have their hand out, trying to get a project out of him...or trying to get money out of him. You know, loneliness unfortunately was a major issue of Michael – because with all that fame and talent and fortune and the properties came all that people who were guided by greed and selfishness.
And as I said before, Chris Tucker and Macaulay Culkin I will never forget. These were two young entertainer at the hight of their fame.. and they had people around them telling them 'don't get involved in that trial, don't help Michael Jackson, he's going down, your career is gonna be tarnished...' And they both said to me, separately from each other, 'whenever Michael needs us, we're gonna be there, we don't care what anybody advised us to do.' And I saw Manager, Lawyers, Agents, advising them not to get involved. And they didn't care what they said, they were gonna help Michael, they wanted the truth to come out.
But you know, you only find that when you're in trouble, who your friends really are. And Michael was frustrated about average people who were not there to help him. Liz Taylor was physically ill, she was always supportive but she was physically ill. Stevie Wonder was very supportive, he was ready to run right up. I didn't need him as a witness, because he hadn't been a witness to any of the actual actions involved in the trial as Macaulay Culkin and Chris Tucker had. <<
- Tom Mesereau, June 2014 (Blog Talk Radio)
Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
absolutely. lawsuits have several steps
demurrer - trying to get it dismissed on no legal basis
discovery
summary judgment - trying to get it dismissed on lack of evidence
and finally trial
Estate is still at the demurrer phase, trying to get the case dismissed on being filed too late. Why would they even consider a settlement when they have 2 chances of getting the case dismissed and no decision about either one is done? Why not people use a little logic and common sense on this thread?
absolutely. lawsuits have several steps
demurrer - trying to get it dismissed on no legal basis
discovery
summary judgment - trying to get it dismissed on lack of evidence
and finally trial
Estate is still at the demurrer phase, trying to get the case dismissed on being filed too late. Why would they even consider a settlement when they have 2 chances of getting the case dismissed and no decision about either one is done? Why not people use a little logic and common sense on this thread?
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Paris78;4026012 said:worth to read...
MJ Justice Project >>You have to understand that I met Michael during his lowest point in his life, I met him then he was facing charges that could have meant that he died in prison. And the charges were very disturbing. Being charged with child molestation is worse than being charged with murder. It's just a horrible, horrible allegation. (…
He felt people were after his catalogue, he felt media wanted to make a fortune and watching him to be destroyed and brought to prison. He was suspicious of many people who crossed his path – I don't wanna give a bunch of names – but the names were very numerous. He didn't know who to trust, who to turn to, who was behind this. He was very worried that he thought Sony was behind, he thought the effort was to get his catalogue, he had trouble in trusting anyone.
In the middle of the trial he called Susan Yu, my law partner who was so important to this case … we couldn't have acquitted him without her incredible work – and he would call her in the middle of the night, and he would call me in the middle of the night, and he was crying and said, 'you guys are doing so well, please don't let them pay you off'. And I would say, Michael, what are you talking about?
He said, 'I know they gonna offer you millions, because they want me to go down and they see that you are doing a great job, that Susan Yu is doing a great job. And they gonna pay you off.' I said, 'Michael, nobody is paying me a dime, this is not the kind of person I am.' And I got the feeling he was so used to people betraying him, he was so used to hoping that someone was his friend and then suddenly they have their hand out, trying to get a project out of him...or trying to get money out of him. You know, loneliness unfortunately was a major issue of Michael – because with all that fame and talent and fortune and the properties came all that people who were guided by greed and selfishness.
And as I said before, Chris Tucker and Macaulay Culkin I will never forget. These were two young entertainer at the hight of their fame.. and they had people around them telling them 'don't get involved in that trial, don't help Michael Jackson, he's going down, your career is gonna be tarnished...' And they both said to me, separately from each other, 'whenever Michael needs us, we're gonna be there, we don't care what anybody advised us to do.' And I saw Manager, Lawyers, Agents, advising them not to get involved. And they didn't care what they said, they were gonna help Michael, they wanted the truth to come out.
