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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

VaNiL;4237971 said:
On Twitter the people and press who saw the doc wrote it was 100% believable and they're left the cinema convinced MJ did all that. It is graphic and crude as it can be, and they even used "voice recordings" and """love""" notes from MJ to back their claims.

A huge HUGE shitstorm is coming.
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Which “journalists” are we talking about here? Tabloid hacks by any chance?

Any are we supposed to believe there are voice recordings that prove MJ molested children? Where were these “voice recordings” when he was on trial and had the full force of the law investigating him? Are these the same messages that Wade couldn’t bare to delete after MJ died?

This film will be padded out with tabloid stories that have been floating around for decades.
 
dmehta;4237972 said:
Which “journalists” are we talking about here? Tabloid hacks by any chance?
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I'm from Spain, so I don't know names from US journalists. I won't be going back to twitter for a while, reading that opinions broke my heart once again. And just seeing the picture of those two receiving and standing ovation made me sick. I did read the 4 hours doc was filled with "heartful" interviews of those two and their families; some fans were saying they copied some stories from Victor Gutiérrez book, but don't remember specifics. They talked about masturbation, the use of vaseline and stuff like that. Just plain creepy.

I didn't had the strength to keep on reading. That was it for me.
 
dmehta;4237972 said:
Which “journalists” are we talking about here? Tabloid hacks by any chance?

Any are we supposed to believe there are voice recordings that prove MJ molested children? Where were these “voice recordings” when he was on trial and had the full force of the law investigating him? Are these the same messages that Wade couldn’t bare to delete after MJ died?

This film will be padded out with tabloid stories that have been floating around for decades.
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No, just regular voice mails I think!
 
dmehta;4237972 said:
Which “journalists” are we talking about here? Tabloid hacks by any chance?

Any are we supposed to believe there are voice recordings that prove MJ molested children? Where were these “voice recordings” when he was on trial and had the full force of the law investigating him? Are these the same messages that Wade couldn’t bare to delete after MJ died?

This film will be padded out with tabloid stories that have been floating around for decades.
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People who went there believing mj was guilty and came out convinced of what they already believe. from the account we have heard so far they lied again and contradicted their themselves but who cares!
 
Soundmind;4237978 said:
People who went there believing mj was guilty and came out convinced of what they already believe. from the account we have heard so far they lied again and contradicted their themselves but who cares!
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Yep agree. No doubt the people who went already believed Mike was guilty.

Unfortuantley, an accusation in itself is damaging. We all know that. People are always inclined to believe an alleged victim. We can’t get past that fact.
 
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Well this is how one sided stories usually go. Now it all comes down to who believes them and who believes Mike.
 
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while we have not seen the documentary and do not want to, we should be prepared for the various questions and allegations that will come from the video.. As fans, that is really what we could do.. The one thing different about this documentary and allegations than others - is not so much with Wade but James..

We need to have reasonable answers about James specifically. bringing up 2005 allegations or Jordy etc. will come off like diversions to people that ask about James.. James was in this non talking neutral position for years which takes away our 'ammo' of defense.

In doing so, what do we KNOW about him, his life and so on? what indications of bad motives on his part? Aside from the obvious banter of "Who waits until someone is dead..." type talk.. I mean the real STUFF!
 
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Weinstein and co have successfully diverted all the attention from them again. From now on it is going to be about MJ and MJ only.
 
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KOPV said:
while we have not seen the documentary and do not want to, we should be prepared for the various questions and allegations that will come from the video.. As fans, that is really what we could do.. The one thing different about this documentary and allegations than others - is not so much with Wade but James..

We need to have reasonable answers about James specifically. bringing up 2005 allegations or Jordy etc. will come off like diversions to people that ask about James.. James was in this non talking neutral position for years which takes away our 'ammo' of defense.

In doing so, what do we KNOW about him, his life and so on? what indications of bad motives on his part? Aside from the obvious banter of "Who waits until someone is dead..." type talk.. I mean the real STUFF!
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His own lawsuit which makes no sense whatsoever.
 
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What's new? These headlines are routine.
 
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Robbsaber01 said:
These headlines are rediculous. SMDH
'He was a pedophile': Michael Jackson documentary Leaving Neverland sickens Sundance with 'sexually explicit and devastating' proof that King of Pop was a 'monster' who 'sexually abused a lot of children'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...of-Michael-Jackson-pedophile-say-critics.html
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Once again, we have the proof that these fools are lying. This was already proven in court and anyone listening to these fools already had their minds made up. Like we said, we have keep pushing the PROOF. These folks do not have a leg to stand on. The COURTS where it counts proven the innocent and not some doc. Again, I am not hearing nothing about it here.
 
