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This is another well written article about the genius of our Michael. His human side with frailties and defects are shown well. MJ was a very complicated, multi-level person and that's why we love him. Enjoy. :sc_imbad:
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(thank you for sharing Kathy Guzman Juliano & Betty Byrnes on FB)
Interesting excerpt from this June 1987 issue of SPIN magazine:


"He's afraid to finish the record," says an associate of Jackson's. "The closer he gets to completing it, the more terrified he becomes of that confrontation with the public. Quincy Jones could only keep him protected from it for so long, then he leaves the studio and it's there. He's reminded that everyone is waiting for this record and he goes into a shell. He is frightened."

The first thing that people who know him tell you is that there is Michael and there is the corporate entity called "Michael Jackson." "He has a split personality," says a member of his staff. "He is very bright and self-destructively brilliant. He has an extremely high I.Q. and certain quirks and personality disorders. He might have six or twenty sides to him, and they're all competing against each other."
Over the past year, Quincy Jones has devoted himself to saving Michael from Michael Jackson. Since last fall, however, Jones has been losing the battle. Michael Jackson makes more and more deals — movies, commercials, soft drinks, clothing, toys, perfumes. All of this distracts him from making the album; at the same time, all of it depends on the record's completion. Finding a way through this impasse to make an album that could possibly follow Thriller is the most difficult challenge that Michael has ever faced.

It's a clear, sunny day in West Hollywood. To the north, the Hollywood hills rise majestically over the splashy billboards, palm trees, car washes, burger stands, and mini-markets that dominate this seedy district. At night the area turns into a pick-up strip for male hookers and transvestites; otherwise no one goes there. It's the perfect spot for someone who craves anonymity.

Westlake Studio is a well-kept secret, a nondescript, two-story red brick building with beige trim and draped, tinted windows. No signs announce its location; it blends perfectly with the neighborhood's bland architecture. But in the tight alley behind Westlake sit Mercedes, Rolls-Royces, Ferraris, and stretch limousines with judiciously darkened windows.
Inside the studio, Michael Jackson is pacing the floor as jazz organist Jimmy Smith lays down tracks for a song called "Bad." It's a leaping, driving, swaggering song about what a young man can do in bed, seemingly made to order for Smith's hard-swinging style. He has knocked out one remarkable take after another, improvising solos with a wide, toothy smile.

But Michael wants something more. After the playback, he hears Lola Smith ask if everyone picked up on Jimmy's grunts while he was playing. Now Michael wants those grunts on tape, says he has to have them. Smith goes back into the booth to deliver again, this time complete with funky grunts. During these takes, Michael comes out of his shell, rocking and stamping his feet. He doesn't ever talk much, except to Jones and Frank DiLeo, his short, squat manager who has just come into the studio wrapped in a billowing cloud of cigar smoke.

As Michael nibbles on a pomegranate and whispers in DiLeo's ear, Smith begins another solo, this one even more astonishing than the others. He finishes the take and returns to the booth, sweating and staggering like a man who has been drinking and screwing all night. Michael embraces him warmly.

This is the Michael who is a pleasure to work with, a gifted songwriter and prankster. Quincy Jones watches him with obvious satisfaction. The troubles of last year seem behind them. The many Michaels have been distilled into one and he's in the studio working well.

Things aren't always this easy. Taciturn himself, Michael demands constant stimulation. He is childish but domineering, shrewd yet abstracted. He is rich and powerful, but also an insecure child. He can be angelically sweet or cuttingly cold. His every whim is satisfied. He gets what he wants, but only as long as he remains inside the cocoon of his self-created isolation.
 
I had to dig out the whole article to get full picture of it
http://www.spin.com/articles/michael-jackson-bad-1987-cover-story/

While I agree that MJ had frailties and defects like any other person, but after reading the full article there are some rubbish in it too:)
From Nelson George:
"Michael Jackson is not an experimenter," George continues. "He generates some songs, but he's not a creative artist like Prince. He's more Cab Calloway than he is Duke Ellington. He's also very comfortable with The Sound of Music and that whole Broadway-Hollywood white thing. I mean, he's kind of Bing Crosby updated. Except for a few songs, like 'Billie Jean,' 'You Wanna Be Startin' Something?' and 'You Push Me Away,' his songwriting is not rich."

I disagree with Nelson George, but I agree with this:
"Many of the attacks came from white rock critics who suddenly seemed to resent his unparalleled success. Jackson doesn't fit the model for rock critic idolatry. Someone like Bruce Springsteen plays the guitar, writes songs that are subject to literary criticism, and dances like a white guy. Whereas Michael Jackson represents a black cultural heritage that white rock critics either don't know about or would rather appreciate nostalgically from someone who's dead."

