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The video was just uploaded
It brings quite a surprise in the beginning and kind of a little disrespecting to the original version

 
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What the hell was the point in the beginning part? Got me thinking it was the original then just put the remix on? Kinda made me not enjoy the video tbh. And yeah it's kinda disrespectful to the original. Thanks for posting though.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
What the hell was the point in the beginning part? Got me thinking it was the original then just put the remix on? Kinda made me not enjoy the video tbh. And like the OP said kinda disrespectful to the original
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Lol the guy actually presses the play button of the Original version in his phone but the new version starts playing in the video. :D
I don't think it is disrespecting the old version, they just used that part to fit the opening scene, in the desert and all with the guy lazily playing the guitar. I actually liked the choreography in this one.
Videos like these makes me want to get out and take up a course in animation. :D I wish I could bring out the images in my head I have for this song.
The comments are disabled for the video. The estate is definitely reading our threads. :bugeyed
 
Ridiculous (and I'm not even talking about the sloppy error that the guy's phone actually shows he starts playing the original version).

Way to 'celebrate' Michael on his birthday. Have his music play for half a minute and then have the lead character in the video 'block out the noise' and play a remix instead.
 
speeddemon88 said:
or the Estate is expecting a lot of negative comments.
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It would be a valid expectation.

This video is two commercials in one: Jeep and MJ ONE get a nod.

These videos are both true disappointments for Michael and Stargate.
 
That was a great video they did. I really liked it. Well done! I enjoyed watching it.

I like that it felt like a story with a beginning and an end. They made it "tidy."

It so fits the idea behind the song, for many feel like going to Vegas is like going to a different world.

And more than that, when one is enjoying good entertainment, like MJ's ONE show, it is entering a place for awhile where "there is no pain," for you can forget about your troubles and get caught up in the show unraveling before your eyes...that's great escapism.

I find it fun that the cast enjoys doing their own version of a video of some of these more recent releases. Good for them! I think it would make Michael smile, if he could see their efforts and enthusiasm.
He was very generous in that way. :)
 
SoCav said:
Ridiculous (and I'm not even talking about the sloppy error that the guy's phone actually shows he starts playing the original version).

Way to 'celebrate' Michael on his birthday. Have his music play for half a minute and then have the lead character in the video 'block out the noise' and play a remix instead.
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His music is original version and his music is contemporized version also! And it's not "a remix", it's the album version and second single from the album.
 
Lisha said:
That was a great video they did. I really liked it. Well done! I enjoyed watching it.

I like that it felt like a story with a beginning and an end. They made it "tidy."

It so fits the idea behind the song, for many feel like going to Vegas is like going to a different world.

And more than that, when one is enjoying good entertainment, like MJ's ONE show, it is entering a place for awhile where "there is no pain," for you can forget about your troubles and get caught up in the show unraveling before your eyes...that's great escapism.

I find it fun that the cast enjoys doing their own version of a video of some of these more recent releases. Good for them! I think it would make Michael smile, if he could see their efforts and enthusiasm.
He was very generous in that way. :)
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I just read something similar from a fan of germany who was for some weeks in the USA.


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Wow, they have super implemented the main part of our holiday film .... madness ..... Only we two should be in the car. 4 1/2 hours through the desert, arriving in "One". : dance: Just this artist / dancer was it who impressed us most and stucked out of he mass. We would have definitely incorporated the hologram. It is breathtaking and unforgettable. The hologram acts very realistic (No comparison to the telvison-impression). He was really in front of us: Michae:, sang "Man in the mirror" and if he would not be crumble to stardust, then ......

Who has the ability to see- the show you must go !!!!!!
 
Oh the disappointment at the beginning thinking erroneously Michael's music would be finally included to promote his work, that was disrespectful. And I didn't get the point of making another video including the contemporized version again.
 
How dare they use MJ's music to co promote another MJ related project... oh wait.. never mind. gotta love MJ fans love of drama though.

