Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

[KOPV]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Id trust spike with it, and because of the movement in giving black directors the credit they deserve has been on a rise - it would get good attention with his name behind it.

He is a trusted director!

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

No point creating a docu if you cant get anyone to aire it . you think any major network will give a "pro" mj docu airtime when theres a obvious major lynch mob agenda by the establishment to destroy mj.i doubt any big time director will get involved as they will warned off and be threatened with being blacklisted. They wont want any damage done to their reps. Personally im not keen on Lee after his ignorant comments about mjs skin talk about pandering to the establishment.

 

[terrell]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Guys please join this discussion aswell,
https://jezebel.com/michael-jackson-documentary-leaving-neverland-is-shocki-1832084914
I commented as Mrkleeeds and it seems comment sections by large is making a lot of progress as to shift the narrative to the thruth side.
WE WONT HAVE MJ JUDGED AS IF HE IS SITTING IN A COURTROOM AGAIN. THIS BS GOTTA STOP!

That website is rigged. I see none of my post in there.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

I was thinking this as well. Spike would be perfect.

Can someone with access to the estate, share this idea with them? This rebuttal docu needs to be done correctly and with someone who can get maximum exposure. Spike has the name recognition and he is a widely respected director and film maker. This rebuttal needs to be put out as soon as possible. The fans have basically done all of the work with all of the videos, transcripts, interviews, etc. that they have posted. We just need someone like Spike to draw attention and put everything together. Sorry, I don’t think that Taj can get this done by himself. Maybe he and Spike can co-produce/co-direct this together. Btw, I absolutely LOVE Taj, TJ and Tarryl. They have always been there for Michael, as he was for them. Thank God they are in Paris, Prince and Blanket’s life!!

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Most comment sections are rigged. Daily fail amongst others used to delete any pro mj comments as quick as they were posted. Happened many times over the years

 

[englishhooligan]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Hey, anyone want to take a swing at this? I'm at work and honestly am not the best when it comes to debating. Also tired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/popheads/c...ndance_film/ef3w71q?utm_source=reddit-android

 

[KOPV]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

^ someone tell that dummy that Jordy description didnt match and explain that there was more to be lost by stopping promotion for dangerous than giving evan what he was demanding.. and not all of it came from jokes pocket anyways..

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

No point creating a docu if you cant get anyone to aire it . you think any major network will give a "pro" mj docu airtime when theres a obvious major lynch mob agenda by the establishment to destroy mj.i doubt any big time director will get involved as they will warned off and be threatened with being blacklisted. They wont want any damage done to their reps. Personally im not keen on Lee after his ignorant comments about mjs skin talk about pandering to the establishment.

That's very disappointing to hear, sounds similar to what Quincy has said then and it's ignorant and stupid as hell. Just like how you got people saying he hated his skin color and that's why he bleached it, so goddamn ridiculous. Phonte from Little Brother had a real good piece on this after MJ passed away. It was about how much black pride he had, and that if you take a good look at things like the video of B&W you can easily spot that too.

What exactly did Spike say? I really appreciated how he has that yearly celebration of MJ in the projects but this really sucks.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

That website is rigged. I see none of my post in there.

It’s possible it’s rigged. These websites used to do that years ago. They would not post the pro MJ comments, only the negative ones. There was an agenda then, and there is still an agenda to destroy Michael’s legacy. There are some who can’t stand that Michael is STILL the biggest star in the world, even in death.

 

[terrell]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Most comment sections are rigged. Daily fail amongst others used to delete any pro mj comments as quick as they were posted. Happened many times over the years

Yeah but one is totally rigged. I posted over 15 post in responsed to those ignore fools and none of mine are posted. I will take that site with a grain of salt. They do not want the truth. I think those are Radaronline and others. One poster is even judging fans for spreading the word. That makes me know some people are trying to bring down MJ on purpose. It wont work. Like we said, this will blow over and those haters can hate all they want. MJ is going to be loved, played, admire, etc even when his haters are dead and gone. MJ will live on forever. As I keep saying hollowing wolves will make the noise at the moon but the moon is still high and shining bright EVERYDAY and the wolves go away.