But you know, you only find that when you're in trouble, who your friends really are. And Michael was frustrated about average people who were not there to help him. Liz Taylor was physically ill, she was always supportive but she was physically ill. Stevie Wonder was very supportive, he was ready to run right up. I didn't need him as a witness, because he hadn't been a witness to any of the actual actions involved in the trial as Macaulay Culkin and Chris Tucker had. <<
- Tom Mesereau, June 2014 (Blog Talk Radio)
Yes, I heard this and it's so sad that Michael was so used to people stabbing him in the back that he was even worried that his own attorney would sell him out for money.
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I can't speak for everyone, but I know for me, I have absolutely no understanding of the legal process whatsoever. I didn't know there were those 4 steps, even though I think you've said it a hundred times by now between all the different threads, lol. It just doesn't sink in.
Maybe others have that same problem too? I dunno.
In the beginning people were worried and simply didn't want them to settle if it ever got to that point. That's understandable. But then Tom stated an opinion- because he was asked and he was honest with his answer- and now it seems like everyone's up in arms thinking that they will settle. I like Tom and respect him, but unless he has some insider knowledge, I don't think he knows any more than the rest of us do. It is purely speculation, and purely his own opinion. It doesn't mean he's right. So people just need to take that with a grain of salt.
It's heartbreaking. Nobody should ever have to be put in that position, to feel that way. It's hard enough not knowing who to trust, but to worry that somebody will turn their back on you over something as stupid as money? I'm glad he had a few of those kinds of people in his life. There weren't many, but they were there. It's just a shame he didn't have more.
I can't speak for everyone, but I know for me, I have absolutely no understanding of the legal process whatsoever. I didn't know there were those 4 steps, even though I think you've said it a hundred times by now between all the different threads, lol. It just doesn't sink in.
Maybe others have that same problem too? I dunno.
In the beginning people were worried and simply didn't want them to settle if it ever got to that point. That's understandable. But then Tom stated an opinion- because he was asked and he was honest with his answer- and now it seems like everyone's up in arms thinking that they will settle. I like Tom and respect him, but unless he has some insider knowledge, I don't think he knows any more than the rest of us do. It is purely speculation, and purely his own opinion. It doesn't mean he's right. So people just need to take that with a grain of salt.
It's heartbreaking. Nobody should ever have to be put in that position, to feel that way. It's hard enough not knowing who to trust, but to worry that somebody will turn their back on you over something as stupid as money? I'm glad he had a few of those kinds of people in his life. There weren't many, but they were there. It's just a shame he didn't have more.
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He'll be going head to head with the guy who rang in last time and said he believes Wade and Safechuck, that'll be an interesting discussion!
I remember Tom saying he was preparing for a trial on the last show , I'm not sure how much time he's had to look at the details of Wade's case because of this trial he's dealing with. Pretty sure someone on here had a contact email for him, if it hasn't been done already sending him info about the lawsuit would be good, if he's going to debate someone on it he needs to know as much as possible and he may not have the time to go fishing for all the info.
He'll be going head to head with the guy who rang in last time and said he believes Wade and Safechuck, that'll be an interesting discussion!
I remember Tom saying he was preparing for a trial on the last show , I'm not sure how much time he's had to look at the details of Wade's case because of this trial he's dealing with. Pretty sure someone on here had a contact email for him, if it hasn't been done already sending him info about the lawsuit would be good, if he's going to debate someone on it he needs to know as much as possible and he may not have the time to go fishing for all the info.
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I know Tom will be respectful, but still, I can't wait for this. And I'm sure he'll do his research on Wade/Safechuck. I don't think he'd enter into something like this without giving the case(s) at least a cursory glance.
He'll be going head to head with the guy who rang in last time and said he believes Wade and Safechuck, that'll be an interesting discussion!
I remember Tom saying he was preparing for a trial on the last show , I'm not sure how much time he's had to look at the details of Wade's case because of this trial he's dealing with. Pretty sure someone on here had a contact email for him, if it hasn't been done already sending him info about the lawsuit would be good, if he's going to debate someone on it he needs to know as much as possible and he may not have the time to go fishing for all the info.
I know Tom will be respectful, but still, I can't wait for this. And I'm sure he'll do his research on Wade/Safechuck. I don't think he'd enter into something like this without giving the case(s) at least a cursory glance.
