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Lightbringer said:
The mysterious ways of the FRAUD himself Michael Jacobshagen continues....

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What do you mean by "the mysterious ways"? Are you saying this is a fake post - not created by The Michael Jackson Innocent Project, but instead by Jacobshagen?? Because I can tell you it is NOT a fake post. Michael Jacobshagen has spoken to me, one-on-one as well, in messenger on Facebook. I have also listened in on a very long (messenger) phone conversation between him and two Admins of a Facebook group to which he (and I) belong. Everything written in this post above, is basically the same as what he said in that phone conversation. The story about him claiming sexual abuse is completely made up.....he said he never spoke to The Sun and never said any such thing. The Sun copied his photo from an old story in The Mirror and attached all kinds if other meanings to it. He has never been to Neverland.....MJ invited him to go, but it just never happened. He saw Michael many more times than once.

I have said this before and I'll say it again......I think fans should be very, very careful about being too quick to believe tabloid stories about people from Michael's life, when we KNOW how much garbage they have written about Michael over the years. If they fabricate nonsense about MJ, chances are they fabricate it about others, as well. Why doesn't they sue the tabloids, you ask? It isn't as easy as we might think. It takes time, it takes money....it's one person against a massive media web. Even 3T withdrew their lawsuit against Radar Online.
 
Mikky Dee said:
What do you mean by "the mysterious ways"? Are you saying this is a fake post - not created by The Michael Jackson Innocent Project, but instead by Jacobshagen?? Because I can tell you it is NOT a fake post. Michael Jacobshagen has spoken to me, one-on-one as well, in messenger on Facebook. I have also listened in on a very long (messenger) phone conversation between him and two Admins of a Facebook group to which he (and I) belong. Everything written in this post above, is basically the same as what he said in that phone conversation. The story about him claiming sexual abuse is completely made up.....he said he never spoke to The Sun and never said any such thing. The Sun copied his photo from an old story in The Mirror and attached all kinds if other meanings to it. He has never been to Neverland.....MJ invited him to go, but it just never happened. He saw Michael many more times than once.

I have said this before and I'll say it again......I think fans should be very, very careful about being too quick to believe tabloid stories about people from Michael's life, when we KNOW how much garbage they have written about Michael over the years. If they fabricate nonsense about MJ, chances are they fabricate it about others, as well. Why doesn't they sue the tabloids, you ask? It isn't as easy as we might think. It takes time, it takes money....it's one person against a massive media web. Even 3T withdrew their lawsuit against Radar Online.
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My comment was about Jacobshagens mysterious ways....not directed to anyone else.

The story on Jacobshagens was a COMPLETE DISASTER. The whole article was a DISASTER. If the papers made that up, Jacobshagen should go out publicly and say so! He should even go to the police. If Jacobshagen were a real Michael Jackson fan he would not accept to be listed as victim number 3 FOREVER and do nothing about it.

We know that Jacobshagen have sold fake autographs for insane amounts, so he has lied and fooled fans. Why should we believe him now? Why could he not have sold out Michael now when the time was right? Jumping on the bandwagon of Leaving Neverland to make quick money.

Jacobshagen obviously are fine with putting the final nail in Michaels coffin, thanks to him this is what MJFacts and the haters now can put up - the damage is irreversible! And with every name added, it will be more difficult to defend MJ, just because of the AMOUNT of boys - you hear the argument, "so many boys can not be lying" etc.

If Jacobshagen went out and MADE A REAL FUSS about this, it could actually help Michael, if people were made aware of just how horrible the media can be, making things up completely. By doing nothing, Jacobshagen is actively ruining Michaels legacy!

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So he accuses Michael now, or it's a rumor ?
 
he sold the story to the sun 100%. how can you even doubt that? otherwise yes, he would jump and go legal steps against the sun.
 
Mikky Dee;4241861 said:
What do you mean by "the mysterious ways"? Are you saying this is a fake post - not created by The Michael Jackson Innocent Project, but instead by Jacobshagen?? Because I can tell you it is NOT a fake post. Michael Jacobshagen has spoken to me, one-on-one as well, in messenger on Facebook. I have also listened in on a very long (messenger) phone conversation between him and two Admins of a Facebook group to which he (and I) belong. Everything written in this post above, is basically the same as what he said in that phone conversation. The story about him claiming sexual abuse is completely made up.....he said he never spoke to The Sun and never said any such thing. The Sun copied his photo from an old story in The Mirror and attached all kinds if other meanings to it. He has never been to Neverland.....MJ invited him to go, but it just never happened. He saw Michael many more times than once.