Use of remix/new version could be due to their attempt to chart the song. streaming of both videos will count towards the same version of the song.

and when did the new versions became not MJ's music? Just because they changed the packaging it doesn't mean it's not mj's music imo.
 
OnirMJ said:
His music is original version and his music is contemporized version also! And it's not "a remix", it's the album version and second single from the album.
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The contemporized version isn't Michael's music. He had nothing to do with the creation of it. Only the vocals are Michael's in that version, in my opinion of course.
 
Snow White luvs Peter Pan said:
Oh the disappointment at the beginning thinking erroneously Michael's music would be finally included to promote his work, that was disrespectful. And I didn't get the point of making another video including the contemporized version again.
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It's still Michael's music. Just different version.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
The contemporized version isn't Michael's music. He had nothing to do with the creation of it. Only the vocals are Michael's in that version, in my opinion of course.
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In your opinion, of course. But it is still Michael's music. I'm not talking about the instrumental, I'm talking about the song = music = Michael Jackson's music.
 
OnirMJ said:
His music is original version and his music is contemporized version also! And it's not "a remix", it's the album version and second single from the album.
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How are these tracks different from any other remix, apart from the fact they are officially promoted as 'the new Michael Jackson songs'? Slapping an official label on it does not make it Michael's music.

OnirMJ said:
In your opinion, of course. But it is still Michael's music. I'm not talking about the instrumental, I'm talking about the song = music = Michael Jackson's music.
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A song consists of many different parts, only one of which is the vocals. That's the only part on these 'contemporizations' that Michael had anything to do with. All the other parts were newly created, without taking the ideas he had for those other parts into account.

ivy said:
and when did the new versions became not MJ's music? Just because they changed the packaging it doesn't mean it's not mj's music imo.
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I guess I have an entirely different view of music. To call all the music around MJ's vocals the 'packaging' is just something I cannot understand.
 
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SoCav said:
How are these tracks different from any other remix, apart from the fact they are officially promoted as 'the new Michael Jackson songs'?


A song consists of many different parts, only one of which is the vocals. That's the only part on these 'contemporizations' that Michael had anything to do with. All the other parts were newly created, without taking the ideas he had for those other parts into account.
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They are not remixes, they are album versions. Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfuxJGrAO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-DyQ268AFs

That was finished song but MJ and Teddy Riley decided to contemporize it. Because MJ & Bill Bottrell's version was not "current enough".

Maybe MJ did not create any part of the new instrumentation but MJ vocals guided (influenced) StarGate to create new instrumentation around those vocals. And it's not just the vocals, it's the melody, it's the song (not instrumentation and not production) that is the same.
 
OnirMJ said:
They are not remixes, they are album versions. Like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfuxJGrAO8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-DyQ268AFs

That was finished song but MJ and Teddy Riley decided to contemporize it. Because MJ & Bill Bottrell was not "current enough".
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Obviously, the song was not finished. Just because it was relatively complete does not mean MJ thought it was finished. That's why he decided to ask Teddy Riley to change it. And if you cannot see the difference between a producer at MJ's request working on a song together with MJ vs some producers posthumously building entirely new instrumentals around old acapellas, I don't know what to say anymore really.

Maybe MJ did not create any part of the new instrumentation but MJ vocals guided (influenced) StarGate to create new instrumentation around those vocals. And it's not just the vocals, it's the melody, it's the song (not instrumentation and not production) that is the same.
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The bolded is exactly what producers do when they make a remix.

As for the last part, yeah, the vocals and thus the vocal melody are the same. All the parts around it are not though. They did not preserve anything that MJ worked on in the final mix.
 
SoCav said:
Obviously, the song was not finished. Just because it was relatively complete does not mean MJ thought it was finished. That's why he decided to ask Teddy Riley to change it. And if you cannot see the difference between a producer at MJ's request working on a song together with MJ vs some producers posthumously building entirely new instrumentals around old acapellas, I don't know what to say anymore really.


The bolded is exactly what producers do when they make a remix.