It still applies.
 
Thanks for posting victory, fascinating reading articles in the 80s, agree with bubs in that i didn't find it particularly sympathetic. AFter what happened in 93, i tend to underestimate the backlash (maybe it was just the usa) that mj got after thriller. This talk of 'suspected dark, subterranean sexuality' shows that there were people out there thinking dark things about mj for a long time.

"He has a split personality," says a member of his staff. "He is very bright and self-destructively brilliant. He has an extremely high I.Q. and certain quirks and personality disorders.
I wonder exactly what personality disorders this unnamed member of staff who's presumablly also a qualified psychotherapist thinks mj had - judging from his remarks, schizophrenia. I wonder if spin mag printing such an article bothered to realise that they were part of the problem of fame and hurt and isolation that mj was experiencing.

Jimmy Smith lays down tracks for a song called "Bad." It's a leaping, driving, swaggering song about what a young man can do in bed.
?Well that's certainly a new spin on bad. :D

Lol at the trevor nelson quote that he calls mj an updated bing crosby!? Don't know much about bing but i'm not thinking even in the 80s that wd be seen as a good thing.
 
Lots of backhanded compliments in this article. I don't really see it as very positive. Nelson George is a flip-flopper. When Michael was alive he trashed him as a musician more often than not (like in the above article as well). I also remember an article from 2005 in which he compared Michael and R. Kelly. Actually the article attempted to answer the question why the world seemed to be more forgiving to R. Kelly than to MJ regarding child abuse allegations. And basically Nelson George's opinon was that it was because R. Kelly was a better musician... (Let's not even get into the ridiculousness of this comparasion in every other way as well - and I do not mean musically, but the facts of their cases.)

But now, after his death and when MJ is cool again, Nelson George in documentaries like Bad 25, praising him as a genius...
 
For anyone to come out and say MJ didn't experiment artistically doesn't know what the heck they're talking about. That's all I have to say about that lol And this 'split personality' talk is probably the product of someone who ONLY looked at MJ as a personality. What he described was someone being HUMAN - its not some kinda split personality disorder like he made it out to be. Everyone acts different in different situations, days, moods, seasons. Let's be real :p
 
For anyone to come out and say MJ didn't experiment artistically doesn't know what the heck they're talking about. That's all I have to say about that lol And this 'split personality' talk is probably the product of someone who ONLY looked at MJ as a personality. What he described was someone being HUMAN - its not some kinda split personality disorder like he made it out to be. Everyone acts different in different situations, days, moods, seasons. Let's be real :p

Great post.
That split personality thingy got my laughing. All the people have different sides in them, more so in artistic type of people, but only Michael gets questionable honour to be called split personality:doh:

About MJ not experimenting artistically? This article was originally posted before Bad was release and maybe Nelson George felt that there was no experimental in MJ songs prior Bad. Michael's most experimental work came after he was in full control of his work, so NG spoke too early.
Too funny that NG says in that article it was Quincy J job to make them songs rich and hints that without Q MJ wouldn't have been as successful, yet MJ gets all the credit for NOT being artistically experimental.
If somethings are good in MJ's album, someone else gets the credit for it, but if something is bad in the albums, Michael gets the full credit for it :scratch:

Addition to that white rock critics resenting MJ, it works to black critics too. They didn't find Michael black enough thus there is some unrealistic and unwarranted critic towards MJ and his music.
 
^ Yes, it's a pre-Bad article which just shows that the backlash against MJ started as soon as the Thriller era was over. He did not even have to release Bad yet, the press already decided to put him down. Nelson George claims the only rich songs MJ ever wrote were Billie Jean, WBSS and Push Me Away. Really? Even back then: what about Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough, Working Day and Night, Get on the Floor, Heartbreak Hotel, Can You Feel It, Walk Right Now and other songs on Jacksons' albums? And after Thriller MJ was only on his 2nd adult solo album.

It's just the typical 80s narrative of pitting MJ against Prince. I'm a fan of Prince as well and he published a lot more music than MJ but he was also kind of a hit or miss to me - more so than MJ who, to me at least, was more consistently good through his career.
 
I remember a documentation, I believe called Doktor Prince and Mr. Jackson, which was on air of Arte short after MJs dead where Nelson George said:

"When Jackson bought the Beatles catalog I knew now he is completely mad."

and in the Bad 25 documentation he said the complete opposite about it.
 
I don't know, even Thriller itself was experimental. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so legendary and ground breaking. Sorry but I don't think anything sounded like Billie Jean or Thriller or Beat It at the time it came out. But I do see the general 'hateration" surrounding anything after Thriller.
 