I have said this before and I'll say it again......I think fans should be very, very careful about being too quick to believe tabloid stories about people from Michael's life, when we KNOW how much garbage they have written about Michael over the years. If they fabricate nonsense about MJ, chances are they fabricate it about others, as well. Why doesn't they sue the tabloids, you ask? It isn't as easy as we might think. It takes time, it takes money....it's one person against a massive media web. Even 3T withdrew their lawsuit against Radar Online.
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Oh man.

Jacobshagen is part of a new comdemning TV special about Michael. SUNDAY NIGHTS TRUE STORIES

He is ON CAMERA MAKING THESE ACCUSATIONS for craps sake.

Do you still believe him now, when he repeats the same lies on camera? Do you believe the TV-crew set him up? WHY IS HE EVEN TALKING TO NEWSPAPERS AND TV?

I am speechless. I dont advocate violence, but someone should have given him a beating instead of defending him!

Whats interesting is that Jacobshagen looks equally distressed when lying about Michael Jackson than what he did when he was caught on camera lying about selling fake autographs for 30 000 EURO.

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Mikky Dee said:
What do you mean by "the mysterious ways"? Are you saying this is a fake post - not created by The Michael Jackson Innocent Project, but instead by Jacobshagen?? Because I can tell you it is NOT a fake post. Michael Jacobshagen has spoken to me, one-on-one as well, in messenger on Facebook. I have also listened in on a very long (messenger) phone conversation between him and two Admins of a Facebook group to which he (and I) belong. Everything written in this post above, is basically the same as what he said in that phone conversation. The story about him claiming sexual abuse is completely made up.....he said he never spoke to The Sun and never said any such thing. The Sun copied his photo from an old story in The Mirror and attached all kinds if other meanings to it. He has never been to Neverland.....MJ invited him to go, but it just never happened. He saw Michael many more times than once.

I have said this before and I'll say it again......I think fans should be very, very careful about being too quick to believe tabloid stories about people from Michael's life, when we KNOW how much garbage they have written about Michael over the years. If they fabricate nonsense about MJ, chances are they fabricate it about others, as well. Why doesn't they sue the tabloids, you ask? It isn't as easy as we might think. It takes time, it takes money....it's one person against a massive media web. Even 3T withdrew their lawsuit against Radar Online.
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Oh no this didn't age well lol.
 
Mikky Dee said:
What do you mean by "the mysterious ways"? Are you saying this is a fake post - not created by The Michael Jackson Innocent Project, but instead by Jacobshagen?? Because I can tell you it is NOT a fake post. Michael Jacobshagen has spoken to me, one-on-one as well, in messenger on Facebook. I have also listened in on a very long (messenger) phone conversation between him and two Admins of a Facebook group to which he (and I) belong. Everything written in this post above, is basically the same as what he said in that phone conversation. The story about him claiming sexual abuse is completely made up.....he said he never spoke to The Sun and never said any such thing. The Sun copied his photo from an old story in The Mirror and attached all kinds if other meanings to it. He has never been to Neverland.....MJ invited him to go, but it just never happened. He saw Michael many more times than once.

I have said this before and I'll say it again......I think fans should be very, very careful about being too quick to believe tabloid stories about people from Michael's life, when we KNOW how much garbage they have written about Michael over the years. If they fabricate nonsense about MJ, chances are they fabricate it about others, as well. Why doesn't they sue the tabloids, you ask? It isn't as easy as we might think. It takes time, it takes money....it's one person against a massive media web. Even 3T withdrew their lawsuit against Radar Online.
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Are you sure you have spoken to him ?
He will appear on TV, it's a fact.
But you talking to him it can be a lie.
The Michael Jackson's Innocence Project, can't defend MJ by creating fake conversation, fans too.
 
OK folks, listen up.

We know Jacobshagen is going to feature on the same piece of TV-show as Jermaine and La Toya on sunday.

In this video which exposed Jacobshagen for selling fake MJ autographs, Jermaine is furious about Jacobshagen fooling fans and making money of MJs brand etc.

