Controversial MJ Documentary Leaving Neverland [GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD]

Did That POS DBAG loser Dan Reed heavily edit the film now so it's 3 hours so he could take out all of his f*** ups?

LOL my god. The guy actually IS as DUMB AS HE LOOKS
Channel 4 shows commercials. This is not unusual for something to be edited down. I dont think this is as big as people are making out. Bad 25 was edited for TV, are people forgetting that?

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My Opinion : Taj should have the help of the Estate, Estate lawyers have all documents about trials. You can't make a doucumentary with Jermaine Jackson talking.
For me, I prefer that his documentary being like a " Law Documentary".
Why not inviting Judges from the
2005 trial.

Taj said that it's because someone at the Estate was part of the 1993 lawsuit, so maybe the people working for the Estate would be legally prohibited from producing a documentary about 1993, just like Michael was not allowed to speak about the 1993 allegations?
 
Taj said that it's because someone at the Estate was part of the 1993 lawsuit, so maybe the people working for the Estate would be legally prohibited from producing a documentary about 1993, just like Michael was not allowed to speak about the 1993 allegations?

They are not allowed to speak, but not to help to make a documentary. They can help without appearing in his doc.
 
You remember this footage?


Why must Wade Robson who had an longtime loving sexual relationship during this time with Michael Jackson buy the Historyalbum on his own?
Why wouldn't his generous lover MJ (who loved to always groom and seduce him and his family) send him a personal free copy of his most personal album?

Seames to me that MJ wasn't his lover in reality and not even care about Wade or their friendship during this time cause he was as a Ladys Man in love with Lisa Marie and wanna seduceing, grooming her in bed all the time!

I remember that friends of Michael and even staff members very often got personal copys from his albums from MJ.
But I don't know if we can proof this.
 
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^ good god i see that old crow in the background. nerve of these mothers tho.
 
Adventist Hermes Justin Wilson is now defaming Michael Jackson, calling him a monster:

Leaving Neverland: Why we should condemn the dead Monster Michael Jackson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ODz-HqUy0

SICK!!! DISGUSTING!!! Another Black person (a minister at that) defaming Michael Jackson in such a horrid manner over false allegations. I can tell he did not bother do his research. Please cancel Justin Wilson!!!

Also... Those old LaToya allegations (about Michael Jackson being a pedophile, molesting children, paying off the parents w/ cheques she claimed to have seen, Michael's mother knowing about it and calling Michael a f** or a f*****) are resurfacing... Some people are now saying LaToya only recanted to get back into the family's good grace.

I just can't wait for Taj's documentary, and I don't think the Estate funding it would be a bad thing. Either way, those who adamantly believe Michael to be guilty will bash Taj's film and call it biased, etc. The sooner he can release it, the better.
 
I have received a reply from Swedish free lance journalist Dan Josefsson who promised to listen to interviews with Brandi, Taj and Charles Thomson. I also sent him Charles email adress.
 
reed is like sneddon

HE IS SICKER THEN SNEDDEN CAUSE REED IS A PERVERT PHYCHOPATH maybe a peodofile!

And sick people doing, produceing and invanting, criminal crazy very unlogical evil staff.
Thats the reson why we can find all this holes and fakes in LN!
His mind doesn't work normal/correct.
He is weidro strange man not Michael!
 
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How long was Wades sister Chantal in Leaving Neverland and what did she say?

According to her old twitter account: https://mobile.twitter.com/chantalrobson
She didn't really support her brother in his accusations!
There are only two posts were she shares a supportive video (from MJvictims) and an artical back in 2014!

No personal statemant about her brother who had the courage to come forward and stand up against his accuser Michael Jackson!

From a sister from a real victim I whould expect muuuuch more public support!
 
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I don't know if anyone has thought about this but... Robson and Safechuck both say the abuse stopped once they got into 13 or 14 years of age. Okay but if I remember right both Jorden and Gavin were 13 or 14 when the alleged abused accrued. Wouldn’t an abuser go after boys in the same age range? I mean even the ages doesn’t really fit. HOW is that explained?
 
HE IS SICKER THEN SNEDDEN CAUSE REED IS A PERVERT PHYCHOPATH maybe a peodofile!

And sick people doing, produceing and invanting, criminal crazy very unlogical evil staff.
Thats the reson why we can find all this holes and fakes in LN!
His mind doesn't work normal/correct.
He is weidro strange man not Michael!


wouldnt suprise me if he is a pedophile!
 
maral;4248421 said:
I don't know if anyone has thought about this but... Robson and Safechuck both say the abuse stopped once they got into 13 or 14 years of age. Okay but if I remember right both Jorden and Gavin were 13 or 14 when the alleged abused accrued. Wouldn’t an abuser go after boys in the same age range? I mean even the ages doesn’t really fit. HOW is that explained?