 

[Lovepeace1]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

I think in the past I saw several videos of Aroon Carter talking privately with a person and telling him that Michael gave him wine at 14 and that one day he found him in his bed or something like that. Then he said that the journalists had said it but I remember seeing that video, look today and I found a couple of short videos of the video that I saw. I share it so that they see it ... then why did he say that the media had invented it if videos come out where he is seen saying it or being heard? I do not understand anything, he left behind when he saw the media impact he had and he denied everything or what happened?

https://youtu.be/NLg0gn7h2fA

 

[somewhereinthedark]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

That's very disappointing to hear, sounds similar to what Quincy has said then and it's ignorant and stupid as hell. Just like how you got people saying he hated his skin color and that's why he bleached it, so goddamn ridiculous. Phonte from Little Brother had a real good piece on this after MJ passed away. It was about how much black pride he had, and that if you take a good look at things like the video of B&W you can easily spot that too.

What exactly did Spike say? I really appreciated how he has that yearly celebration of MJ in the projects but this really sucks.

Spike was ignorant like a lot of people until he actually met Michael. Spike turned into a fawning fan after that.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Some people have to be left to fester in their own s$/# terrell. You are doing your best x

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

After mj died spike said he for gave him for not wanting to be black. Seeing as spike sees himself as such a social type activist he was sucked in good and proper by the white and uncle tom agenda

 

[somewhereinthedark]

No point creating a docu if you cant get anyone to aire it . you think any major network will give a "pro" mj docu airtime when theres a obvious major lynch mob agenda by the establishment to destroy mj.i doubt any big time director will get involved as they will warned off and be threatened with being blacklisted. They wont want any damage done to their reps. Personally im not keen on Lee after his ignorant comments about mjs skin talk about pandering to the establishment.

You may be correct, the media doesn’t want any pro MJ films, because it will expose their laziness and bias. However, do you actually think that they will show any docu that Taj is working on? Spike has more of a chance than he does.

 

[La74]

Some people have to be left to fester in their own s$/# terrell. You are doing your best x

I agree. There will always be haters and we can’t do anything about that but a lot of people do see through this and are open to facts all over the world and we need to focus on them. I read one person who posted that the people in chinese social media are very upset about this documantary and 90 % of the comments were positive for example.

 

[somewhereinthedark]

After mj died spike said he for gave him for not wanting to be black. Seeing as spike sees himself as such a social type activist he was sucked in good and proper by the white and uncle tom agenda

Thank you for posting this. I didn’t know Spike had said that. He is just like a lot in the black community who fell for that crap about Michael.

 

[ILoveHIStory]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

The pedos have made a doc? You mean the director?

The pedos have made a doc? You mean the director?

There are a few things that indicate the connections to the real pedo ring or at least the powerful Hollywood pedo society conspiring to cover their cases up and shut peoples mouths up who would want to have their say against them - Corey and co.


Its not only about Weinstein and president of HBO Richard Plelper, who as the media partners had plenty of projects.

Dan Reed, the director of LN has the history of pedo docs, the LN doc is a pure pedo porn-like doc resembling Victor Guiterrezs pedo scheme known from the previous cases in 1993-2005 by his book that is prohibited in the USA.

People were not shocked from the graphic details, its was just porn (and all the viewers have once watched porn or doing the things at home with partners, they didnt need to hear it, BUT they were to hear about Michael Jackson doing it with a child, and that makes it disgusting when they maybe imagined the acts, that was the goal, consciously make it the worst possible way...)

read this

Considering his comments to the L.A times hunter sounds like those who are members of nambla! Theres always a reason why these ppl are obsessed with abuse.look at the world of wonder production company who did other hatchet jobs on mj

and look at the timeline or the events, Robson for the first time ever made his interview with Matt Lauer, it was him who showed the world the new Wade and then ... Matt tryied to ridicule Coreys statemets and then.... he was accused himself...