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I don't think he would either, he's highly intelligent. I trust him, I just always want to make sure we have the best possible result when it comes to MJ. I don't know who the guy is who believes Wade and Safechuck or what he knows about any of it. I'm wondering if it could be someone from Mike Par's ilk, they're not shy about badgering people and I wouldn't put it past them to stalk fan oriented things to cause trouble. The reason the guy was hung up on last time is because it was the 5 year anniversary tribute show, so I think it was a low blow to ring in and say something like that at that time. As soon as he said he believed the accusers Jordan cut him off the line. Tom said he would have been happy to speak with the man which is probably why they want him to call back in. Tom will tear shreds off him!
I don't think he would either, he's highly intelligent. I trust him, I just always want to make sure we have the best possible result when it comes to MJ. I don't know who the guy is who believes Wade and Safechuck or what he knows about any of it. I'm wondering if it could be someone from Mike Par's ilk, they're not shy about badgering people and I wouldn't put it past them to stalk fan oriented things to cause trouble. The reason the guy was hung up on last time is because it was the 5 year anniversary tribute show, so I think it was a low blow to ring in and say something like that at that time. As soon as he said he believed the accusers Jordan cut him off the line. Tom said he would have been happy to speak with the man which is probably why they want him to call back in. Tom will tear shreds off him!
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That was Mike Par himself.
That was Mike Par himself.
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I understand Tom's point about freedom of expression but if that dude is who I think it is, (MJFacts or WR supporters) I was glad Jordan cut him off. The program was a tribute to celebrate Michael's life and artistry, not stirring bullshit on him. If Tom is gonna debate with him, I really think he's gonna destroy him, he defended our man and the fact that traitor bastard Robsons spect two decades defending him, it will bite his ass.
BTW, that quoted part of Tom's anecdote really broke my heart. I don't blame him at all for feeling envious of Chris Tucker because he met him in happier circumstances and Tom didn't. It really summed up the tragedy of being Michael Jackson.
I understand Tom's point about freedom of expression but if that dude is who I think it is, (MJFacts or WR supporters) I was glad Jordan cut him off. The program was a tribute to celebrate Michael's life and artistry, not stirring bullshit on him. If Tom is gonna debate with him, I really think he's gonna destroy him, he defended our man and the fact that traitor bastard Robsons spect two decades defending him, it will bite his ass.
BTW, that quoted part of Tom's anecdote really broke my heart.
I don't blame him at all for feeling envious of Chris Tucker because he met him in happier circumstances and Tom didn't. It really summed up the tragedy of being Michael Jackson.
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I'm all for freedom of speech but Mike Par is a manipulative, deceptive prick who harasses people online and then poses holier than thou, so I could not care less about him being cut off. I really do not see how giving him a platform on MJ's birthday is any better than giving him a platform on Michael's death anniversary. I'm not in favour of fans engaging with haters and giving them the attention and platforms they so crave for (because that's exactly why they do it for - attention), but if that's what Mez wants. I just hope he will be prepared for the manipulative, deceptive, misleading things this guy will say.
Yes, I agree. He also needs to know who he is talking to. It's not just some average guy who happens to believe Wade. It's an obsessed hater, whose life is centered around trashing MJ 24/7. So he needs to know that.
A couple of weeks ago I sent Mez an e-mail through the info@mesereauyu.com e-mail address that is on his website, but I haven't got an answer so I do not know if he reads that e-mail of if he gets the mail sent him through that.
I'm all for freedom of speech but Mike Par is a manipulative, deceptive prick who harasses people online and then poses holier than thou, so I could not care less about him being cut off. I really do not see how giving him a platform on MJ's birthday is any better than giving him a platform on Michael's death anniversary. I'm not in favour of fans engaging with haters and giving them the attention and platforms they so crave for (because that's exactly why they do it for - attention), but if that's what Mez wants. I just hope he will be prepared for the manipulative, deceptive, misleading things this guy will say.
Yes, I agree. He also needs to know who he is talking to. It's not just some average guy who happens to believe Wade. It's an obsessed hater, whose life is centered around trashing MJ 24/7. So he needs to know that.