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Smooth72 said:
Well this is how one sided stories usually go. Now it all comes down to who believes them and who believes Mike.
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This is why a rebuttal film needs to come out.
 
dmehta;4237989 said:
The Daily Mail is almost as bad as the Sun. It’s to be expected unfortunately.
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Daily mail is bad especially when it comes to Mike. it wont work.
 
dmehta;4237979 said:
Yep agree. No doubt the people who went already believed Mike was guilty.

Unfortuantley, an accusation in itself is damaging. We all know that. People are always inclined to believe an alleged victim. We can’t get past that fact.
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But these are NOT the kind of victims people believe. Defending the person for years even in court along with all other stuff. Like we said, people who went there already had their minds made up. Keep it in perspective. What can this doc show that was not done in court (And Mj had no free pass).
 
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Proof? Right, if there was actual proof, this doc wouldn't even have happened and Wade and Safechuck would have won a few years ago. I seriously wonder what these idiots consider proof.
 
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Does anyone just not have the energy to defend Michael at this point? I know from everything I've read that this story isn't being told fairly, but a quarter of a century on, I am so tired of it.

I really hope no one asks me about it.
 
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They even go as far as to say he abused a lot of children, really now? The goddamn Jacksons should sue these two lowlife pieces of SHIT all the way to hell. I took one short look at that TMZ link...

Apparently MJ abused his own child now too. The things I wish upon these two liars now........

@ChrisC

I'm with you on that. Sunday my nephew turns 5 and my aunt and uncle will be there too. Their opinion, which is fully based on tabloids on MJ isn't exactly great and I just hope so much they won't wring it up.
 
Well i saw someone post this in a tweet (a tweet defending MJ by the way). It’s the Q&A, and yes Wade and Jimmy are there, with fake tears in their eyes on stage.

https://youtu.be/dVQUCWJlJ_w

Btw, I didn’t watch the video beyond the first few seconds. Can’t bring myself
to watch this filth.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Proof? Right, if there was actual proof, this doc wouldn't even have happened and Wade and Safechuck would have won a few years ago. I seriously wonder what these idiots consider proof.
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again, people need to keep things in perspective. Who covering this? TABLOID press. If this get deeper, you can believe people are going to dig into these guys. I do not care what someone is doing at Sundance. I do not believe everyone there believe this nonsense either. IF these fools want to play dirty, we will be prepared if this doc grows. Again, there is too much proof show these guys are liars. I do not want to hear what some tabloid is saying. These cases were won IN COURT with the testimony to back it up. That is the PLUS we as Jackson's fans have and good thinking people will know it.
 
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Just FYI the director has made a documentary about pedophilia back in 2014.. I just checked and that entire documentary is on youtube! he has a few documentaries and up til this MJ project, that was his 'claim to fame', seems like he took a page out of his own book and took it to an MJ level project.
 
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Seriously, anyone that is already through with it for today, don't check the TMZ link. The "details" are really bad. This actually is the first time one of his own children is brought up and with claims that he was abusing one of them. The nerve on these Robson and Safechuck......

Standing ovation? Tears? I am not watching any of that Q&A, **** this so damn much.

@Terrell

You're right about that, absolutely. I shouldn't let it get the best of me. So far it doesn't seem to have reached actual news (at least not in Holland) cause my stepfather would have brought it up for damn sure.

This "doc" was the perfect opportunity for these vermin from tabloids to do what they do best, what they have been missing. Finally being able to shit on Mike again.
 
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Well claiming he abused one of his own children just proves how low these people will go. I think most people will see right through that.
 
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Who cares if they are doing a standing ovations. Who is going to sit down. That is typical at an event. STILL and fans have to keep this in perspective. We have the goods on these guys if this go futher like the RKelly doc. It will be dissected if it goes further.
 
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honestly, I try to keep a level head about stuff like this.. even go as far as trying to calm people down but more so than anything that is hard for me to turn off in my mind is the twitter users reaction to the film that are there.. It pisses me off!! and I know there is nothing I can do right now.
 
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I honestly fear the worst now tbh. I said that people are just gonna believe this shit and it's happening.
 
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dmehta said:
Well claiming he abused one of his own children just proves how low these people will go. I think most people will see right through that.
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Absolutely. Except for the mindless souls that gave these two shits a standing ovation. Those sure will believe it. I'm hoping that the mainstream media, the actual media won't even cover this. Have news in the USA, UK, etc been bringing this up at all? Because if not, that would be a damn, damn good thing.

Again, I didn't hear my stepfather about anything and he notified me of Robson on the news years ago. Of course this doesn't necessarily include a lot of websites, so I guess it's definitely possible a lot of people in Holland will know about it by now. But hopefully they won't cover any of that tabloid filth.
 
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