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Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

When a person says all the ridiculous shit that Wade has said, changed his story so many times and LIED so many times.... I can't take anything seriously anymore from that person.

In other words... I don't give a flying f@ck what a piece of crap like that has to say. Not sure why some people still care. If you're not in the know about the facts and you watch that filth... yeah sure. But if you know it all? Hell naw.
 
I'm sure they made every possible check to ensure they couldn't get touched.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
When a person says all the ridiculous shit that Wade has said, changed his story so many times and LIED so many times.... I can't take anything seriously anymore from that person.

In other words... I don't give a flying f@ck what a piece of crap like that has to say. Not sure why some people still care. If you're not in the know about the facts and you watch that filth... yeah sure. But if you know it all? Hell naw.
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As is said in court "if you found that they have lied about one thing then you have the right to disregard the rest of their testimony"

Its all about credibility and they have none
 
I find it unbelievable and a good example of how ****ed up this world is that the estate can't sue on the facts that they are using Michael's music and clips, what about copyright? Some game companies CAN demand YouTubers to pull videos of games and what not because it's copyrighted. So why can't the estate when it comes to the music and videos?

Not only that, a friend of mine asked me today, if they said something under oath or lied under oath, isn't that punishable by law? Surely there are consequences for these guys?
 
aqwsz said:
I think it's really convenient for Wade to say that MJ liked to keep his relationships with kids seperate. Because that means he literally has no clue that Michael also had sex with other kids.

But somebody should back up if it's true that he had different kids around him every 12 months because that's what is being claimed in the film, that would be idd suspicious behavior.
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It's clear that fame/money hungry parents were throwing their children at Michael and Michael was too kind to not give them that attention.
 
I noticed that Dan Reed uses also stuff from the man who uploaded this neverland video over 1 or two years ago from his visit together with a group of people.
Somone posted the video some days ago and the explaination from him about the video.
Does someone remember which video I mean?
The man rushed so fast to the rooms because has not so much time to film.
Maybe Dan Reed was there the same day as this man was there.
 
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Everyone who I know that watched it simply says afterward that MJ was a very odd character but not a pedophile.
 
dam2040 said:
Everyone who I know that watched it simply says afterward that MJ was a very odd character but not a pedophile.
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Sorry .... but I take nothing as serious and nothing as truth they told in this mokementary.
Its a scripted movie for me about sick peodophatasies not a film about Michael!
But nobody semes to belive me that NAMBLA is behind LN!
 
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Does anyone have any info on Latoya and her little stunt in 1993?
 
I'm on the second part but I find it all very boring, the film needed some massive editing.
 
dam2040 said:
Does anyone have any info on Latoya and her little stunt in 1993?
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The short summary is that she later claimed she was put up to it by her abusive husband Jack Gordon who she has since got away from and retracted all the things she said. Michael forgave her and they were on good terms for the rest of his life.

Of course the media are now dragging it back up as 'unearthed footage' (despite being widely available on YouTube for years and years)in order to try and make it look like not all the family supports him.
 
AG5050 said:
The short summary is that she later claimed she was put up to it by her abusive husband Jack Gordon who she has since got away from and retracted all the things she said. Michael forgave her and they were on good terms for the rest of his life.

Of course the media are now dragging it back up as 'unearthed footage' (despite being widely available on YouTube for years and years)in order to try and make it look like not all the family supports him.
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Oh yeah, I knew all that. Just wondered if there was any resources to use when defending MJ
 
Speed_Demon87;4247477 said:
I think the documentary does use emotional manipulation to shock viewers into feeling sorry for the victims.

I was very aware of the fact that these Robson and Safechuck tried to sue the estate for millions and that Robson suddenly came out with these allegations after being rejected for the cirque show.

Hearing such graphic and detailed information regarding specific sexual encounters really shocked me and made me feel physically sick and the images of Michael doing these to these young children at the time really stuck in my head. This was despite the fact that I had already knew what stuff was gonna be in this.

I won’t lie and say that I think Michael is innocent, even though I’ve defended him up until this period. But I’m desperately looking for reassurance that this was simply made up rubbish for money. I guess I’ll forever be left with that question?

I’m also feeling extremely sad that the reputation of Michael is now in dispute once again and it’s like we’re back to square on.

Someone mentioned earlier today about hearing Liberian Girl in an Indian restaurant and it brought back so many great memories of a holiday I had years ago in my early days of being a fan (2001) buying the Bad album the night before my holiday and being mesmerised by each song while enjoying myself in the sun, songs like Liberian Girl and Another Part of Me I was hearing for the first time and I became an even bigger fan.

I don’t really care too much about what people think of me on here but I still love the man and the music. My head is just all over the place currently.
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The best thing you can do is take a step back for a few days, stay offline and just take a break from it all. It's an intense time to be a Michael fan. You may never get all the answers and reassurance you personally feel you need to be 100% sure.

Just take a step back and get some perspective on how this really affects you and your life outside of being a Michael fan, its not good for our mental health to obsessive over this without a break.
 
was james safechuck charged for 150k or something years ago? read about it on twitter eaelier today but cant find it anymore.
 