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Do you think Jermaine remembers Jacobshagen, and if he does, would he not have established for the TV channel that the MJ autographed items Jacobshagen is showing them are false? O

Or do you think the TV channel has made an interview with Jermaine WITHOUT him knowing the identity of Jacobshagen, maybe just saying he is a new accuser? This is quite important I think, since Jermaine has a history with the frauds of Jacobshagen.

The worst case would be that Jermaine has forgotten about Jacobshagen and have missed the chance save Michael and nail the friggin con-artist Jacobshagen!
 
I'm kind of out of the loop with this drama....so let me get this straight.

This Michael Jacobshagen guy, was a fan and a supporter of Michael Jackson who wrote a book about how he met MJ on the HIStory tour, was caught selling fake MJ memorabilia after he died, was caught doing it by both the fans and the Jackson family, then claimed this year in The Sun that MJ diddled him, he THEN denies ever saying such a thing to a MJ fan group on facebook, but NOW he's appearing on an Australian 2020-esque show saying that MJ diddled him?

What in the ever loving hell is wrong with this guy?
 
It doesn't matter what Jocobshagen is saying now.
This interview with King Jordan and his book will it easyly exposed it as a damm lie:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kingjo...hagen-mjs-freind-author-will-you-be-my-freind

I guess its very good for us when he coming forward and lies now cause it gives Wade, James and the media less credibilty when LN aires.
They make such a fool out of them. I belive it will shut up Dine Dimand directly this time.
YouTuber should prepare a rebuttle video about Jocobshagen.
Maybe we can find somewhere other inderviews from 2013/14 where he defended MJ and said nothing did ever happen to him cause he said in the King Jordan Interview that he gave a few during this time.
Ah..and there are a few things which exposes that he also made up stories about MJ and him like Wade and many others in that interview cause he said there he saw him the last time in 1999 and played with him Nintendo DS during some of their meetings but the Nintendo DS was first relesed in 2004!
He also said that he celebrates with MJ Princes second brirthday in 1998 but this can't also be true cause prince was born in 1997.
 
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Lightbringer said:
Oh man.

Jacobshagen is part of a new comdemning TV special about Michael. SUNDAY NIGHTS TRUE STORIES

He is ON CAMERA MAKING THESE ACCUSATIONS for craps sake.

Do you still believe him now, when he repeats the same lies on camera? Do you believe the TV-crew set him up? WHY IS HE EVEN TALKING TO NEWSPAPERS AND TV?
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If you notice in the advertisement for the "Sunday Night True Stories" show - he is on camera saying "Michael put his arm around me". That is a sound bite that has been taken out of context and used in the ad to make people think he is saying something negative. Him saying that Michael put his arm around him is not negative. In the phone conversation that I heard, he said the same thing....that the only thing Michael ever did was put his arm around him. He emphatically said that he was never touched by Michael in a sexual way. I will reserve judgement until I see the entire show and see what he is saying in the show, but him saying that Michael put his arm around him is NOT him saying that Michael molested him! I do not believe that he is another accuser of Michael. The other sound bite, where he says "he crossed the line", I will BET MONEY that it is referring to someone else that he is talking about in the interview, not Michael and it's just been cleverly used to create sensationalism, which is what these networks are good at doing. They want people to watch their show and they don't care how they get them to tune in and do just that.

How many times have you watched a show, because of the trailer, only to discover that it turned out to be nothing like what was in the trailer. How many times have you read an article or checked out a magazine story because of the headline and then find out that the actual details were vastly different from what you thought based on the headline. I know it has happened a lot to me.

I am not defending Michael Jacobshagen, or making excuses for any of his actions in the past. I am not friends with the guy....I don't know him and I am not emotionally invested in anything he says or does. I am just letting people know that I DID hear him speak about these things in a phone conversation and I am sharing what I heard. Watch the trailer for the Sunday Night True Stories show again and see for yourself what he's saying - there is nothing accusatory at all.
 
1nn5 said:
Are you sure you have spoken to him ?
He will appear on TV, it's a fact.
But you talking to him it can be a lie.
The Michael Jackson's Innocence Project, can't defend MJ by creating fake conversation, fans too.
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I listened in on an interview/conversation, with other people speaking to him. I am not lying. Why, as a Michael Jackson fan, would I have a reason to lie about this? The Michael Jackson Innocence Project isn't lying. It is not a fake conversation - why would anyone be bothered to create that transcript, in order to speak up for Jacobshagen? Jacobshagen said the same things in that conversation that he said in the one I heard.