Yeah ... when he didn't care about what the sexual experinces whould do to the child and how it would hurt them he would start with all the boys in a very young age.
Also MJ was abseesed with babys, ( he said this many times) so it would be logical when ALL his lovers were veeery jung!

But this isn't the case!

All time it its fazinating that nobody mentioned MJs virtilego spots all over his body by describing the detailed grafic sexual acts.
It must have scared a child in this young age who saw MJ becoming a monster on screen in the Thriller video!
He must have looked naked like a very scary cow without make up for a 7 or 10 year old!
A real victim whould remdmber this and mentioned it.
But someone who never really saw MJ naket can forrgot to mention it!

Maybe they know when they start to mention the virtilego, journalists whould start to ask them detailed questions about this but must answer them with a lie and every of Michaels Doctors and strip search fotos can expose them very easy!

Think about this!
 
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Yeah ... when he didn't care about what the sexual experinces whould do to the child and how it would hurt them he would start with all the boys in a very young age.
Also MJ was abseesed with babys, ( he said this many times) so it would be logical when ALL his lovers were veeery jung!

But this isn't the case!

I can see why the general public would watch this crap and think it might be possible. But if one know about these other cases I don't get how one can believe these claimes. For me the age thing is a huge red flag if one think from profiling perspektiv.
 
I have a question because this has been thrown is my face many times while defending MJ. I know he admitted to giving his bed away while he slept on the floor, but is there any evidence or has he mentioned sleeping in bed with anyone? It irks me when they say that because eI don't have a decent comeback, so can anyone help me out?
 
I have a question because this has been thrown is my face many times while defending MJ. I know he admitted to giving his bed away while he slept on the floor, but is there any evidence or has he mentioned sleeping in bed with anyone? It irks me when they say that because eI don't have a decent comeback, so can anyone help me out?

I guess he himself only admitted in the 60 minites interview in 2003 that he selept with Kiren Culkin in one bed.
But later childfriends and many adults admitted that they also slept in the same bed with Michael.
Michael should have never say this.
What he said about sharing his bed with someone in LWMJ and 60 minuites is misinterpretated from people.
He ment this in a religous giving carrying way when he to 98 percent slept on the floor when a child slept in his bed.

I hope it comes to light that the FBI videotaped his bedroom or the entrance of it.
This whould be one of the first things I whould do when I investigate Michael Jackson who is accused of childmolestation!
 
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Received a real nice message from a friend of mine on WhatsApp. He said hang in there and don't let things get to you. Your right is a good fight etc. He can see my tweets on Twitter since he's my only follower. He did however ask me if I had seen the "documentary". Which I haven't, can't pay me to get me to watch it. It's a thing that should have never existed in the first place because the man isn't here to defend himself, let alone that if he had been alive it wouldn't have happened at all.

Out of curiosity, what is your reason for totally skipping this filth?
 
I guess he himself only admitted in the 60 minites interview in 2003 that he selept with Kiren Culkin in one bed.
But later childfriends and many adults admitted that they also slept in the same bed with Michael.
Michael should have never say this.
What he said about sharing his bed with someone in LWMJ and 60 minuites is misinterpretated from people.
He ment this in a religous giving carrying way when he to 98 percent slept on the floor when a child slept in his bed.

I hope it comes to light that the FBI videotaped his bedroom or the entrance of it.
This whould be one of the first things I whould do when I investigate Michael Jackson who is accused of childmolestation!

He and others have said they have share beds... but I have also heard him say that when others say "slept in the same bed" they make it sexual. He then pointed out that it's not and that pedophiles can hurt a child even outside of the bedroom.
I don't remember in which interview though.
 
I see Taj's position. It's true, reviewers and naysayers would immediately call it a fluff piece designed to sanitize not just Michael but all involved in the 93 situation. And that's before even hitting play on the doc. Then having family at the forefront heightens that issue the more.

So, Taj's doc would probably benefit from being an independent/fan-funded piece that doesn't shy away from the fact it's family produced. Someone somewhere (at a corporate level) needs to help with the funding though because while it's generated a respectable amount it's not enough.

I do feel the Estate should produce a separate doc or docu-series of some sort. Maybe not to drop immediately, so as to not be in the mix of LN. But for release sometime this year to thematically tie-in with the "...a decade on from his death, Michael is still reigning" narrative.

Instead of taking an approach that's a "let's knock down every claim in LN and then roll the credits" they could build their rebuttal into a doc that re-affixes the focus on MJ's creative output and lasting impact. If I were them, I'd sandwich the rebuttals into a chapter/episode/or section of the doc that ties into Michael still being afflicted by vultures even in death. Because the more I think about it, the more difficult I see it'll be for them to actively be behind a doc that's sole purpose is to knockdown everything said in LN point by point. It'll only magnify attention on LN and almost make the Estate doc a companion piece to LN (for-MJ / anti-MJ), when in reality we want it to savvily extinguish LN altogether. Something I think they can do with a little distance from the broadcast.
 