A couple of weeks ago I sent Mez an e-mail through the info@mesereauyu.com e-mail address that is on his website, but I haven't got an answer so I do not know if he reads that e-mail of if he gets the mail sent him through that.
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I'll bet this will give him an ego boost which he really doesn't need. What he does need is a good therapist, it's really not healthy being this obsessive over the thought of kids being abused. I hate the way he talks to people who don't agree with him, he makes them out to be monsters who are ok with child abuse, he seems to have a very black and white view on things and can't accept being wrong about anything. When he doesn't get his way he behaves like a 2 year old having a tantrum. I was just thinking, Tom handled Sneddon very well and he was a dishonest manipulative prick too, so he shouldn't have too much trouble with this guy either, as long as he's up to speed on everything in this case. Mike timed his call to be as offensive as possible too, he's very selfish.
I'll have to get some screenshots and info together and send it to him, hopefully he'll see it before the show.
I'll bet this will give him an ego boost which he really doesn't need. What he does need is a good therapist, it's really not healthy being this obsessive over the thought of kids being abused. I hate the way he talks to people who don't agree with him, he makes them out to be monsters who are ok with child abuse, he seems to have a very black and white view on things and can't accept being wrong about anything. When he doesn't get his way he behaves like a 2 year old having a tantrum. I was just thinking, Tom handled Sneddon very well and he was a dishonest manipulative prick too, so he shouldn't have too much trouble with this guy either, as long as he's up to speed on everything in this case. Mike timed his call to be as offensive as possible too, he's very selfish.
I'll have to get some screenshots and info together and send it to him, hopefully he'll see it before the show.
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I contacted King Jordan on FB and he said Mez asked him not to give his e-mail to anyone, but he can further mails to him that we write to him. So any info you guys want to share with him or any question you have, we can collect those together and I can send it to King Jordan and he can send it to Mez.
I contacted King Jordan on FB and he said Mez asked him not to give his e-mail to anyone, but he can further mails to him that we write to him. So any info you guys want to share with him or any question you have, we can collect those together and I can send it to King Jordan and he can send it to Mez.
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That's fair enough, sounds good to me
That's fair enough, sounds good to me
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Why is this being held on Michael's birthday? It should be a day to honour the man, not give Mike Par and his group an audience for their hatred. I'm sure King Jordan has informed Tom on who these people are but I wish they had picked another day.
Why is this being held on Michael's birthday? It should be a day to honour the man, not give Mike Par and his group an audience for their hatred. I'm sure King Jordan has informed Tom on who these people are but I wish they had picked another day.
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It's not a coincidence
It's not a coincidence
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I don't think Jordan really knows who Mike Par is, he seems pretty clueless about MJ.
I don't think Jordan really knows who Mike Par is, he seems pretty clueless about MJ.
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He knows. That's why he cut him off. He even told Mez that there is this group of haters that this guy is from.
He knows. That's why he cut him off. He even told Mez that there is this group of haters that this guy is from.
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He was cut off because he said he supported Wade, Jordan didn't know who Mike was, a friend of mine was in a chat with Jordan at the time and explained to him who Mike Par is.
He was cut off because he said he supported Wade, Jordan didn't know who Mike was, a friend of mine was in a chat with Jordan at the time and explained to him who Mike Par is.
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Listen to the podcast at 72:55: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jordan...rse-lee-geraldine-hughes-celebrate-mj-5-years
Jordan does tell Mez that this was a person who had the reputation of being an internet troll and that he runs a group calling themselves Wade Robson supporters. That to me looks like Jordan was pretty much aware of who this person was.
Listen to the podcast at 72:55: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/jordan...rse-lee-geraldine-hughes-celebrate-mj-5-years
Jordan does tell Mez that this was a person who had the reputation of being an internet troll and that he runs a group calling themselves Wade Robson supporters. That to me looks like Jordan was pretty much aware of who this person was.
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I also disagree on giving that prick a platform on Michael's birthday but at the same time I'd be glad listening to Tom tearing him apart. I don't know if respect or researcher sent info to Jordan already and Tom may change his mind or approach to Parr as soon as he knows who he is.