It is a fact that he will be shown in a TV show, yes. BUT was he interviewed recently for that show, or will the show just be televising snippets and sound-bites that it has copied from another show, or another interview, that was done at another time...possibly a couple of years ago? We won't know until the show goes to air. As I said, I will reserve judgement until I see what HE (and other people say) on the show. I know for a fact that the snippets of Conrad Murray are not recent....they are from the interview that he did with 60 Minutes a couple of years ago. This show could quite easily be a cut-and-paste job with very little recent or new material added..
 
1nn5 said:
So he accuses Michael now, or it's a rumor ?
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I have heard him say (with my own ears) that Michael never did anything to him and that he did not speak to The Sun. He said The Sun created the recent story that he is a new accuser and that the photograph they used was from a previous old article in The Mirror. That is all I am trying to convey. There is no way of knowing whether he is lying or telling the truth, but he sounded very emphatic and believable to me and it was his choice to speak with us, after we reached out to him and asked him to explain himself. He could have easily ignored us, if he wanted to. By the way, he also said that he does have a lot of things that Michael gave to him - masks, shirts, hats, signed photos, books, etc....it's just that fans don't believe that he has them, nor do they believe that he saw MJ as many times as he did. "Not believing" is something fans are horrible for, I have noticed that - yet, they jump to embrace what is being said in a TRAILER for a sensationalistic Sunday night story show and call it fact. It's a serious double standard, in my opinion.
 
Mikky Dee said:
I have heard him say (with my own ears) that Michael never did anything to him and that he did not speak to The Sun. He said The Sun created the recent story that he is a new accuser and that the photograph they used was from a previous old article in The Mirror. That is all I am trying to convey. There is no way of knowing whether he is lying or telling the truth, but he sounded very emphatic and believable to me and it was his choice to speak with us, after we reached out to him and asked him to explain himself. He could have easily ignored us, if he wanted to. By the way, he also said that he does have a lot of things that Michael gave to him - masks, shirts, hats, signed photos, books, etc.....It's just that fans don't believe that he has them, nor do they believe that he saw MJ as many times as he did. "Not believing" is something fans are horrible for, I have noticed that - yet, they jump to embrace what is being said in a TRAILER for a sensationalistic Sunday night story show and call it fact. It's a serious double standard, in my opinion.
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For me, now he's like Wade.
You appear in a interview speaking about MJ like that, so you are not defending him.
 
Mikky Dee said:
Explain??
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I feel quite sad how you don't see how he was taking advantage of MJ fans by selling autographs that HE created posing them as Michael, but hey Michael crossed the line when he put his arms around him, I'm quite interested now to see this documentary to see everything he said.
 
We should really wait til we have seen this interview!
But maybe someone should send the TV station where it airs the King Jordan Interview and the Akte 2017 video with subtitles to educate them.
I have the feeling that Jocobshagen is somone what can be called a "notorious Liar".
 
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Mikky Dee said:
I have heard him say (with my own ears) that Michael never did anything to him and that he did not speak to The Sun. He said The Sun created the recent story that he is a new accuser and that the photograph they used was from a previous old article in The Mirror. That is all I am trying to convey. There is no way of knowing whether he is lying or telling the truth, but he sounded very emphatic and believable to me and it was his choice to speak with us, after we reached out to him and asked him to explain himself. He could have easily ignored us, if he wanted to. By the way, he also said that he does have a lot of things that Michael gave to him - masks, shirts, hats, signed photos, books, etc.....It's just that fans don't believe that he has them, nor do they believe that he saw MJ as many times as he did. "Not believing" is something fans are horrible for, I have noticed that - yet, they jump to embrace what is being said in a TRAILER for a sensationalistic Sunday night story show and call it fact. It's a serious double standard, in my opinion.
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Do you believe author of this article also made it all up without speaking to Jacobshagen?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-called-rubba-rubba-13912812
 
Lightbringer said:
Do you believe author of this article also made it all up without speaking to Jacobshagen?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/michael-jackson-called-rubba-rubba-13912812
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Jacobshagen is a forger and has defrauded many fans. The copy of 'The boy' that he is touting, which has a dedication by MJ to 'My Rubba Rubba friend' is a forged dedication with a forged MJ signature.