AG5050 said:
The best thing you can do is take a step back for a few days, stay offline and just take a break from it all. It's an intense time to be a Michael fan. You may never get all the answers and reassurance you personally feel you need to be 100% sure.

Just take a step back and get some perspective on how this really affects you and your life outside of being a Michael fan, its not good for our mental health to obsessive over this without a break.
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Yeah and when you are back please finally use the doubts threads!
 
Some songs to request on Canadian and New Zealand radio:

Eaten Alive and Muscles by Diana Ross
You Haven't Done Nothing by Stevie Wonder
State of Independence by Donna Summer
 
Speed_Demon87;4247477 said:
I think the documentary does use emotional manipulation to shock viewers into feeling sorry for the victims.

I was very aware of the fact that these Robson and Safechuck tried to sue the estate for millions and that Robson suddenly came out with these allegations after being rejected for the cirque show.

Hearing such graphic and detailed information regarding specific sexual encounters really shocked me and made me feel physically sick and the images of Michael doing these to these young children at the time really stuck in my head. This was despite the fact that I had already knew what stuff was gonna be in this.

I won’t lie and say that I think Michael is innocent, even though I’ve defended him up until this period. But I’m desperately looking for reassurance that this was simply made up rubbish for money. I guess I’ll forever be left with that question?

I’m also feeling extremely sad that the reputation of Michael is now in dispute once again and it’s like we’re back to square on.

Someone mentioned earlier today about hearing Liberian Girl in an Indian restaurant and it brought back so many great memories of a holiday I had years ago in my early days of being a fan (2001) buying the Bad album the night before my holiday and being mesmerised by each song while enjoying myself in the sun, songs like Liberian Girl and Another Part of Me I was hearing for the first time and I became an even bigger fan.

I don’t really care too much about what people think of me on here but I still love the man and the music. My head is just all over the place currently.
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Again, I seriously don't understand if you are in the know about these two guys that you can't believe in Michael or have doubts. When people have lied multiple times under oath, stories with different versions and full of contradictions and actual proof WHY Wade is doing this. Also proof why James is doing this......what more do you want and is realistic to expect? The man himself is gone but all the facts are fully in his favor. Again I ask you.....

If you've been abused, which is horrible in itself, WHY in God's name would you have several different versions of your story and not just ONE? I am willing to bet that actual abuse victims just have one story, probably neither sue for millions and they actually ARE out for justice. Wade and James really are NOT!

Hey, not to mention the whole "oh shit, the money is low, estate doesn't want me for the show, **** you guys I will publish a book, nope not working, ima sue the estate. And James was being sued himself, TONS of reasons to join Wade's bitch ass.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
Again, I seriously don't understand if you are in the know about these two guys that you can't believe in Michael or have doubts. When people have lied multiple times under oath, stories with different versions and full of contradictions and actual proof WHY Wade is doing this. Also proof why James is doing this......what more do you want and is realistic to expect? The man himself is gone but all the facts are fully in his favor. Again I ask you.....

If you've been abused, which is horrible in itself, WHY in God's name would you have several different versions of your story and not just ONE? I am willing to bet that actual abuse victims just have one story, probably neither sue for millions and they actually ARE out for justice. Wade and James really are NOT!

Hey, not to mention the whole "oh shit, the money is low, estate doesn't want me for the show, **** you guys I will publish a book, nope not working, ima sue the estate. And James was being sued himself, TONS of reasons to join Wade's bitch ass.
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Yip,every single issue surrounding these allegations right back to Chandler have one thing in common and it's not abuse.....its money.
 
aqwsz said:
I think it's really convenient for Wade to say that MJ liked to keep his relationships with kids seperate. Because that means he literally has no clue that Michael also had sex with other kids.

But somebody should back up if it's true that he had different kids around him every 12 months because that's what is being claimed in the film, that would be idd suspicious behavior.
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When you listen to MJs Oxford speach or the part or the part of LWMJ where he talkes about that it is so saaaaaaaad that children don't eat with their mothers and fathers anymore he will do everthing to help and repair the bounds between children and parents the part is totally unbeliveable.
The oxfort speach and this segment of LWMJ is great to use in a rebuttle against this argument!

Again Leving Neverland is not about Michael!
You should doubt anything in LN and take nothing as the truth when you have strong doubts that the main story about MJ abused Wade and James is true!
When you have strong doubts in this you can also have doubts in everything else they are telling you AND showing in LN!
I mean watch and listen this Dan Reed!
Then listen to Michel....
You will find many diferences between them!
And only one of them is the good guy! STILL!
AND I like to add: Only one is the pervert criminal and Child molester!
 
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Anyone in Holland watched the panel that they were gonna have? I would like to know if they had maybe one person in there with knowledge about the two subjects or if they were basically all... well.... sheep?
 
Today for the first time I feel like we are winning. Based off just my Twitter I'd say it's about 70% positive to 30% negative. Some polls I've seen reflect that.
 
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