I also disagree on giving that prick a platform on Michael's birthday but at the same time I'd be glad listening to Tom tearing him apart. I don't know if respect or researcher sent info to Jordan already and Tom may change his mind or approach to Parr as soon as he knows who he is.
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Mez knows who the guy is- he knows he's a WR supporter and that's all he needs to know, really. If he wants to do further research on the guy, okay. But I would think that's enough to suffice. At least he knows what he's dealing with.
Not sure why everyone is so up in arms over Tom being "prepared" anyway. I can understand wanting to make sure that he knows who he's up against but it almost seems like there's a "fear factor" going on here. Like everyone's afraid Par will hand Tom his ass on a silver platter :lol: Are we forgetting that Tom Mesereau is the guy who successfully defended Michael? And who is now one of the most sought after lawyers in the country- if not the world? Mike Par is just a bug on his windshield.
Mez knows who the guy is- he knows he's a WR supporter and that's all he needs to know, really. If he wants to do further research on the guy, okay. But I would think that's enough to suffice. At least he knows what he's dealing with.
Not sure why everyone is so up in arms over Tom being "prepared" anyway. I can understand wanting to make sure that he knows who he's up against but it almost seems like there's a "fear factor" going on here. Like everyone's afraid Par will hand Tom his ass on a silver platter :lol: Are we forgetting that Tom Mesereau is the guy who successfully defended Michael? And who is now one of the most sought after lawyers in the country- if not the world? Mike Par is just a bug on his windshield.
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I'm not worried that Par will come out of this winning, with a hater like this, if Tom got anything wrong about it Par would go trotting around with it. The reason this would be bad is because they would plaster it everywhere they can on the net, especially on the mjfacts website which gets quite a lot of traffic and is growing in popularity. It's easy to stumble onto that site, if someone was curious about MJ, when they search for him one likely thing they'll do is type "Michael Jackson facts" into a search engine, and that website will be on the front page, maybe even the first result. I think this is probably the reason why the site has that name, they're trying to reach as many people as they can. Of course we know it's a hater's site, but most other people who have access to the internet don't know that and haters won't be the only people who click on that site. People who may not have an opinion either way can easily stumble across it, and may be persuaded by the things they say because they have a lot of information. People like that probably wouldn't even know where to start with finding out what the truth really is and sadly most people won't be prepared to do that anyway.
These people are very manipulative and if they can make it look like Tom doesn't know what he's talking about (which wouldn't be the truth anyway but people may believe it) it may cause people who are on the fence not to listen to what he says. A more rational thinker wouldn't fall into this trap but in reality many people are like sheep with things like this and have a short attention span.
I've noticed many people seem to think a person is either a fan or a hater but it's not that black and white, there's a lot of grey in between and a lot of people are persuaded too easily, in fact, I'd say the majority of people are like this and we're already at a disadvantage because of all the negative media coverage. Unfortunately we can't just write these people off and not worry about them, the more people there are who believe the wrong things the longer it will take to turn the tide of public opinion.
Things were very different with the trial, it would have been Tom's main focus at that time so he would have put a lot of time and effort into finding the facts. Right now he's involved in a different trial which would have most of his attention, so I don't know how much time he has on his hands to research Wade's case. I have no doubt that he'll make an effort but there's only so many hours in a day and a trial takes up most of them. Despite that I think it'll go well, Tom sounded pretty keen to get into it with this guy. I do think Tom will feed Mike's arse to him, it's Mike's dishonest nature and ability to reach a lot of people who'll listen to him that concerns me.
I'm not worried that Par will come out of this winning, with a hater like this, if Tom got anything wrong about it Par would go trotting around with it. The reason this would be bad is because they would plaster it everywhere they can on the net, especially on the mjfacts website which gets quite a lot of traffic and is growing in popularity. It's easy to stumble onto that site, if someone was curious about MJ, when they search for him one likely thing they'll do is type "Michael Jackson facts" into a search engine, and that website will be on the front page, maybe even the first result. I think this is probably the reason why the site has that name, they're trying to reach as many people as they can. Of course we know it's a hater's site, but most other people who have access to the internet don't know that and haters won't be the only people who click on that site. People who may not have an opinion either way can easily stumble across it, and may be persuaded by the things they say because they have a lot of information. People like that probably wouldn't even know where to start with finding out what the truth really is and sadly most people won't be prepared to do that anyway.