As for the last part, yeah, the vocals and thus the vocal melody are the same. All the parts around it are not though. They did not preserve anything that MJ worked on in the final mix.
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I don't know what to say to you either. Technically they could be classified as remixes, but they are NOT.

Also: "And if you cannot see the difference between a producer at MJ's request working on a song together with MJ vs some producers posthumously building entirely new instrumentals around old acapellas"

Do you know that MJ is dead? He was killed, so obviously he can not finish those songs himself or with a producer.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
MJ had nothing to do with the remixes on the album. It is StarGates music with MJ vocals
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Like I said MJ is dead! He was killed, so obviously he can not finish those songs himself or with a producer.

MJ had nothing to do with producing the new versions of the songs on the album. That's why he was not credited as producer (except as vocal producer).
 
OnirMJ said:
Like I said MJ is dead! He was killed, so obviously he can not finish those songs himself or with a producer.

MJ had nothing to do with producing the new versions of the songs on the album. That's why he was not credited as producer (except as vocal producer).
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I don't see how the fact he has passed makes StarGates music his. They completely disregarded the original instrumentation. It's all new therefore not MJ's
 
OnirMJ said:
I don't know what to say to you either. Technically they could be clasified as remixes, but they are NOT.
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Simply because they are released as the official versions?

Do you know that MJ is dead? He was killed, so obviously he can not finish those songs himself or with a producer.
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Just because Michael has passed away does not mean that when others create their interpretations of his songs they now magically become 'his music'.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
I don't see how the fact he has passed makes StarGates music his. They completely disregarded the original instrumentation. It's all new therefore not MJ's
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That's what I said. Instrumentation is StarGate's, not MJ's. But it's still MJ's music. It's on MJ's album. MJ co-wrote it and sang it. It's his music.
 
SoCav said:
Simply because they are released as the official versions?


Just because Michael has passed away does not mean that when others create their interpretations of his songs they now magically become 'his music'.
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Both versions are official. Only 1 is original. But both are Michael Jackson's music. The point is that album versions of previously unreleased songs are not remixes. Let's agree to disagree?
 
OnirMJ said:
Both versions are official. Only 1 is original. But both are Michael Jackson's music. The point is that album versions of previously unreleased songs are not remixes.
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Well, I still don't understand how these songs are any different from remixes in your eyes. It'd be similar if MJ had never released Black or White and the Estate would put out the Clivilles & Cole remix. Would that track then suddenly not be a remix anymore, just because it was released as the 'official version'?

OnirMJ said:
Let's agree to disagree?
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Agreed! ;)
 
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I may be too picky but there was nothing inspiring of that video that makes want to watch it again. And those contemporized versions aren't Michael's music, he had nothing to do with instrumentation and mixing.
 
Prince Of Pop said:
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If I am understanding this, MJ ONE is celebrating Michael's birthday and I assume promoting their celebratory show on that day. Not surprisingly, Jeep received free promotion as well although Jeep will not be doing anything celebratory in Las Vegas, U.S. on Michael's birthday.

However; those promotions are short term and the video - that is suppose to promote Xscape's APWNN - should be one that will stand the test of time. This will not.
 
SoCav said:
Well, I still don't understand how these songs are any different from remixes in your eyes. It'd be similar if MJ had never released Black or White and the Estate would put out the Clivilles & Cole remix. Would that track then suddenly not be a remix anymore, just because it was released as the 'official version'?


Agreed! ;)
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All officially released versions are official. Both studio versions and remixes are official if they are officially released.

Clivilles & Cole remix would never be released as "studio" or album version because that song is house song - classic '90 remix. Just like all Blood On The Dance Floor remixes.

This time producers were not aiming to produce club/house remixes. They were trying to create new songs as it is stated in the album booklet.

If they released Audien remix of Slave or Fedde Le Grand remix of Love as album versions (but they are not that stupid - because MJ was R'n'B/Pop singer, not house DJ) - then I would say: yes - it's a compilation of remixes. For Xscape songs I can not say that.
 
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