I see Taj's position. It's true, reviewers and naysayers would immediately call it a fluff piece designed to sanitize not just Michael but all involved in the 93 situation. And that's before even hitting play on the doc. Then having family at the forefront heightens that issue the more.

So, Taj's doc would probably benefit from being an independent/fan-funded piece that doesn't shy away from the fact it's family produced. Someone somewhere (at a corporate level) needs to help with the funding though because while it's generated a respectable amount it's not enough.

I do feel the Estate should produce a separate doc or docu-series of some sort. Maybe not to drop immediately, so as to not be in the mix of LN. But for release sometime this year to thematically tie-in with the "...a decade on from his death, Michael is still reigning" narrative.

Instead of taking an approach that's a "let's knock down every claim in LN and then roll the credits" they could build their rebuttal into a doc that re-affixes the focus on MJ's creative output and lasting impact. If I were them, I'd sandwich the rebuttals into a chapter/episode/or section of the doc that ties into Michael still being afflicted by vultures even in death. Because the more I think about it, the more difficult I see it'll be for them to actively be behind a doc that's sole purpose is to knockdown everything said in LN point by point. It'll only magnify attention on LN and almost make the Estate doc a companion piece to LN (for-MJ / anti-MJ), when in reality we want it to savvily extinguish LN altogether. Something I think they can do with a little distance from the broadcast.

Well, I think making this kind of documentary needs to be supported by lawyers and mens who knows about the trial. Taj haven't a big knowledge of the 3 accusations cases. That's my conclusion when I hear him talking.
 
Just saw a comment on a post by MJ Facebook page. He asked me and others if we had seen LN. He says 100‰ a child molester and monster in disguise.

That is what you get when the mainstream media ignores actual news and facts. I did give him facts and proof, but something tells me he'll just shrug it off.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4248436 said:
Just saw a comment on a post by MJ Facebook page. He asked me and others if we had seen LN. He says 100‰ a child molester and monster in disguise.

That is what you get when the mainstream media ignores actual news and facts. I did give him facts and proof, but something tells me he'll just shrug it off.

That's what you get when MJ Official social media are sleeping.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier;4248436 said:
Just saw a comment on a post by MJ Facebook page. He asked me and others if we had seen LN. He says 100‰ a child molester and monster in disguise.

That is what you get when the mainstream media ignores actual news and facts. I did give him facts and proof, but something tells me he'll just shrug it off.
All that calling MJ a Monster is wearing thin. Seem like all these people hang at the same bar just to have something to say. If they do not want to listen to facts they mind was already made up so be gone. There views do not make it right.
 
terrell;4248440 said:
All that calling MJ a Monster is wearing thin. Seem like all these people hang at the same bar just to have something to say. If they do not want to listen to facts they mind was already made up so be gone. There views do not make it right.

Agreed. But I still decided to bother with the guy. Sent him the facts and also brand new stuff like this message from Wade to Taj in 2009!!!

Check out @Zigmanfreud’s Tweet:

https://twitter.com/Zigmanfreud/status/1104902054613463040?s=09

Un.....believeable.

This situation is so big, it's bigger than a lot of things going on in this world and I just hope the rebuttal doc will cover it all. I really hope Taj has a lot of help.
 
All that calling MJ a Monster is wearing thin. Seem like all these people hang at the same bar just to have something to say. If they do not want to listen to facts they mind was already made up so be gone. There views do not make it right.

They harassing everyone in comment sections under MJ videos now, who saying anything postive about Michael or beliving he is innocent with evil insulting comments!
Its an evil lynchin mob mentality feed from the media going on!
And this mob seames to get bigger and bigger!!
Its like in the middleage!
I feel so sorry for everyone who must endure this.

I mean they could be so kind and fair and make their own comments instead of attacking and hurting others.
They don't understand what Michael ment to them and why they know he is inncent!

I hope Jordan Chandlers guilt gets heavier and heavier every day!!!
 
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Was this posted here yet? The Robson's getting their story straight (for their benefit)

Check out @DangerousIncHS’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/DangerousIncHS/status/1104904331034284032?s=09

And also more text conversations Taj had with Wade. Oh please let ALL of this get out into the open!!!!

Jussie did get exposed, completely!!!!!! It shouldn't be too hard to get this done for these liars too.

Oh it's about MJ eh, almost mission impossible it seems. We need one actual MSM journalist covering these huge, huuuuuuuge findings and facts and hope it will spread.
 
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