and the latest news, that Michael Jacobshagen, he released his book in 2013 praising Mivhael, the very same year of Wades accusations, now both on the opposite side of the river.... but both exposed as mega liars, Jacobshagen has the same patterns of finding the truth out that he was molested because he is a dad now, and he has immediatelly on the phone and with a camera the Mirror guy

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Personally i dont think tajs doc will ever happen. Or certainly not one that will be of much use.Yeah of course a mainstream director will have more chance but i dont think they will get any major channel to touch it with a barge pole or get a director whos prepared to go against the establishment.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

^ someone tell that dummy that Jordy description didnt match and explain that there was more to be lost by stopping promotion for dangerous than giving evan what he was demanding.. and not all of it came from jokes pocket anyways..

Good lord, people are STILL lingering on that, still stuck at that. The fact that there's a recording that can be heard on YouTube from Evan about finding a son of a bitch lawyer, making Michael's life a living helll etc should be enough.

Years ago during the Arvizo case I started reading the walls of text from those MJ innocent sites. These people really should do the same but no way in hell will they do that. Too much reading, too much work for a person they would love to believe is guilty as hell. Simply the link to that recording should shut these people up. It's clear as day how MJ was framed.

I think in the past I saw several videos of Aroon Carter talking privately with a person and telling him that Michael gave him wine at 14 and that one day he found him in his bed or something like that. Then he said that the journalists had said it but I remember seeing that video, look today and I found a couple of short videos of the video that I saw. I share it so that they see it ... then why did he say that the media had invented it if videos come out where he is seen saying it or being heard? I do not understand anything, he left behind when he saw the media impact he had and he denied everything or what happened?

https://youtu.be/NLg0gn7h2fA

That dude really isn't the most trustworthy then, damn.

Spike was ignorant like a lot of people until he actually met Michael. Spike turned into a fawning fan after that.

Except that he still said he forgave MJ, after his passing. Come on, how Spike? Really disappointing. It really isn't too hard to see what was really going on. Hell, didn't he watch the interview with Oprah? Saying shit like that is no better than what these haters say. I remember being on this hiphop board years ago and the ignorance of people about MJ and his skin. Even with Crystal clear pictures of vitiligo they still denied it. How?

 

[terrell]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Some people have to be left to fester in their own s$/# terrell. You are doing your best x

No, people like that are often hiding their own demons and using Jackson and other to reflect off it. I bet most of those people are pedo, did something sexual in some way to someone else, jealous of MJ success because they did not make it to be successful, etc. It never fails. I think most people try to be fair minded but when you have people like this, there is something else. Some media does it for $$$$$$$ even if they know it is BS. And anyone who is questioning fans and the facts we have YEt they wont question two PROVEN liars who got on a stand, that tell you something about their motive.

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

True look at reeds comments about child rape. Sounds like someone from nambla

 

[terrell]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Id trust spike with it, and because of the movement in giving black directors the credit they deserve has been on a rise - it would get good attention with his name behind it.

He is a trusted director!

Plus he worked with MJ.

 

[PoP]

What the ****, seriously? The tabloids completely made that up? I honestly wasn't aware of that and had been hating on Aaron ever since.

Yes. I was surprised when I learned it some months ago or so that Aaron was “misquotate” regarding that Michael and he did cocaine to which he said they did not do that. He was on my H8T list, but because I learned it was made up, I removed Aaron from the list. He was not amused to learn that they made it all up to get him to go against Michael.

 

[IMWhizzle]

They just showed an item about this awful documentary on a Dutch program called “RTL Boulevards”. It was not good, the presenter told the viewer that he wouldn’t listen to Michael’s music anymore, because of the details told in the documentary.

It’s starting all over again. The third time. Michael Jackson’s career could be boycotted by the mass audience because of this.