Jacobshagen has undoubtedly given the press the opportunity to believe that MJ behaved inappropriately with him. There is no excusing his behaviour.
 
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myosotis;4242354 said:
A pity to get fans to keep clicking on their trailers. (This is for Channel 7 Australia) I'd prefer not to give them clicks, it's what they want. :(
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Agree. I wish people wouldn&#8217;t just post links without giving an explanation of what it is.
 
There's a longer clip from that Australian show on Twitter today. (Themorningshow@morningshowon7).

In it, the presenter says that Jacobshagen has 'love letters, and a book. He's wooing him. He talks about sleepovers at Neverland, and in the jacuzzi. Most of these letters have never been seen before. They talk about a deep love'. The presenters say his story is 'devastating; there are things that fill you with horror'.

I've no doubt that the 'horror and devastation is exaggerated, but there is no mistaking that Jacobshagen's appearance on this TV programme will add another 'nail' to Michael's coffin. (Even though fans know this is all untrue, the public will lap it up).

The same programme will include 'Security Guard Melanie Bagnall' talking about 'horrifying things she saw'. Also Jermaine and LaToya.
 
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King Jordan Radio - Michael Jacobshagen ,MJ's Freind ,Author Will You be my Freind

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/kingjo...hagen-mjs-freind-author-will-you-be-my-freind

As a child Michael Jacobshagen spent time on the move with Michael Jackson. He met Michael Jackson the first time 1995 in Paris, the beginning of a friendship that stretched over years. They visited the famous Circus Krone in Munich, stayed 1998 two weeks in that city, went shopping and spent private time together in hotel suites and elsewhere. When Michael Jackson roamed Europe on his legendary 1997 History Tour, he invited the 13 year old Michael Jacobshagen time and again to various cities his concerts took place in. Now, 16 years later, Michael Jacobshagen lets other fans participate and talks for the first time in detail about his marvelous experiences with Michael Jackson in a profoundly open and personal manner. Among the stories: how they became friends in Munich, played hide and seek, threw water balloons to the fans outside and went on shopping tours.
 
Michael Jocobshagen said in that King Jordan Interview from 2013 that HE NEVER VISITED NEVERLAND!!!
The TV Station must really listen to this interview and to Akte 2017 Exposing part!!!
I think the King Jordan interview must be upload on YouTube, full and in an edited version with the most important parts.
Someone should also contact Jobshagens doctors cause I think he is a notrious Liar or has some other serious problems.
Its really craaazy what is gonig on in these days and weeks
A Fight against windmills. And only because of the media hate doing their Job to research when in comes to Michael Jackson.
I think its all a big conspiricy. Maybe all these people are hiared since 2013 from poweful MJ enemys maybe NAMBLA Members.
The media wanna realy destroy MJ compleatly.
It whould be interesting how much money Jocobshagen, the maid and other people get for telling all these storys.
 
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1nn5 said:
even the fans contradict themselves, on the one hand they say that he met Michael for the first time in 1998, and on the other side they say that " As a child Michael Jacobshagen spent time on the move with Michael Jackson. He met Michael Jackson the first time 1995 in Paris ".

Fans should stop making stories that contradict each other.
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First, I am not saying your wrong.

But what parts of Jacobshagens story is CORROBORATED/PROVEN?

We know Jacobshagen on Jordan King in 2014 says CLEARLY he never has been at Neverland. And then in the show now on sunday I believe he is speaking about jacuzzi and baths at neverland. We know he is a con-man and serial liar since has sold fake autographs for over 30 000 EURO by fooling MJ fans. And has been pursued by police in germany for it.

Everything also points to him being part of the "setup" with the art book, and possible faking MJs signatures to PROVE his claims in the documentary.

He has lied to fans NON-STOP since coming out as Michaels "new accuser".
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With all that said, what parts of Jacobshagens story is actually VERIFIED by PROOF? He claims to have been on 40 history tour concerts with Michael etc.
Is there confirmation that everything he is saying in Jordan King Radios interview is true? So far I have seen zero evidence he was on the history tour with Michael.

I dont say it did not happen, but since he lies about everything and sells everyone out, why should I take his word for anything he says?
 
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