These people are very manipulative and if they can make it look like Tom doesn't know what he's talking about (which wouldn't be the truth anyway but people may believe it) it may cause people who are on the fence not to listen to what he says. A more rational thinker wouldn't fall into this trap but in reality many people are like sheep with things like this and have a short attention span.
I've noticed many people seem to think a person is either a fan or a hater but it's not that black and white, there's a lot of grey in between and a lot of people are persuaded too easily, in fact, I'd say the majority of people are like this and we're already at a disadvantage because of all the negative media coverage. Unfortunately we can't just write these people off and not worry about them, the more people there are who believe the wrong things the longer it will take to turn the tide of public opinion.
Things were very different with the trial, it would have been Tom's main focus at that time so he would have put a lot of time and effort into finding the facts. Right now he's involved in a different trial which would have most of his attention, so I don't know how much time he has on his hands to research Wade's case. I have no doubt that he'll make an effort but there's only so many hours in a day and a trial takes up most of them. Despite that I think it'll go well, Tom sounded pretty keen to get into it with this guy. I do think Tom will feed Mike's arse to him, it's Mike's dishonest nature and ability to reach a lot of people who'll listen to him that concerns me.
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Anyone noticed what Stacy Brown is alleging? I personally think S.B is full of sh*t and don't believe this to be true, but it wont hurt to gather all the comments M.C and his brothers have left on Twitter, FB ect.., just in case.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Macaulay doesn't use social media. Seth Green said he doesn't have twitter. I don't believe that shameless bastard, we know he's full of shit but if Mac ever betrays Michael, I'd lose my mind. I want to believe he would never do such vile act.
Macaulay doesn't use social media. Seth Green said he doesn't have twitter. I don't believe that shameless bastard, we know he's full of shit but if Mac ever betrays Michael, I'd lose my mind. I want to believe he would never do such vile act.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
He does have a Twitter account, but hasn't used it in years. There are a couple of positive comments he has left about MJ on there. I don't think he would as he was pictured wearing a MJ t-shirts not too long ago.
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I wonder who may telling S.B these things...? My moneys on Diane Dimond, either her or he is just pulling these things out of his own arse for attention.
Does anyone know who is or how to contact M.C's publicist? I was thinking maybe we could contact him, to try and put this rumour to rest.
He does have a Twitter account, but hasn't used it in years. There are a couple of positive comments he has left about MJ on there. I don't think he would as he was pictured wearing a MJ t-shirts not too long ago.
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I wonder who may telling S.B these things...? My moneys on Diane Dimond, either her or he is just pulling these things out of his own arse for attention.
Does anyone know who is or how to contact M.C's publicist? I was thinking maybe we could contact him, to try and put this rumour to rest.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
^^I assumed that because when Mac was spotted in such a bad shape Seth said he didn't use twitter (yeah, that was the word) but he thanked the tweets wishing him a sooner recovery. Yeah I remember fans commented about his t shirt not long ago.
^^I assumed that because when Mac was spotted in such a bad shape Seth said he didn't use twitter (yeah, that was the word) but he thanked the tweets wishing him a sooner recovery. Yeah I remember fans commented about his t shirt not long ago.
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Re: [Discussion] Wade Robson files claim of sexual abuse against MJ-Estate
Hopefully it's nothing more than a rumour, that's how I'll be treating it unless solid evidence is brought forward proving otherwise. I think Stacy is just trying to get people riled up and the haters group will use it to piss off fans unnecessarily. I won't be worrying about it for now. I wonder if Wade speaks with anyone from that supporters group?
Hopefully it's nothing more than a rumour, that's how I'll be treating it unless solid evidence is brought forward proving otherwise. I think Stacy is just trying to get people riled up and the haters group will use it to piss off fans unnecessarily. I won't be worrying about it for now. I wonder if Wade speaks with anyone from that supporters group?