 

[ILoveHIStory]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

No point creating a docu if you cant get anyone to aire it . you think any major network will give a "pro" mj docu airtime when theres a obvious major lynch mob agenda by the establishment to destroy mj.i doubt any big time director will get involved as they will warned off and be threatened with being blacklisted. They wont want any damage done to their reps. Personally im not keen on Lee after his ignorant comments about mjs skin talk about pandering to the establishment.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE INTERNET, more poeple are online than watching TVs, if such a doc was released or had a really strong background with details and facts, the online world can give a f*** to all TVs in the USA and sooner or later it would be on TVs, but hey, the USA are not the whole world, TVs in Europe or Asia do not have that anti-jackson agenda

Yeah but one is totally rigged. I posted over 15 post in responsed to those ignore fools and none of mine are posted. I will take that site with a grain of salt. They do not want the truth. I think those are Radaronline and others. One poster is even judging fans for spreading the word. That makes me know some people are trying to bring down MJ on purpose. It wont work. Like we said, this will blow over and those haters can hate all they want. MJ is going to be loved, played, admire, etc even when his haters are dead and gone. MJ will live on forever. As I keep saying hollowing wolves will make the noise at the moon but the moon is still high and shining bright EVERYDAY and the wolves go away.

you should CHANGE your profile/account, or have a few other accounts, your name can be blocked.
I changed mine, I was blocked on Discuss, I created another and I can post, I use FB, G+ or Discuss profiles... if one doesnt work, the other works
The haters have a few profiles and doing the same, spamming the comments...

 

[ILoveHIStory]

Re: Sundance Festival 2019 - Controversial MJ Documentary "Leaving Neverland"

Personally i dont think tajs doc will ever happen. Or certainly not one that will be of much use.Yeah of course a mainstream director will have more chance but i dont think they will get any major channel to touch it with a barge pole or get a director whos prepared to go against the establishment.

dont forget about the rebuttal against LWMJ, the Take Two ...., the problem is that the Estate has to be involved

 

[terrell]

They just showed an item about this awful documentary on a Dutch program called “RTL Boulevards”. It was not good, the presenter told the viewer that he wouldn’t listen to Michael’s music anymore, because of the details told in the documentary.

It’s starting all over again. The third time. Michael Jackson’s career could be boycotted by the mass audience because of this.

Can you send stuff to that presenter or email.? And if anyone tries to boycott MJ music (Which I doubt) due to THIS doc, it will be a price to pay at least not here in America. Too much again these guys. Even now, Bill Cosby show was put back on to be played because the feeling in the community is that Cosby can go to jail but Trump can be President both for saying stuff on tape. MJ was more innocent than anyone.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

They just showed an item about this awful documentary on a Dutch program called “RTL Boulevards”. It was not good, the presenter told the viewer that he wouldn’t listen to Michael’s music anymore, because of the details told in the documentary.

It’s starting all over again. The third time. Michael Jackson’s career could be boycotted by the mass audience because of this.

Oh, shit. That's the program my stepfather also watches. But isn't that program usually only during weekdays and not the weekend? I'm gonna talk to him tomorrow and it wouldn't surprise me if he brings this up again. I was so happy Dutch TV hadn't covered it yet, but here we are. Sigh.

As for the person during that show that said he won't listen to his music anymore, if you're swayed that easily without even doing even a LITTLE research...... than just buzz off. I mean we have tons of people on Twitter that use their minds and they haven't even seen the doc yet, neither have these RTL Boulevard bozos.... don't jump to any conclusions idiots.

 

[dmehta]

They just showed an item about this awful documentary on a Dutch program called “RTL Boulevards”. It was not good, the presenter told the viewer that he wouldn’t listen to Michael’s music anymore, because of the details told in the documentary.

It’s starting all over again. The third time. Michael Jackson’s career could be boycotted by the mass audience because of this.

This is why the Estate has to start being much more proactive and aggressive in getting the facts out there. Wade and Jimmy are being treated like brave “survivors” when they’re nothing more than opportunistic liars. Do most people who have heard about this doc even know that they filed lawsuits looking for money and lost? Are they aware of all of Wade’s previous comments over the last 25 years?