^^I went to search that Mr Prince and Mr Jackson and came across with this article he wrote about MJ in 2005
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2005/jun/17/michaeljackson.popandrock

"I had emotionally disconnected from Michael over the years, as his skin tone lightened and his public persona darkened. I'm not alone in that. While black Americans are usually quite loyal to our tainted stars (see OJ and Mike Tyson), support for Michael seems more muted. I suspect this is as much because of his ongoing loss of pigment as for the crimes he's been accused of. None of his explanations for how he grew lighter have been very convincing. It is one thing to have a white district attorney target you: black people understand that game. It is another when you seem (and I use "seem" since there is no hard evidence for this) to have wilfully tried to de-black yourself."
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2005/jun/17/michaeljackson.popandrock


I thought he was a good guy, but obviously it is not the case:-(
He seems to be nasty piece of work.
For (some) white critics, they didn't know what to make of him, so they verbally abused him
For (some) black people he wasn't black (or was trying to de-black himself:doh:) enough and they too verbally abused him.

I wonder how he feels about himself now, considering what he has said in the past?
I hope now he speaks highly of Michael because he has learnt the truth and not because Michael died.
 
I remember this Nelson guy from the Bad 25 docu, cant believe he wrote these horrible things, what a fake person.

I had to laugh at this: " At 29, Michael Jackson looks barely 19: in his white pancake makeup, he looks like a ghost."
This was the era Michael looked his absolute best imo, yeah much younger than his actual age but definitely not a ghost ?! Gosh i wanna slap someone when i read stuff like that...
 
"I had emotionally disconnected from Michael over the years, as his skin tone lightened and his public persona darkened. I'm not alone in that. While black Americans are usually quite loyal to our tainted stars (see OJ and Mike Tyson), support for Michael seems more muted. I suspect this is as much because of his ongoing loss of pigment as for the crimes he's been accused of. None of his explanations for how he grew lighter have been very convincing. It is one thing to have a white district attorney target you: black people understand that game. It is another when you seem (and I use "seem" since there is no hard evidence for this) to have wilfully tried to de-black yourself."
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2005/jun/17/michaeljackson.popandrock

Yes, he's pretty judgemental. The whole allegation about Michael "de-blacking" himself is interesting because other than his color (which is a result of vitilgo) he never showed any sign of distancing himself from his race. When he talked he always considered himself a black man. He always gave lots of money to black charities - like the education of black youth etc. He always talked about the richness of African American culture, how African American artists have been pioneers in music and dance etc. He visited Africa as "home land" etc.

There are a number of black celebrities who in their rethorics distanced themselves from black culture more than MJ ever did, yet their racial identity is never questioned, just because their skin remained dark. For example, Pharell Williams' recent "new black" rethorics, some of the things Tina Turner said etc. Since Nelson George seems to be such a fan of Prince: even Prince did questionable things in this area. Eg. in Purple Rain he had a white woman playing his mother indicating he was bi-racial, when in reality he isn't.

Michael never claimed to be anything else than a black man. He never denied his cultural background, in fact he was always very proud of it. He was never any of those black celebs who are like "you know, I'm not really black, I have 2% white in me, so i'm bi-racial". But apparently to some skin is more important than any of that.
 
Yes, he's pretty judgemental. The whole allegation about Michael "de-blacking" himself is interesting because other than his color (which is a result of vitilgo) he never showed any sign of distancing himself from his race. When he talked he always considered himself a black man. He always gave lots of money to black charities - like the education of black youth etc. He always talked about the richness of African American culture, how African American artists have been pioneers in music and dance etc. He visited Africa as "home land" etc.

There are a number of black celebrities who in their rethorics distanced themselves from black culture more than MJ ever did, yet their racial identity is never questioned, just because their skin remained dark. For example, Pharell Williams' recent "new black" rethorics, some of the things Tina Turner said etc. Since Nelson George seems to be such a fan of Prince: even Prince did questionable things in this area. Eg. in Purple Rain he had a white woman playing his mother indicating he was bi-racial, when in reality he isn't.

Michael never claimed to be anything else than a black man. He never denied his cultural background, in fact he was always very proud of it. He was never any of those black celebs who are like "you know, I'm not really black, I have 2% white in me, so i'm bi-racial". But apparently to some skin is more important than any of that.

Great post. I would like to frame this one.
 
Blah! Nelson George has NEVER valued Michael's musical legacy and he certainly does not like Michael as a person. However, like a certain Stacy Brown, he does not hesitate to cash in on Michael when he can - so he is positive when he needs to be.

As far as that man is concerned, Prince should have been elevated to the status that Michael was and it galls George that Prince was not.For proof, look at how he has written and talked about Prince over the years.
 
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